swampjedi

You don't need to "skill" in the wilderness. It provides better training and better money at a risk. Prayer takes away that risk. It becomes imballanced. This is a pointless statement. You could do PvP in the duel arena, or not at all for that matter if you don't like it. Imbalanced is also a judgment call. It's still PLENTY dangerous for skillers. Now, care to make an actual rebuttal?

I say if you're skulled from aggression that you don't get to use protections. Thing is, I think the wild would be empty if that happened.

I'd be happy with an XP-based requirement, say maybe for the Wise Old Man. You have to have 30,000,000 xp of wisdom to do the quest, or something. Granted, they aren't going to do this... or at least I doubt it.

This is why debates >>> rants. Thanks guys. Guess I should contribute! Loko, I've never had any luck using bind spells on people, and especially teleblock. I'm ok with that, since I have them used on me all the time when I'm runecrafting. Nadril, prayer and teleporting is great for skillers like me. If you restrict them, I'll suffer. Honestly, I think Jagex always has erred on the side of stronger defense than offense, probably for this reason.

Green mask, santa, and yellow partyhat.

When you start pulling out the "you have no life" attack, you've lost. If we're lower level than you, we're noobs. If we're higher, we have no life. All of runescape is sitting in a chair, don't ever forget that.

Would you two mind cutting down on the quote blocks? It makes this kinda hard to read. Thanks!

Being the smart person you are even you would know that jagex don't make the prices money hungry players do. They don't have a use now, greedy players will use anything to make money because they are too lazy to put any effort into skilling and raising money that way. These so called are still meant to show how long you've played for you can't even show that now and yes a lot of people care what they were brought into to game. They have no use now other than exploitation. Don't think Jagex can control prices? Do you honestly think they didn't aim construction to change the market? In the end, the exact price is player set, but the direction is set by Jagex. I'm sure you know how the price of a ranger set goes up every time more TT items are released? Greedy players too lazy to earn cash by skilling? My dear shaz, the three rares that I have came directly from skilling profits. So, I'd appreciate it if you took your gross misgeneralizations elsewhere. Let me give an example. I think you'd be offended if I said only ugly fat girls play runescape, right (Note that I don't believe this)? Same idea. Exploitation is a very strong word. Are my rares taking cash out of your pocket, or anyones? NO. Quit the drama, it has no place in a debate. PKMario, quit the freaking spam. Contribute or get out. I want to you understand that I am reporting every bit of spam, so you're just getting a bad rep with the staff. Edit: Thanks whoever DELETED his post.

Impressive! When are you planning to move on to something else?

Sorry guys, it's gonna be P2P. :|

Oh, but the wild does have rules. No teleporting after X level wild. No multi combat in single zones (a very narrow definiton of multi combat) No attacking people X+1 or -(X+1) levels from you. It just needs MORE rules, or at least better defined ones.

Gin, that's what I said. Please, if you're going to post, contribute something new or at least do more than summarize another post. Duke, I have no problem with expensive armor - my point was that it's trading one drug for another. I think, in the end, the solution that Jagex wants is much more equity in wealth distrubtion and more control over the economy. I'm saying that they don't have control currently, but that's only because they've been lax. They can take control whenever they want, and I think we're seeing the first of it now. I do know that my time of buying new rares with cash made from skilling is over. I'm going to keep what I have (at least the phat), but no more.

I give them a little more credit than this, though it's pretty sneaky. I think that they know exactly what rares mean to the game, and I know for a fact that they don't like it (see Jmod posts on new tradable holiday items). They also know that they can't make them go away - so instead, let's take cash out of the game. They also know that you can't keep rares from growing forever with a single money draining or new status symbol update - so what do they do? These big updates are spread in such a way, I feel, that they pop the rares increase before it can get started again. It's a brilliant move, if they want to get rid of rares, but I have to say that mega expensive armor isn't exactly a good solution. That's like getting an alcoholic addicted to tobacco instead of alcohol. From Jagex's point of view, it may be that they are happy with the tobacco solution, if only because it once again gives them direct control over the top of the economic system. Prices too high? Increase third age drop rates. Too low? Do the opposite. This is something Duke and I have discussed a little bit, but it's still a fledgling idea (at least on my side). Oh, and note how just a little bit of pressure in the right direction can make a dead thread show promise.

I have very little experience with the wilderness, but I would expect that the rough bits would be around the edges, especially 1 to 5. It's the shallow end, the kiddie pool, and people who are afraid to swim will congregate there. As for the teaming, that's definitely a problem. I don't think Jagex would have created multi wild if they had meant for people to team. I made a suggestion back in rants, lemme see if I can go find it. I don't particularly care for the prayer/teleport debate, as Jagex has explicitly allowed both of those in the wilderness, with exceptions.

How many pairs have you made? And are they quick to get?

Looks like Thursday is best for me anyways. :P

I don't know what the motivation is actually, just that its happening.

Jagex is going about it in a sneaky way. Construction? 3rd Age Armor? Skill Capes? All of these are targeted specifically at reducing rare values by either providing some other status symbol or directly removing cash from the game. And guess what, it's worked. Rares have been stable for 6 months, which is totally unheard-of.

I think you totally miss the idea of the purpose of rares in the game at this time, Shaz. Who cares what they were originally intended for, it's the now that matters. Jagex is doing their best to reduce the importance of rares, if you've been paying attention. Notice the 6 month flatline in prices?

I could see allowing it... 1xp : 10k gp :thumbsup:

I get angry because they instateleport/run when I come back to get them.

Looks like I'm gonna try to have the 99/1800 party FRIDAY, 12 JANUARY. I should be able to get to 1798 this weekend, then roll 75 Agility in early in the week and burn yews straight through. I will update the first post when I'm sure of the date. The time is open to debate, but I'm thing 10PM EST (GMT -5).