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whenever the route splits in two, take the route closest to the inside wall, thats what i can remember.

Do we not have one? Am i sensing another minigame guide for me to make? :lol: From what i remember its best to take the inside route which doesen't include the shortcuts.

Because of greedy merchants hoarding them and abusing the GE through "junk trades." Who the hell in the game has 200m worth of junk????? Exactly people say the g.e price is way off, the street price is even further off, before the g.e 3a ammy was under 10m, now 100m+? bring back w2 i say so we can get the prices back down to normal.

Yes but the extra defence of the shield when entering the castle and getting the flag can save you 2-3 bandages in a crowded game, and you will most likely need to use a bandage/explosive on your way to the flag freeeing up the inventory slot to take the shield when you grab the flag.

Yes but it is nice if you help every so often if a job is empty, if it stays empty you won't bet getting exp either.

=D> bravo on your first post, and welcome to the tip.it forums. thank you for doing some research on the topic i brought up. this is currently the best lead we have, considering some players actually think that examining bones will do anything (lol) as for your opinionated post, i'd have to agree that we shouldn't start assuming, however there is obviously more to this than meet the eye, or err.. ear? i doubt this has anything to do with the actual godwars dungeon but more with the godwars era (third age)- an earlier post said they had talked to many people across runescape to no avail, however, i beleive that there is another hidden update among us thank you. please hold your applause[/hide] Another one? please explain?

Ask a friend to come give you some food

How is it a cheap shot, they are a business, its good business. Also remember that its BETA, this means alot of bugs will be found and needed sending back to jagex. Is much more likely that members will find bugs and glitches and relay that back to jagex during this time than f2p players, why have f2p test the graphics if they won't help find the bugs?

Nope they stay

Yeah anything longer and i think alot less people would be willing to try.

1.Best f2p place to mine Mith - I don't think you can 2.Best p2p to mine place Mith - Mining guild imo 3.How many blue drags can I kill with 1 full crystal bow - No idea 4.How much money will I make per d-hide/Bones -No idea 5.Im not 70 but if I had 70 smith what should I smith - viewtopic.php?f=113&t=749184 6.How much money will I make if I buy a steel bar/make is into cannonballs and sell and sell the cannonballs - No idea 7. Do I get more or less xp per bar if I make c/balls - Less

Already getting quoted :thumbsup: But yeh blast furnace is quicker exp than both and you make profit so its win win.

Your overlooking that the picture your comparing too is from the video trailer. The video trailer is compressed images which are blurred and smaller, making them look better. If you saw the original model for the video it would be exactly like they are ingame.

Maybe one with donkeykong in it? :wall: anyway reported thread, should go in help and advice at least.

Ahem! As runescape becomes more populated more and more achieve these achievements, you just have to find new ones. I'll use cw tickets as an example. A year ago only 1 player had over 10k tickets. Now theres 6 people, and the first will probably be forgotten. It's how the game evolves. Unfortunately jagex arent releasing enough long-term achievement type things anymore, i doubt they'l ever release anything like chompy and cw rewards again as so many players would complain about how long they would take. Anything they release now is usually a week or two at max to do. care to name those 6 im pretty sure i know a couple with 10k+ not sure though Actually theres only 5 at the moment i made a mistake: Craigrayner, Dj Jwp, Ice Dr4g0n, Matt hockley and Brian 405, However ice has had 10k+ for over a year.

Well the past few weeks of browsing the 'Help & Advice' forum ive noticed a lack of people with any knowledge on how magnificent the blast furnace is for training smithing. Plus the old blast furnace guide is rather out-dated. As this is a guide on the BEST way to blast furnace, you'l need to be on the official blast furnace world, world 58, and have basic knowledge of the blast furnace, luckily i'll help you on th second part. First off i'l explain just why the blast furnace is so good, apart from being the fastest way to make bars up to mithril, it also requires half the coal per bar, which means you can profit aswell as getting huge exp. This is, without a doubt the best way to smith if you don't want to spend millions on gold ore, or don't want to spend months smithing cannonballs for minescule exp. Requirements to use this guide: -60+ smithing --------- To use anvils and use the furnace for free Contents: 1. Basic Blast Furnace 2. How to get the BEST Exp (+ money) 3. Rewards + Calculations 1. Basic Blast Furnace [hide=]The official world is alwys crowded, but when it is less crowded you may be required to help run it, don't worry you still get smithing exp and others, and without helping you won't get your bars. so this section will tell you how to help out if it's needed. Coke Machine: Requirement: 30 Firemaking Pick up the spade that respawns, click on the coke, then click on the furnace, short and simple. Pump: Requirement: 30 Strength Good communication is needed here as this person must take instruction from the temperature gauge reader, as if the furnace overheats the person pumping the air will take damage. Bike: Requirement: 30 Agility All that's needed here is to pedal the bike, which directly runs the conveyor belt, thus dumping ore in the furnace. Repairing: Requirement: 30 Crafting This is less of a task, more of an odd-job, just use the hammer you use to smith with to repair pipes when they break. Guage: Requirement: None All this person needs to do it read the guage and then either repair things when the display says or leave them for others. This person also needs to tell the pumper when the guage is in the green to stop before it hits the red. [/hide] 2. How to get the BEST Exp [hide=]So by now you should know how to use the blast furnace and be on the official world. This is the main part of the guide, which is short and simple. The best inventory i have found is: Money: This is to un-note coal and mithril Ores: You only need half the coal per bar here than normal smithing so for 100 bars you would need 200 coal, but its good to have a few coal spare just incase : Hammer: Essential if you are smithing items from the mithril bars to get the best exp. NOTE: Stealing creation hammers are great here, doubling your exp, but halving your profits. You can take extra hammers and exchange them for placeholders (see below) Placeholders/Buckets: I've found 4 placeholders the best amount, it makes calculating the ores in the furnace much more simple as you will put 20 in at a time. After the first load of mithril bars you can dump one bucket and use the unfinished bolt you will be making as a placeholder. Getting the Exp: Ok so now you have the inventory, basic knowledge, on world 58 and are ready to smith! Ok start off by using your noted coal on Ordan. Select Un-note 'x' and type in '20'. It will cost you 450gp for each load of 20 coal. Once the coal is in your inventory all you need to do is left click on the conveyor belt up the ramp and click 'yes' when it asks if you want to put it on there. Repeat this untill you have 200 coal in the furnace, with this much you can make 100 bars and it keeps the calculations simple, there is also a limit on the coal which will not let you put an extra inventory in once you reach 220, so 200 is a nice easy number. You can check how much coal is currently in the furnace by looking in the bar dispenser: Once 200 coal is in the furnace, un-note 20 mithril ore the same way as coal, use it on Ordan. It will cost 1620gp per 20 mithril ore. Put this in the furnace the same way as coal aswell. Now comes the trick, un-note another 20 mithril ore and stand by the conveyor belt with it, wait for your current bars to be smelted and appear in the bar dispenser, easily noticable by the hot orange liquid pouring in it. then put your next 20 mithril ore onto the conveyor. You need to wait because it won't allow more than 28 mithril ore in at a time. Now you have 20 bars smithed and 20 bars about to smith. Grab the 20 bars from the bar dispenser, if they are still molten use one of the buckets of water used as a placeholder on them to cool them. Now you should have 20 mithril bars in your inventory, go over to the anvils, through the gate, which requires 60 smithing to go through and make 200 mithril bolts from the bars using the anvils. Once that's done, use the bolts as a placeholder and go and withdraw another 20 mithril ore and put it in the furnace. Grab the bars which should by now be smelted and make more bolts out of them. Repeat this untill all of the coal is used, and then once all the coal is used, put more in and repeat the whole thing. ( I told you it was simple)[/hide] 3. Rewards + Calculations [hide=]Now i cannot calculate exp here, because i'm a slow smither, i get easily distracted, but i can say that each load of 200 coal you use to smith into bars and make bolts you will gain around 8.5k exp, how quick you gain that depends on the time, and your attention, but i know it is easily upwards of 40k exp an hour. BOLTS: I'll use the Mid G.E price as of the 24th June (i buy most of my mithril ore at minimum and get my coal from my kingdom) Cost to make each bar: 1x mithril ore = 210gp 2x Coal = 358gp Cost to un-note mithril ore = 81gp Cost to un-note 2x coal = 45gp Sum cost to make each bar: 694gp (Almost half price!) G.E Price of mithril bar: 1160gp Now this is where it may get complicated, since i wrote this guide, the price between unfinished and finished bolts has increased dramatically. G.E price of mithril bolts (unf) = 75gp G.E price of mithril bolts = 79gp As you get 10 bolts per bar that makes 750gp worth of bolts per bar while they are still unfinished The 10 feathers however will cost you 60gp onto the bolts, which means a cost of 754gp per 10 finished bolts. Total profit per bar making unfinished bolts: 56gp! Total profit per bar making finished bolts: -4gp If you wished to bank your bars and sell them you would cut your smithing exp drastically, but would make a profit of 446gp per bar. I have no idea how well unfinished bolts sell, but from other people at Blast furnace who make too many to fletch themselves i hear the market is good.[/hide] So there you go, thankyou for reading and now you can do some good smithing. P.S Tell me if my calculations are wrong, i'll quickly fix them.

Take mithril noted, cash, a hammer and coal noted to blast furnace, smelt it and make it into mithril bolts there. Blast furnace halves the coal needed, has the closest anvils to a furnace, AND is faster to smith bars than smithing normally.

Going by mercifull's post, does that mean if HD poses were subitted, no AA would be the best option.

I'm going to have to make a blast furnace guide in the next few weeks, were getting tons of qeustions about smithing and i can guarentee you its the best smithing exp without spending mills on gold ore.

I think the size of the competition needs thought. By that i mean how much is needed for the entry, i know personally if i needed to write over 10 lines or take mor than half an hour on the competition i probably wouldn't enter it. thats why something short like suggesting a new rank or a caption is good.

Even with unranked range i'd suggest you train it to 70 and range the fight caves unless you wish to spend mills each try.

Finally got it, now i never have to skip those events agin. I don't actually mind TT when doing it properly. Thanks for replies, now to update sig

Ahem! As runescape becomes more populated more and more achieve these achievements, you just have to find new ones. I'll use cw tickets as an example. A year ago only 1 player had over 10k tickets. Now theres 6 people, and the first will probably be forgotten. It's how the game evolves. Unfortunately jagex arent releasing enough long-term achievement type things anymore, i doubt they'l ever release anything like chompy and cw rewards again as so many players would complain about how long they would take. Anything they release now is usually a week or two at max to do.

Should move it backa week give people more time to find out.

Quoting the thread makers post of the 'voices' thread: 'are we just getting abit to ahead of outselfs? for all we know it could be nothing, a bit of text about evil while were in the wild nothing to new there.' All i can say is, arent you just getting ahead of yourself here? For all we know it could just be nothing, a blue cape the artist put on the picture, no new skills just a plain picture.