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Why? If the thread lasted 50 days on Earth, and mainly in the solar system, I don't see why we need dozens of instantly available planets.

Putting some crap on a planet a few lightseconds away is a lot different then being able to travel millions of lightyears in a second. And we'll see how research on the drive goes, before we decide on it's availability.

Or we could try to get the ship to emulate a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon or tachyon I'm not sure if this is possible but if we could do that then it would obviously be ftl travel (but would probably require immense amounts of energy.) Tachyon's don't have mass. They are exotic matter. Nothing with mass, according to Einstein's theory of special relativity states that to travel at or above lightspeed would take an infinite amount of energy. But, the way that the warp engine I linked to would work is this. It's similar to a wormhole, but a lot less energy, and a lot more practical. It would condense spacetime in front of it, and expand it behind it, in a bubble. This would make it's distance/time make it seem like it was faster than light, but it wouldn't actually physically go faster than light, and would break no laws of physics.

I think finding creative ways of getting around the energy issue of the warp drive I proposed/linked to is a lot better for the game then just being handed some convenient wormholes.

The closest black hole is around 1000 light years away. I think one of us is misinterpreting that article, mather. Since once of the properties of exotic matter would be negative mass, and thus being repelled by gravity, that part was basically asking whether or not antimatter was exotic matter based on it's mass. Walka, being able to do whatever we wanted and ignoring physics would make it more interesting, but also really, really stupid.

Exotic matter is something working the opposite way of normal matter in the ways of physics so are therefore also including anti-matter. No, exotic matter There is a debate whether or not antimatter would have negative mass or not, though it is widely accepted that it does have positive mass.

Antimatter isn't exotic matter, to my knowledge. Exotic matter is basically stuff that breaks what we think are the laws for particles. EDIT: Atleast, I don't think it's exotic matter in the sense you're using. And it's not like one thing that's considered exotic matter=all exotic matter. Not by any means. That's like saying that water is matter, and steel is matter, thus water=steel.

Sorry, by you, I was only thinking of saudi arabia for some reason. Either way, it's not like I'm using 11 billion barrels a year. When I was talking about the talon, my main point was that you had developed it in 5 years, or so, and then it cost a ridiculously low amount. To get to space, shuttles are rarely used, atleast for us. That is where the main use of gas is. Even if we were using oil, getting to mars from the moon takes less than getting from earth to mars, iirc.

The thing with the warp drive would be that it makes it so distance is much less of an issue. If there are 3 within 20 lightyears, other than earth, then there might be dozens more within a hundred light years, which would end up as less than that because of how the warp drive works. Plus if we can manage to make a warp drive, I'm sure someone can manage terracreation or terraforming. @Ross Maybe a compromise would be 600 petajoules. That's maybe 3 months, for you.

Then go further than 20. I think exojoule's might be a bit much, since one battery would be enough to power every single thing that humans do on the planet for almost a month. And since only you would be using it, that would last probably a year or so, longer than it would take to charge. I think maybe 100 petawatts is reasonable. That would last you probably a day or so, or 12 hours, of full power of everything in your country. Or one giant mass of energy for something that needs a lot. Ross, I think for now it's going to be private. You guys have the terravenger and all that, which could be an equivalent to my station, probably.

We're announcing a research facility now. Some new ship plans I've been talking about for the past 15ish years, along with the ones like 7 years ago were actually research for the facility. It will be free floating in space, a few lightyears away, far away from any major source of gravity, so it won't be pulled too far within our lifetimes. It will be for research that would be impossible on earth, atleast safely. The rest of it is more secretive for now, as all the ships and materials have already been launched for several years, and I'm just saying this now so that I'm not announcing some big discovery sometime down the road with nothing to back it up. Latino, Venezuela, Norway and America combined produce a good amount more than you, iirc, and far more than I would consume. So yes. And as for nuclear powered craft, that's all with the technology they had in the 50's and 60's. A lot has changed since then. Rocco, read the warp speed article. I think it would be a lot better if we did something that was a lot more possible, and isn't just basically a cheat for more space.

Ross, how long does your battery charge for? 1 petajoule is enough to power all of humanity as of 09 for a good minute or so, I think, just so people have some reference.

I do know how mouch energy a wormhole takes, it's 5,083,280,782,100,000,000,000,000,000 elektrons or 5,083,280 terrawatt per quarter for a 6m gate. In theory. It's a theory. Wormholes exist, stable however must be man-made. I calculated that, knowing that for a wormhole to exist there must be created a "barrier" of elektrons moving at the speed of light, at which point they will shimmer blue(just look at the pic at wikipedia), and some sort of gas or liquid to keep it stable at both ends, that would be created using lasers to ionize the air inside the portal. That picture is just an artists impression. The idea of the most accepted idea of wormholes is a combination of a white hole, which is hypothetical, and a black hole. Wormholes are only a theory, as I said. The theories are possibly correct, but we don't know. It may be the most accepted idea but not the one with the most scientific facts to back it up. A wormhole is just a tunnel through space-time where one is traveling at the speed of light after "folding" all of space. It is generated by electrons moving over the speed of light and is often collapsed at sections when generated by black holes, to be able to generate a stable, directed wormhole all you need is two devices that make an exotic matter which to move the electrons through and a connection between them which is used to decide which to connect to. Exotic matter is also just hypothetical as well, but who knows. Again, there is no proof of any wormholes, ever, that is at all accepted by the scientific community. Atleast not that I've seen, if you can find some reputable sources, I'm fine with it. I'm not denying that wormholes exist, or that they don't break the laws of physics, but I'm just saying, there's no real proof. Here's a possible warp drive. http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/07/2 ... ngine.html I'll find some more on that soon.

I do know how mouch energy a wormhole takes, it's 5,083,280,782,100,000,000,000,000,000 elektrons or 5,083,280 terrawatt per quarter for a 6m gate. In theory. It's a theory. Wormholes exist, stable however must be man-made. I calculated that, knowing that for a wormhole to exist there must be created a "barrier" of elektrons moving at the speed of light, at which point they will shimmer blue(just look at the pic at wikipedia), and some sort of gas or liquid to keep it stable at both ends, that would be created using lasers to ionize the air inside the portal. That picture is just an artists impression. The idea of the most accepted idea of wormholes is a combination of a white hole, which is hypothetical, and a black hole. Wormholes are only a theory, as I said. The theories are possibly correct, but we don't know.

I do know how mouch energy a wormhole takes, it's 5,083,280,782,100,000,000,000,000,000 elektrons or 5,083,280 terrawatt per quarter for a 6m gate. In theory. It's a theory.

Haha, you're talking about Stargates, good idea though it really would make this game worth watching. Although two things are wrong, they don't bypass the laws of physics, they use stable wormholes(yes wormholes exists but in nature as biproducts of black holes.), and they're near instantanious, travel takes 3,6 seconds. And maybe add more of the network than what is currently explored by you. Would make room for more players without you others traveling there by ship. Wormholes don't exist, or there is no proof of them. It's a theory, and more of a "what if" theory than a theory backed up by fact. I'll find the link to the ftl thing in a bit. Latino, I have the US, which because the infrastructure was destroyed will have a lot more oil left than not. Venezuela and Norway sell me oil as well. I never said I stopped using oil altogether. Our use has been greatly diminished by advances in solar and nuclear power. We also have some parts of Canada, another producer. So saying I have no one selling me oil is kind of stupid.

when was it destroyed? When the owner quit. I claimed the land.

South Africa has effectively nothing left, and it's one of the colonies that's unclaimable by newcomers, since it was destroyed, and the only people there are colonizers directly from my main country.

You can have Somalia if you want, I guess. It's in a lot better shape than in real life, poverty is less of an issue, but it still needs work. Latino, I don't think this argument will really get anywhere, considering I had already said that the percentage was wrong, since it was based on real life projections and numbers, and you didn't really get my point with my last post. You were saying , and I was pointing out how you were throwing Wikipedia links to 2009 or earlier information.

Latino, if no one else posts anything about oil other than "I'm selling some oil to Japan" then what else am I supposed to base it on? And you're basing almost all of what you're saying on real life affairs with oil too, even though you're saying it has nothing to do with the game.

iirc only 9 billion worth of diamonds are produced each year. And I wasn't even getting all of that. The oil thing was done earlier on. Most of the costs of that have been negated by selling spaceships and various private deals. I guess the 50% thing was an overstatement, but I was basing that off what the oil reserves would be in 50 years or so based on how much oil is left, and how much we have now, at the rate that we're going at in real life, since calculating game rates is difficult, if not impossible.

There's only like like major oil supplier and that's me. There's no way, as I went green very early in this game. Besides...I've only sell to like one nation....Japan. What? You most certainly do not have more than 50% of the remaining oil, I only have one big consumption nation and that's China. You're tried to save while you have a lot of countries who consume a lot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... onsumption We're suppose to be realistic afterall, right? We just bought up as much of the oil we could afford earlier on in the game, and put it into our reserves. There's some post about it, but since no one ever said anything about stopping production of oil, or in general making everything run on solar whatevers, most of the oil would be gone at this point, with the massive amount of expansionism and production this game has seen. 50% could be be way off, but since I was the only one to post,and make that initiative that I've seen, I just threw that number out.

Oil has been saved up for decades by Brazil. We probably have more than 50% of the remaining oil in the world, and we're just stockpiling it for god knows what. There still is probably a good amount left on the market though, and it's still useful for high powered cars, tanks, military stuff, planes, and so on. Our ships are nuclear powered.

The ships I've put out for commercial sale aren't capable of interstellar travel. Atleast, not on a reasonable timescale.

If someone could give me a full list of territories of NWO (not just the empire's names, like for Brittania(sp) it would be Canada,Ireland, sweden, and England.) I could figure out the population ratios.