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For some reason i can't stand taking my whip there. Also it takes an inven space too, so your fine maging Karlis with a great mage bonus. :)

Do what you like, Laiks on holiday and Valors just moved house meaning he has limited internet access. Which means that they can;'t collect their results yet.

Wasn't a great article, but if you post constructive critisism then you may be heard. Or instead write your own article and submit it. Don'tjust flame and give no advice on how to make it better.

The editor says its about co-operation and teamwork, but at the end of the game its just about as he said getting the 50 points for zeal. The same thing was repeated in a few paragraphs too. Aiming for the 50 points isn't very 'team orientated' more selfish. Not trying to do whats best for the team but just getting the points.

When was the last time you went?

Lol, yes. Ew roon. And level 100+'s loot. Time after time i hear people talking about how they got a free whip when solmeone died at the barrows and things. But if its only rune legs then ok.

I don't reccomend pulling people from the streets to gowith you. They could loot you if you die. Take your friends i think it would be safer.

If you wish you can use the last section of my new guide, on POH and barrows, and add it in. Save you the work of writing it out if you choose to update. Link in sig.

Thats because it doesn't work if your K.Oed. Say you are 80hp,ROL will tele you when you are 8hp or less. So if your hit anywhere which brings you down to 1- 8hp you get teled.

Because Dean does massive amounts of chests per trip. I've never activley followed either of Leester or Dean around at the Barrows although have3 seen them both there. Idk how mnay chests Leester can do or indeed his method. Last time i saw him there was along time ago in dragon and ahrims.

They only die if their stupid enough to go on a laggy server. AFK or don't do things properly. It;s not hard to not die, its hard to die. 500+ runs without ever dying. Meh, did you happen to watch code lyoko's vid of how she does barrows, she almost died in it, on dharok, he hit a 25 on her, since he hits higher than that naturally at full hp she coulda died. And she is good, just saying it happens. But in over 1k runs i never died so im not complaining neither :D Nope, but i'd like too. Dharok is harmless even in tunnels. At full hp which is the only time he can hit me, he cant K.O me. As i heal to full health first anyway. Then pray, i honestly cant see why people die there. Sidesteps, food, ROL your well protected.

They only die if their stupid enough to go on a laggy server. AFK or don't do things properly. It;s not hard to not die, its hard to die. 500+ runs without ever dying.

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The only trip you commented on as perfect was the one i went on :) Rod you rock there, i'd like to go again with you somtimes. Even if i did let Rex stroll a bit :s

Nah it takes to long in the tunnels doing all that Jazz. I'd rather eat 1 lobbie or 2 and have him over with.

This is while doing it fast. You have to recharge prayer every chest if you do it with no prayer pots. True it's inefficiant in a sense, but the runes more than pays for the cost of what you use and the items you get will more than cover those costs aswell.

They call it a bug fix but it takes them ages to sort it out :roll: They just want it to become tougher.

Guide To The Barrows Using Guthan, And POH! This guide will hopefully help you learn the ways of doing the legendary Barrows with it's own Guthan set. It makes the trip more fun, exciting, andputs a kick back into barrowing.Not to mention making it more efficiant with little food needed for multiple runs. Also since the update of verac you will need more food or something to heal you with. Guthans does all this and whats more have a great defense too. This will also you how to make the best use of your POH, no more long annoying walks from the ecto or to get your prayer recharged! Sections 1. Requirments 2. What To Wear? 3. Getting There 4. The Fights - Dharok - Karlis - Verac - Torag - Guthan - Ahrim 5. The Tunnels - Healing - Chest 6. Finishing up - Houses! 7. Tips Requirments 1. Full Guthans. 2. 50+ Construction. 3. Chapel 4. Kharyrll Teleport (In your house) 5. Good Mage Armour 6.A Fairly Good Understanding and Experience Of The Barrows. 7. 55+ Slayer (For slayer dart) What To Wear? This shows what i wear using this setup. Equiped: - Guthan Helm - Ahrims Top + Bottom - God Cape - Black Vambs - Infinity Boots - Glory - Mage Book (Can Use Zammy or Guthix) - Ring Of Life (ROL) The helmet - Just for convincence and saving an inventory spot, if myou wish take ahrims hood and take out one less sara brew. Ahrims - Important for mage bonus, can be subbed with mystic if you wish. God Cape - Again magic bonuses, can sub with Obby Cape or Fire Cape. Black Vambs - Not really suggested, i hate quests (and so recipie for disaster) if you have them wear armoured gloves such as rune, dragon or 'dark' gloves. Infinity Boots - Important for mage bonus, can sub with either Mystic Boots or Wizard Boots. Glory - Furys a lot better nuff' said. If you don't wish to bring an extra 5M down there dont bother. However Fury is far better. Mage Book - Good mage bonus, can sub for Zammy book or Guthix (Sara just gives Mage defense). Ring Of Life - Important! Taking 15M+ down there can be hard if you die for some strange reason. So it's very important. Inventory: Runes - For how ever many chests you wish to run. Using slayer dart of course. Guthans - The rest of his armour for healing on in the tunnels. Dragon Hide - Legs and body will do, for range bonus when defeating Ahrim. Crystal Bow - Can be subbed with Mage Short (With Addy - Rune Arrows) or X Bow. Spade - Do i really need to say? Sheild - I use rune kite for its melee defense. Obby sheild can be taken but thats 600k more and Granite sheild is inferior to rune. In picture its a painted one. Super Restores - For Prayer and giving your stats the boost after taking a Sara Brew. Sara Brews - Heal nearly 50hp per pot, and so are better than sharks. You won't use this many but its nice to have. Food - Lobbies at least. Veracs tougher so if you no pray him your going to eat. Getting There Since your supposed to have a decent understanding of the barrows and have visited before i'd think you know how to get there. So i won't waste your time. Basicallyhop on the boaty. The Fights - Dharok BAsically dig, pray and kill. With a good mage bonus he's the easiest brother. He can't hit through prayer. However if your out of prayer your cutting it very fine. He becomes the hardest brother being able to hit nicley over and over and very high. So watch out. If you do with to fight him with no prayer use the sidesteps. - Karlis Now this is where a great mage bonus is really visable! You should with prayer be able to take him down very fast. If you choose to no pray him which isn't reccomended switch to guthans and take a whip or dds and kill him like that. Outfit Change! - Now get into your Guthan Plate, legs and take out your sheild. (Even if you have prayer left!) - Verac Now Verac hits through prayer use the rest of prayer left over from Karlis on Verac. Get into the above position, the blue circle shows where you are safe, the red where you will go to attack him and are not safe. Always have your mouse in the bluse circle so if Veracs owning you, you can quickly move and eat without being hit. - Torag Again this shows the safe spots, dont bother praying even though he can hit hard and constant on rare occassions. Have your pointer on the blue circle to heal when you have too. - Guthan Since Guthan was my tunnel brother i didnt have to fight him yet. This still shows the safe sidestep spot which again you should utilise. He rarley hits and is the weakest of the brothers. Enjoy shoving his armour in his own face as he falls. Outfit Change! Now switch to your range outfit. - Ahrim He has the ability to lower your strength so always leave him till' last if you are meleeing Karlis. He's easy enough but prayer is advised because he's more accurate then he used to be. Hits constantly high (15+) Tunnels - Healing Now take out your spear and kill a few monster that lurk. I find bloodworms the best for leeching off. Do this till' full hp then go after your brother. Kill him in the appropriate way as suggested above. Remember when goign through doors they can spawn, and do this in multiples! If you find yourself over powered run too the ladder climb up and come back down. You will have to search for your brother again but this time you will be more prepared. Remember your route to the chest if you wish to do multiple runs. - Chest If he hasn't yet appeared he will be here. Do away with him then search your chest and either tele out (not reccomended) or go back up the ladder for another go. This will cost pots but save time. If you choose to do multiple runs remember to bring enough pots, runes, arrows and such to do them. Finishing Up When you have done all this, and decide your running low and better tele after the chest click on yuor tele tab. This will take you home! Now to use your house for all it cost! Simply go to your alter and pray. Then to the portal room and Tele back to Canfis. Now your back in the pub, steps away from the bank and ready to restock and go in for more! Tips For the Canfis teleport you need to install a portal room and have 100X the rune required for the average teleport. Thats100 bloods and 200 laws. Pretty good considering its infinite uses! The alter is a BIG time saver no more teleing to cammy to charge your prayer its neatly here next to your portal. Guthans makes this much cheaper. It combines the good defense of torag and an unlimited food source. So theoretically you could stay there forever. Mage bonus is very important, no more splashing spells on Karlis! Always remember the Tele Home Tab is a ONE CLICK teleport so if your in trouble just click it! Your bringing a lot down here so double check you have everything to avoid sticky situations. If you do not have Guthan, then you will need more food, less pots. So i reccomend sharks or sara brews for making your trips as long as possible. Remember this method can be used not just for Guthans. Simply skip the healing part and play armour with your inventory to get round the fact your unable to leech.

6 seems to be the best at getting an item atm. Just to let you know. Not offical though yet.

Update to deal with the Verac prayer thing. I'll do a little more on it later.

Get your orayer, range and mage up. Aswell as defense.

In Leesters guide: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=331159

http://maddox.xmission.com/ You sound like him. Anyway, this thread is intresting and i quote: Keep it up, even though i may not agree with all you say ;)

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