ThurinEthir

I just found out, I might be busy March 24th. :( I'll do my best to make at least part of the rally though. I hope to hopefully see you all there.

I suppose...But couldn't the autoers just store up like 50 rune axes in their banks? Then automatically go to a bank and withdraw it after they die or whatever? It'll only take a few minutes...And it won't get rid of autoers for good. But yes, it'll slow them down. Slightly. Skillers won't be harmed in this suggestion, but many past suggestions affected skillers badly.

Then there wouldn't be a point in the "Cancel" button. :roll:

I never said it was perfect, and any slowing down is good enough for me(it is a start)...and how many new players will you see cutting yews?And thats why I said type in answers as a possibility as well. Okay... 1. Make really easy questions about math or something. Since not everyone speaks English well, there can't be any spelling related questions, or any anagrams as people may not know what those are. Therefore, Arabic numerals are pretty much the only universal language...Everyone playing RuneScape ought to know 2+2=? 2. You said slowing down is enough. This slows down regular players too. Do you want to sacrifice those seconds you could save just to slightly slow down some autoers? And say an autoer creates 10 accounts. The number of autoers that will get in based on probabilities is 5. The other 5 return after death. This time, 2-3 get in. The ones that don't return. This repeats until all the autoers are in. SOME of the autoers have just lost a few minutes. Not going to do much. And the sacrifices always suggested to slow down autoers are new players and skillers. New players are important, without them the number of players go down, as people quit. Skillers are players too, and aren't always secondary accounts. Some people have them as main accounts. There's nothing unimportant you can sacrifice to stop autoers, except for the time that could be spent reporting them.

Fairly good. There are three bad things I can think of right now... 1. New players. They don't know much about RuneScape. They won't be able to answer those questions. 2. Chance. Autoers might be programmed to randomly select answers. The chance of getting two or three wrong is 4/8. 1/2. Half the time, the autoer will go free. So it'll only eliminate half the autoers. 3. Aftermath. The autoer dies, loses nothing except for the axe or whatever it was using. Then it can buy another one (Or the person that created the account mules one over from his main account) and continue autoing. Not much was done, other than somewhat slow done the macroers.

Obviously the P-Mods, and any J-Mod that comes ought to be in control. Prankster obviously deserves some control as well (Him being the leader). I guess Devnull, Tetsuya, Bufo and I could be co-leaders or something. And Tetsuya...I have a suggestion that's an extension to more F2P bank space that would help you. We've all heard it before (I hope). It's the special storage for items when your membership ends. To keep people from abusing this and storing all times in there, it can only be accessed on member worlds, and a payment is requirement (I'm thinking 100K, possibly more...). 100K IS a lot for some storage space, but it should be worth it. Goof luck to you, Tetsuya, on somehow doing anything with that bank.

To be honest Prankster, I think you're too optimistic. And I'm too pessimistic. :lol: Tell me...Through those clouds of spam, do you think the spammers would see the warnings? Mods need to be tough, and should be lenient at times, but there are times they shouldn't. From past experience (Of going to especially popular TET Events and other similar rallies) I know what to expect. People WILL spam. Obviously, supporters who've posted here probably won't, but other people will. From what people have said so far, we've got quite a few friends and clan members coming (If you invite anyone, make sure they know the rules. Hopefully they follow them, but there's less of a guarantee of that then of posters) and probably some flamers, as you've seen a lot of people who strongly disagree with this and will spam/flame in this thread. If they'll spam/flame in this thread, what stops them from doing that at the rally? Unless you have a lot of black marks, you won't get permanently banned (I don't think), so you won't lose your account permanently. No harm, right? (Obviously, there is...But perhaps they won't think of them.) Who knows. I can't tell the future. Maybe we'll be lucky and there'll be no spammers at all. Maybe not.

What I'm expecting at the rally: -50-100 (Or More) Serious Ralliers -100-200 Other People, maybe friends, clan members, etc. (These people will help attract attention, but possibly not help us too greatly) -20 Party-Poopers. Party-Crashers. Meaning members who despise this thread, and will attempt to destroy our rally. What'll Probably Happen: Us serious ralliers will gather earlier than most people arrive. We will start attracting attention, some people will probably start noticing. Since this is a F2P world, some may also join in. Everyone else arrives. We get a few mods to help control the crowd. Mass spamming starts. Chaos erupts. The screen is covered in white. Mods don't know what to do. They mute everyone they can, although I hope some of us will be trying to keep it down as well. We will attract attention (Good), but we will suffer some consequences. (Bad) I don't know what those consequences will be. But I have a rather bad feeling that something is going to happen. I agree on videotaping the rally. My recording system is screwed up, but hopefully someone else can record the whole thing, and possibly put it on Youtube. Maybe some Youtubians will also find out and join us. :D

W00T! Yay! We are 1337 now! And it seems like 1000 posts wasn't too long ago...This thread is growing FAST! And not too many non-supporters either. My new reaction list to people's reactions to this thread.... =D> \ :thumbsup: To all the supporters. =D> -.- To all the more friendly non-supporters, who share their opinion and allow us to voice ours without arguing or flaming. :shame: =; :notalk: :-# :twisted: :roll: To all the flamers/spammers. See you at the rally! (Is it just me, or is this new quote thingy kind of annoying/strange?)

I've been away for a few days...So I had some reading to do... I don't want to be mean, but good riddance! Holierthanu was warned a few times, and possibly even flamed a few mods. I'm not going to continue, or I might end up being the one temporarily banned. Prankster...The people who flame glance at the title or the first few lines, and then flame. Put the most important things at the top. Especially things that have to do with flamers/spammers. Albosky...You must know we have no control over the flamers. Only what happens after they flame. (Meaning if someone flames this thread, it won't be our fault.) I'm tired of them myself, and I'm starting to ignore them. Hopefully we don't get any hyperactive supporters that decide to argue back and get this thread deleted. But yeah...Prankster, make this clear in the first post. Flamers/spammers will be ignored, and may suffer consequences. Also tell our supporters that you and the mods are the only people to handle situations with flamers. All the other supporters...Glad you support.

OMG, is it a problem to not spam and to actually read Prankster's post? :wall: =; :notalk: ZOMGWTF is is a problem for you not to flame an opinion? Hypocrite. You flame our opinion, then you tell us that we're flaming your opinion? And for the sake of stupidness... ZOMGWTFWTHROFLOLMAO!

OMG, is it a problem to not spam and to actually read Prankster's post? :wall: =; :notalk:

Elaborate on why? And uh...Yeah...My parents pay for my membership. I don't have a job (Not old enough), no allowance (Since Chinese parents tend to not give allowances...?) nor any spare Chinese New Year money (My parents insist on saving that for college :wall: ) They paid for my membership right before my birthday, so I took it as a present. Is there something wrong with getting presents?

The longer you have membership, the worse the problem will be. Since you'd have more time to collect more items...Meaning more items to get rid of... Unorclan...That was...Thoughtful... :-k And Prankster, that's why I don't flame. I don't lose arguments. :P

Now THAT is just flaming. I'm not even going to respond. =;

So they don't deserve ANY updates at all then. No SoS, no holiday updates, no new prayers. So why did they get those? i merely said they dont deserve more bank space. i ran out fo space, then i decided to get members. problem solved. i can't help it if you noobs are going to complain over something as trivial as bank space 1. At least try to find out that I'm a member. 2. So...F2P deserve new dungeons, new prayers, a new bank, but NOT bank space? Is it just me, or does that seem wrong? 3. Most people don't become members when they run out of bank space. Most people don't think about the bank space when becoming members. Apparently you aren't one of those "most".

So they don't deserve ANY updates at all then. No SoS, no holiday updates, no new prayers. So why did they get those?

Well, like you said earlier on about my Duke Horacio thing, people could make the account, do the random event and then leave the bot to it. However, thanks for thinking of that. Oh yeah...I sometimes forget what I say. I just have to say...Autoers could come up with a program to do tutorial island automatically. Maybe do it in 15 minutes. So...There are two ways to look at it... 1. This automatic random event would happen before an autoer can auto through tutorial island, but it may be quick enough for the autoer to do it by hand. If not, autoers will just auto through tutorial island. Everyone is affected positively. 2. The automatic random event would happen after a period of time longer than an autoer can auto through tutorial island. Therefore, regular players are not affected badly (I don't think) while autoers are not affected at all. I think 2 would be better. Sometime within the first hour after creation this random event would happen. This wouldn't stop autoers, but it wouldn't increase them either. And you could still skip tutorial island, and maybe even collect some items/coins to get you started off.

Now THAT is better...If the random event is random (Meaning the one you get is different each time...Usually...) and the place you get teleported to afterwards is different, it should throw the autoers off. Hopefully they don't somehow find a way around this... Actually...Can I offer a different suggestion? It's only a slight modification to what you said, but how about if you choose to go through tutorial island, you go to tutorial island, and if you choose to skip tutorial island, you start off at the random event.

Make sure that they aren't coming to see the J-Mod or to hang out with you, but to help us. But still...Get them to come. :D And wow...A J-Mod. *Gets screenshot thingy ready*

If you mean that when you go on a F2P world with ancients set, it automatically changes to the normal spellbook, that's a good idea. I don't have ancients, but my friend does...And he always complains about this.

At least you considered ways to prevent it. I probably couldn't have come up with any...But I still see some flaws. 1. Autoers usually run away when they get attacked. They'll be out of range before the chicken does enough damage. 2. Those 15 minutes could be 15 minutes spent on tutorial island. Autpers can probably be programmed to do tutorial island on their own, and that would be quicker than this. If they chose to skip tutorial island, the player could just guide the autoer to Duke Horacio on his own, and then afterwards, send it off. If they're going to macro, they take multi-log-in as barely anything. At least you tried.

Thats not true. It's kind of true. You can type stuff. You can hit enter. The words will appear above you. But no one else can see it. Therefore, you can spam your head off and no one will know. This wouldn't have a downside, except possibly mass spamming on tutorial island, which could be prevented by teaching newcomers about the rules earlier. I support.

And the house portal has kicked up activity in Rimmington by a lot. This isn't needed, but I remember a suggestion a long time ago, I think before construction came out, that was for a quest based in Rimmington. It was actually pretty good... EDIT: Because I was really bored, I found it. Page 34. By Free_Steel1, I believe. April 25th...? (It was a P2P suggestion...) DO NOT BUMP IT.

If they log into their main account first and then the person gets banned for macroing then their main account that they used gets banned anyway! They can make their main account clean, and train it. Whatever requirements this "main account" must have in order to skip tutorial island must be impossibly high, or else macroers can still get around it.