Poopingman

I frankly don't mind having a different opinion on what's a better motivator and it's perfectly acceptable that you consider easy skills as better motivators (even if I disagree). However the definition of a word is not a subject to debate and I cannot believe that you STILL do not know what the damn word "profitable" means. I honestly don't think that the name poopingman can be sullied over a trivial debate :roll: . As far as I'm concerned however, your reputation just got broken when you blatantly ignored and insisted on debating the definition of a word and then just used some lame evasive tactic. Personal insults will get you nowhere against me, and I don't call that much of a rebuttal, since when were we debating about the definition of a word? Ditch this.

:lol: Wow, I've heard my share of evasion tactics, but that's a new one on me. If you think you're right, defend your argument. Don't just go "oh, uh, that's your opinion, er... ya, it's just an opinion, and because I say so, without defending myself, it's just as valuable as mine". That's not how a debate works, and it's completely incorrect considering the fact that one of you (Solidus) is right, since this isn't a subjective matter. Now, tell us, how does a skill offering less profit than another make it harder to train? If you think your opinion has any weight to it at all, you must have at least one rebuttal point for God's sake. Maybe because I grow weary of bickering about fickle topics with you people. We obviously have differing views on the term "easy", as this seems to be the root of the matter. You guys appear to be isolating the skill-training from the actual profit received from it, resulting in no difference in ease no matter how much profit is made from a skill (your theory). I, however, am looking at the skill from a wider perspective (apparently thats eviiiiiiiil), taking into account other outside factors (i.e. profit) that help motivate players to train skills longer and harder. In my eyes, thats considered easier, to you guys, its not. What I'm not going to do is have my good name sullied over such trivial debates, so theres my unequivocal conclusion to this matter.

Perhaps you think i'm insulting your intelligence because you're not responding to my points directly, you're just restating things over and over. Frankly I don't think I really did insult you but hey, whatever. If a skill makes more profit then it is easier to train? that doesn't even make sense. "easier to train" is not an explanation of what makes a skill "profitable" so you cannot make that statement. profitable means you get money from the skill (example: Abyssal rcing is very profitable because you can get a lot of money), it does NOT mean that the skill is easy to train, the term for that is called "easy". Profitable implies that the method somehow gains you cash. Cooking is NOT profitable because you lose money. It's not easy for that reason, it's easy for other reasons. Furthermore, you claim that easy skills have higher motivations because they gain levels fast? Not really. The overall achievement is fairly weak and thus the only motivation is getting a cape. Having 99 in a hard skill serves as a much better motivator than having 99 in a weak skill like cooking. All this is my personal view. Different people are motivated by different things so they will find cooking has sufficient motivation. However, none of this has anything to do with profit! Agility has fewer capes not because it's "unprofitable" (which is totally irrelevant since you don't even get cash from it) but because it's harder to train. Go look up a definition of "profitable" or at least explain how you could possibly think that "profitable" means "easy to train". Exactly thats your opinion, and this is mine. Neither are wrong because the lines are obviously crossed.

Cannons are extremely annoying, for the record. Black Demons come to mind.

haha yeah good ol' days. Those alternative bands (and creed) were pretty popular.

Obviously you have no idea what "profitable" means. It has to do with the money you get. If you spend 6 mill and get 4 mill back, your overall profit is -2mill that means you're LOSING money therefore it is NOT profitable. Profit is not the only reason why someone would continue a skill, so do not assume "oh people do continue training cooking therefore it must be profitable". People train cooking because the exp rates are very high and the mere fact that there is a return. Exp rates have nothing to do with profit. How dare you insult my intelligence? If a skill makes more profit, it is easier to train, you have more motivation to keep going for extended periods of time. To solidify this statement, take agility for example. For the most part, people dislike it ,and say its boring. There are dramatically fewer skill capes to boot. I wonder why...

Cooking isn't profitable, raw are considerably more than their cooked counterparts. OT: It's because like everyone said, there common and people are like 'meh, be more original' And imo both are very very ugly. Its still profitable, considering how little work has to be done on the cooking end of the spectrum. Not that fishing is much harder... easier is not the same as profitable. If you lose money it's not profitable and the fact that it has generous exp/hour rates makes it easy. But they are, if something is profitable, you will be more likely to continue training it, thus making it easier to attain a higher level.

what is easy? ye hp is hardest but i was talking only about atack,str,defence. Strength...did you not read what I quoted?

Cooking isn't profitable, raw are considerably more than their cooked counterparts. OT: It's because like everyone said, there common and people are like 'meh, be more original' And imo both are very very ugly. Its still profitable, considering how little work has to be done on the cooking end of the spectrum. Not that fishing is much harder...

Factoring all skills, its still extremely easy. And HP is the hardest combat-related skill.

You mean Draynor? :?

Its still quite a challenge. But Fletching and Cooking are skills that are extremely profitable, all the way to 99 (unlike combat skills, for example, which taper off). They are, for sure, two of the less respected skill capes.

I assume the downward trend will continue.

They aren't that hard to get, thats why thousands of people (many of them immature kids) have capes.) Especially the woodcutting/fletching/strength ones.

They both lie

Well we record entirely ourselves, and we don't have very good equipment. It was a struggle to get it to sound this good, believe me! haha

Some of the doors actually won't open. Don't fret, its keeping you from going the wrong way. When I get this random, before I click the dialogue box off and start, I take a good look of my immediate surroundings and try to plan a bit. The maze can yield some great rewards...

I think people are finally getting sick of it. Rap had its time to shine. I grew up during the huge boom after the turn of the century, Lil' Jon and all those super-popular rap groups are legendary, as much as you may hate them. But its part of our generation, no matter what you may think of it. The problem is, rap isn't evolving at all, still talking about the same topics....running out of ideas....its just not like it was 5 years ago when these ideas were still rather fresh, its over.

I feel this is justified. I am totally for random events, they really help keep abusers in check, and help break up the monotony sometimes. More times than I would like to count, however, I've had random events occur in the middle of combat! Its impossible to talk to a complaining Dr. Jekyll when fending off a black demon, and ultimately, he changes and starts attacking you, doubling the danger for no legitimate reason. Frustrating.

I just choose whichever one is "best for me" according to the Runescape page. Usually 58.

Got banned...twice. That was a long time ago, though. Nowadays I think they've come to accept my blunt ways :P

I cover a lot of bases..one day I might be metal, the next, preppy. I kind of deviate between those two.

Nice music tastes...Kalmah is our biggest influence.

Ok then, hes good, but still extremely overrated.

Die.