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I never said it wasn't. Yeah I know, I'm just saying. We should pretty much be our own continent. =; Now that's going to far. America isn't that great. Yes, yes it is. We > All. That's why we can look you square in the eye and say "We like our system. Convert it, snob." and you do it. :P Yemin also does not use metric as far as I know of...Unless it's changed in the past 5 years or so.

That article is speculation, covered in a thin coat of religious bias. I read it...Did it come from some religious site of some sort? I would bet it did. If it did not, then I would like to know what site it came from so I can see how much they actually know about science, which seems to be not very much. Carbon dating is accepted as scientific fact. That's the end of that right there. It isn't a theory, it isn't debated, it is used as fact. A scientific fact, in our world, is just that: a fact. In yours, it is "speculation" because you believe what a book tells you. I'm off to write my own book so everyone can believe what I say. (Or, you know, I'm going out to eat...same thing. :lol:)

Believing that the Earth is 10,000-12,000 years old alone in a religious sense might as well just debunk it entirely. It is a proven fact that the world is much, much older than 12,000 years. Like I said, if you don't trust carbon-dating, a proven science, then you are a fool. I could probably find something older than 12,000 years old digging in my own backyard. I once found a 200-some-odd year old gun a mere 10 or so inches below the grass in my backyard...Granted, 200 years isn't 12,000 years, but you get the point. Dig far enough and find something, it'll be over 12,000 years old. There are so many things wrong with even thinking that...I wouldn't know where to begin. Even the oil you put in your car everyday is older than that. Sheesh. I've even personally TOUCHED something older than that! South Dakota Mammoth Caves ftw. Infact, I do own a bottle of sediment from the same time period...Could very well itself be over 12,000 years old. I'm curious, would you have us believe that somehow Carbon-Dating is false, and that mammoths and what not were walking around, like...3,000 years ago? 1,000? What? It doesn't make sense. Period. I think if you rolled everything back in terms of how old it was, those mammoth bones would probably be like, 10 years old in those terms. :lol: I mean, they've found things MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of years old...Mammoth bones are just a fraction of that, so if you cut everything into a fraction to fit your 12,000 year time-line...Then yea, I guess I better go feed my pet mammoth. Yes, I generalize Christians because I see most of them as the same. It's usually Evangelics, but whatever. I don't see myself as "uninformed" on religion. I see myself as not giving a damn about what it's saying, because it's impossible to take literally. I believe the Bible was written as an inspiring bunch of stories (even some of your priests and what not say that) to help you live life and treat others with respect. Afterall, if it wasn't for the Bible, there would be no morals. I'm sure cavemen had no problem killing eachother over food, providing they weren't some sort of family/friend to them. Sex ed in kindergarden would be dumb, because they don't understand, but they do need to know about it early on in life. I learned in 4th grade, I think. Kids are having sex and getting pregnant at much earlier ages, thus the want for teaching it earlier. Sexual curiousity begins very early in life, and if they don't know the consequences, they'll just do it. 4th grade is a pretty good time to start. It's the time I can remember actually thinking school was becoming work. 3rd grade and down was just day-care. And we don't have a point in the Universe. No matter how we were put here, we're alone on the planet with nothing to do but stay alive and die. If you believe in God, you may go to Heaven or whatever, and if you don't, then you'll just die. Even going to Heaven doesn't make you have a purpose. Noone knows the meaning of life because there is no meaning. We're either an experiment or a freak accident in nature.

Because they teach evoltion as fact at alot of schools. And if it isn't true why should we be forced to learn it? Please try to stay on topic.. :roll: well, they were trying to get the THEORY of godly world creation taught in schools and thats abviously not true :roll: so they should teach the more logical one because its definitly more right. I can see it now, talking about gods from heaven and the bible in biology class :lol: Thats just great. Instead lets talk about how lizards evolved wings and became birds. How come evolution is only limited to our planet? Some mamals can hold their for extreme amounts of time. Why dosn't a whale grow wings and fly into space? Why arn't there space animals? I'm sure natural selection can find a way to get animals in space if they can evolve from a single cell into complex orginisms. So I guess that kind of messes up the idea of evolution huh? Now you're just being a moron on purpose, it seems. May I ask how old you are, and why you feel the need to be a spokesperson for your religion? I think they should find a new one, because you sound rediculous. We, being all the creatures on the planet, every single one, is a carbon-based, oxygen-breathing life form. We need oxygen to survive. Why does a whale not grow wings and fly into space? Well, for one, their enviroment does not call for the need of wings, thus they've never evolved to develope them. Secondly, you can't fly into space, you dolt. Once you get so far into the atmosphere, your lungs would collapse and you would die from atmospheric pressure. Thirdly, there are no space creatures because, as carbon-based, oxygen-breathing life forms, WE NEED OXYGEN TO BREATHE. Guess what, genius? No Oxygen in space! Put down the Bible, pick up a friggin' science book. At least some religious people have VALID arguments, not completely butt-spewed crap.

Because they teach evoltion as fact at alot of schools. And if it isn't true why should we be forced to learn it? Please try to stay on topic.. :roll: They teach it as science. That's what it is. You cannot teach religion in school because it is forbidden to force your views upon people. By teaching evolution, we are not teaching FACT, we are teaching science. If you don't like it, fail biology in protest. :roll: You are assuming that evolution is science. Besides, by teaching religion in school, you are not forcing your views. It's like saying teaching the Civil War never happened is forcing your views. You're just presenting the views. True, your bias will bleed through but that is irrelevant and cannot be stopped. And your comment of "if you don't like it, fail biology" is ridiculous. If you are an atheist taking a theology course as your required philosophy/theology course, then fail the course! That's rubbish. Thirdly, if evolution and the fossil record actually coincide, then how come we don't have all kinds of odd-shaped animals (i.e. the majority of them). Because of mutations, we should have eyes on feet and arms coming out of the head but we don't. We have some strange looking animals, but a few of them is HARDLY proof for evolution. Actually, the fossil record REFUTES evolution. Care to see Behe's argument for Irreducible Complexity? Finding a life form with eyes on it's feet and arms coming out of it's head would actually work more towards disproving evolution. How you see it as the other way around is beyond me. Almost every creature on this earth has two eyes, 4 extremities, sexual organs in the same general area, etc etc etc. I would love to know how, in your mind, that disproves evolution. If you can honestly make me understand that logic, I will convert to any religion you wish and spend my life in a monistary or something, because that crap just does NOT make sense. As for the failing biology thing - It's true. If you don't like that they're not teaching YOUR beliefs, then fail in protest. Sure, it will do no good, but at least you'll have your peace of mind, right? Right. Teaching religion in school is absolutely pushing your views on us. Religion is an extremist view, no matter what anyone says. They are views that people are converted into with absolutely no need for proof. Science is exactly the opposite...We are all born into it and they study, prove and disprove theories and try to find out how we came to be and how we work. Sure, evolution is a theory, but it isn't a bad one. Could it have flaws? Yep, sure. But could religion have even MORE? Yep, and everyone, even religious people, know that. You indirectly say it just by picking and choosing which parts of the Bible to follow. If you claim to follow the whole thing, then I hope you're going to stone your neighbor tomorrow if you find out she's adulterous. Why is everyone even arguing with these people? They are RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS. You will NEVER WIN. They are brain-washed and will NEVER open their eyes to ANYTHING but what they've been told their whole life. We could difinatively prove evolution and disprove God on the same day and they'd still be like, "Well, the Bible says..."! They're not listening to you. At all.

Because they teach evoltion as fact at alot of schools. And if it isn't true why should we be forced to learn it? Please try to stay on topic.. :roll: They teach it as science. That's what it is. You cannot teach religion in school because it is forbidden to force your views upon people. By teaching evolution, we are not teaching FACT, we are teaching science. If you don't like it, fail biology in protest. :roll:

Many animals are similar? Excuse me? That's ridiculous. We're both human both we obviously differ a lot. And the difference between a fish and a lion is pretty obvious, I'd say. I don't quite understand what you mean with nothing comes close to us human beings, but I guess you mean no other creatures are so intelligent? Well, we evolved in a record speed. It took us about 50,000 years to evolve from cavemen into what we are now. It takes another creature 50,000 years to evolve one single harmless little thing. If there would only be a few thousand humans that would not meddle with nature too much, eventually, after millions of years, another intelligent race would erupt, of that I'm sure. edit: if you think carbon dating is influenced from outer space, you're obviously one of the ignorant people that do not care about whatever scientific explanation we give, you prefer staying in your religious shell. I'm not going to bother too much then. You missed the point, where are the cavemen? If you implying 'cavemen' had the intelligence of a animal why didn't animals wear fur and create fire? Utensils anyone? How are cavemen anyone different then we are now? I don't see any evalution. We are cavemen... I don't think carbon dating is influenced from outer space, but it is obviously more plausible then evalution. Who is to say space didn't effect our carbon? Space didn't effect our carbon. There, I said it. You can't just shove carbon from outer space into the same carbon in a fossil. You just can't. It doesn't work that way. This is molecular level stuff happening, it isn't a scientist finding moon-dust on top of a fossil and testing it, 'kay? Even so...If you were to believe that the Earth was only 6,000 years old, you would have to believe that the Universe itself was just as old, thus completely making your "space carbon" theory bunk. OR, you can still believe the space carbon thing, but you would mean you do not believe in God creating the actual Universe. Choice is yours! I think we know what you'll pick...I can already see you getting up from your computer chair and running to hide under the bed with your Bible to psycho-analyze everything it says. The Bible was written by man to keep people in line and to teach them life lessons. Do you honestly think a God would be a sexist moron? The Bible is filled with "men > women" crap, obviously written by a man of the time who wanted their women to sit down and shut up. But of course, decency doesn't allow you to believe that sort of stuff anymore, so followers pick and choose what they believe out of the Bible. If you truely were a follower of the Bible, you'd believe everything it says, meaning that if you know some adulterous woman, you need to go throw some heavy rocks at her RIGHT NOW until she dies. Because that's what "God" wants. Give me a break. Evolution is infinately more plausable, and anyone without a religious fork being fed to their mouth can see that. Hell, there is even starting to be definative PROOF of the subject. Darwin studied bird's on the Galapagos Island's for years and he noted that their beaks were adapting to the type of nut they had to eat. Before, they had to eat a realatively easy to get into type of nut, but now, for whatever reason (no clue there) they are forced to eat a harder nut, thus their beaks are now harder and more pointed. This is over however many years they've been researching the bird, which isn't very many...I think 100 or less, but I'm not sure, look it up if you want. There definately could be a God, but everything we know as religion today is a complete and utter lie. The evil are rewarded just by saying they're "good" and the good are punished because they didn't know of God? Whatever. Almost every single religious person is breaking the very fundamentals of their religions and they still expect that God will just forgive and forget, yet all of us who didn't follow God (some couldn't, period, mind you...) are going to burn eternally. A Catholic can go rape a little boy and he's forgiven, a Christian can sleep with prostitutes and be forgiven, and Christian can steal money from people to make their pockets bigger and be forgiven, but someone who never knew of God can't be forgiven? Again, a huuuuge "Whatever." here. Like I said before, I cannot wait until we discover life elsewhere. Religion will be obliterated, or they will make up more lies to cover their [wagon] like they do today. At least I can look forward to laughing when Christians everywhere start setting up another Crusade to go convert these alien life forms, and if they refuse, they will slaughter them. :lol: Oh man, hypocrisy rules. I love God, he forgives all the horrible stuff, but will make you charcoal for the smallest things! AWESOME LEADER!

*Shakes head*. I honestly thought Pianofreak was smarter than he is making himself out to be. First he says Jesus created the Universe in 7 days, then he says that all creatures looking similar in structure disproves evolution. *Sigh*. I almost do not even know how to comment. First off, no, Jesus is not God, so saying that they're somehow the same being is not going to work here. Christian's have completely forgotten one of the 10 commandments, being not to worship false idols, i.e. anyone but God/Yahweh/Jehova/whatever-you-call-said-deity. They make up some random crap about the Father, Son and Holy Spirit being one..thing..so they can say Jesus is their lord. Whatever...Your lord is GOD. Jesus was merely a pawn God needed to use to cleanse you of your horrible sins which you haven't stopped commiting...That is, assuming any of this is true at all, which it probably isn't. And by probably, I mean "most likely". People read too far into religion. They mistake a book written to keep people in line and teach them life lessons for some kind of...literal history book. I'm sorry, but all the promises of Heaven in the universe will not make that so. It's a BOOK written by a King's scribes 2,000-ish years ago. Honestly now. I'm supposed to follow, word for word, in a literal sense, something that a 2,000 year old book says, as opposed to what billions of years of science is telling us? Science, which, mind you, can be proven, or has been already? No thanks, guys! I'm sure the Bible is a great read and all, and when you're done, maybe you'll even have learned something, but it's nothing more than that. You're not going to burn in some eternal flame for not reading a book and bowing down. If we were going to burn, almost everyone on the freakin' planet would be burning, and mind you, most of these are the decent, kind-hearted, great all-around people, as opposed to Christians, who steal your money selling you $100 Bible's and $500 clocks (no joke, watch tv sometime, I'm not kidding) calling it "donating", not to mention the millions they steal via "Feed the Children Fund"...Or Muslims (not all) who blow people up randomly...These people will be rewarded for being GOOD? 'Kay. If you say so. If you were not so blinded by your up-bringing, you'd be able to see that you're brain-washed...Will you ever realize? No, you will not, because you fear your loving God will burn you eternally if you stray. Well, that's nice of him, huh. I've come to accept, even if there is a God, that he doesn't look after me, and he never will. I have looked to the sky and given "God" the finger before just to spite him. Why? Because he's never done a damn thing for anyone. NOONE. The only people who claim to have been helped by him are Christians getting rich by saying they've been helped by him. That's it. Noone else. Not a starving baby, not a homeless man, not a prisoner, not a civilian in a war-torn country, and surely not a teenager suffering from more medical problems than you could imagine. Refering to myself, of course, but countless others could go into that catagory. Believe what you will, but keep it to yourself. You are the reason people kill eachother. You are the reason EVERYONE is angry. You are the reason for every war EVER fought. You are the reason people fight in general. The least you could do is kill eachother and save us rational people the time and effort. Prove me wrong. Prove you're not the problem, that you are infact, somehow, the solution. I don't want to down people's religions, but christ, how dense can one person be? The world is 6,000 years old? The grand canyon was created via the "Great Flood"? Ugh. I cannot even fathom the idiocy it takes to believe this. If the world was 6,000 years old, period, end of story, then the Egyptians would have been some of like...the first people. For some reason, though, they felt the need to worship God's noone even knows the names of anymore? Oh, but wait, the Pyramids are probably 12 years old and carbon dating is a Neo-Nazi scam or something. I want to bash my head into a wall now. Just thinking of the idiots out there teaching their CHILDREN this stuff angers me. They should all be jailed for abuse. Edit: I can't wait until we find life on some other planet in some other solar system. It may not even be in my lifetime, but it will completely toss religion for a loop. I don't recall the Bible ever saying anything about other life forms anywhere but Earth, so it'll be quite the "HOLY CRAP!" day at the Vatican. I can see it now, though...News headlines everywhere..."Catholics discover a NEW new testiment buried beneathe 6,000 year old rubble of Adam and Eve's original hut! They are claiming it speaks of God creating life on an infinate number of planets! Hooray! Religion is SAVED!" and in small-print "Carbon-dating was used to discover the age of the ancient text, however, the Vatican is still calling Carbon dating a "Nazi insturment of death." Oh man. I can't wait to see the gullible goldfish that buy into that. It's like the Mormon religion all over again.

How many kids have you heard say "video games are *anything negative*"? :P

Piano lessons make reading drum music easier. When I first started playing in band, my friend had taken piano lessons and I never had, so he was already way ahead of me and got the be the main drummer and I totally didn't. Lame. :(

Giving a kindergardener the cold shoulder was mighty kind of you. I get the same thing sometimes. They just look up to you.

Sony fans buy everything with "Sony" written on it. No joke!

Darn industrialized people! Did Native American's have nylon? Nay. I made one in history class with just a stick and sinew. It isn't very hard.

I'll sell you my copy for half price. :lol: I hated the game-play, but it has pretty graphics...Yay.

There is only two other ways...One is pleasant, the other...Isn't. :lol:

Shopping is boring. I especially do not understand why people take pleasure in buying new clothes every week. These people need help. American Eagle does not make you special.

Don't get picky and ask for a female doctor. I did and got some old hag. I would have rather had the guy, I think. You expect some smokin' hot nurse and BAM, you're hit in the head with your grandma. Didn't have to worry about anything embarassing "popping up", though...So whatever. :lol: I don't know why you have to turn your head and cough. I don't think I did. She barely even touched that area, thankfully.

I was just reading about the 6'8" tall 13 year old on one of the teams...That's the most interesting thing I've heard about it. Sports are teh lame. 6'8" at 13 is insane...I think I was 5'6" then. :lol:

or hand her a note sayin Do you like me? (chek one) *LITTLE BOX*yes *LITTLE BOX* yes wait 4 reply Friend of mine tried that once. The girl handed it back to him with "[ X ] NO!" written below the two Yes'. :lol: Anywhoos, Bubsa, I also noticed everyone here thinks relationship = sex. Sadly, that is what our generation believes, and it makes me want to walk around outside hitting people my age with a baseball bat without prejeduce. Our generation barely deserves life. :( *sigh*. If only they knew what I knew! 19 years old and never had sex and everyone I know knows that...At firs they say I'm a liar, but they ask around and find out. :P All the women look up to me and wish they had waited like me, it's really quite funny. I only know ONE other person in my age group who has waited and we've always been really good friends, but she's also sorta' religious...I'm not at all. We dated once a long time ago and since then, every other guy she's dated has broken up with her because she wouldn't "put out". You should see this girl, too...She's absolutely gorgeous. One of the most beautiful women I've ever seen, let alone know personally. She rawks, basically. So umm, where was I? Oh yea...Baseball bats...Got any?

I think it has to at least reach your neck, otherwise nuh-uh. Really really short (like, male short) is a definate no-no. But what do I know? My girlfriend's hair goes all the way down her back. :lol:

No you!

I'd do that too. I'm far too lazy to work out usually. I got all my muscle from Tae Kwon Do, skating, skiing and snowboarding when I was younger...The last couple years of laziness has took some of that away, though. But I'll keep my face, thanks. He probably gets collegen injections in his face like every couple months. In some movies, where he plays the bad guy (Interview with a vampire, for example), his scars are easily seen, but otherwise, they're not. Leads me to believe he gets injections done, but those are no where near permanent.

Saying a 10 year old is incapable of love is like saying a 10 year old is incapable of watching SpongeBob and eating candy. They all do it. If you asked a billion 10 year olds if they loved their mom, every single one would say yes. 10 year olds know what love is...They've been told by their parents that they are loved every single day. This isn't even about love, you dolts. It's about a 10 year old liking a 10 year old. Who the hell said they had marriage plans? At their age, "going out" just means you are really good friends and that kissing is an option. God, some people are so...incapable. Of thinking. At all.

Ever seen him without perfect make-up and lighting? He has giant pits (no pun intended) on his face from acne. I have NO idea why everyone thinks he's so good looking, because he looks like a normal dude to me. I wouldn't trade my looks for Brad Pitt's, that's for sure....I'd trade financial situations, yes...:P