Wisp

Because you're insecure. That's the same reason why you apparently care so much about what people say about you on an online forum. That's the only thing I can really think of.

Sere, is there any way the deal I pmed you about could work? I'm willing to negotiate pretty much anything you want.

I was skimming through the thread and saw this post, without realizing what it was talking about, and I thought it mean flirting through google, somehow. That confused me.

Do you mean a game like a video game? Or something like this only with more rules/guidelines? It would be amazing if something that allowed us as much freedom as a rpg like this could be made into a video game or something. But that would probably require a lot more work than anyone would be willing to put in. The only way I could see something like that working is with a system that combined civilization iv, spore, and sins of a solar empire. Only on steroids. Like spore in that people could design their own vehicles, and the like, so each country had a unique look, and all that. Like civilization with the whole technologies thing, only with a lot more, and into like 500 years in the future of hypothetical tech. And like sins, in that stuff actually takes a long time, and games on sins can actually last a few months.

The only problem with a game like that is boundaries. We'd have to have fairly strict rules on discovery of planets, because unlike earth, we really have nothing to base stuff on. In this game I can't just discover an oil well that can put out 10 million barrels a day, but in a game like that, I could find a planet made out of pure gold or something. It would be cool though if a game like that was based in the future of this game. So like, I'd still be based on the Brazilian empire, only a few thousand years down the line. Or we could all go play sins of a solar empire for a few months straight. Also, by "bodies of my colonists" I thought he literally meant the corpses. I don't know.

If you want to start a game like this only interstellar, where everyone would start at the same point (So no countries/whatever have an advantage over eachother) and each person starts with their own planet or something, I'd probably join. It should be in the falador library though, as should this thread.

That's not what I'm saying, it's just it kind of bothers me that we're debating whether or not something would be possible in 2050 using 2009 logic -.- Because that's what we are. Humans, from 2009. If we could just change how everything works, the game would be really, really stupid. We found a way ftl travel can work, we should be happy with that. Yes, discovery is stupid. My bad, I didn't realize. I discover Newton was wrong about this whole "gravity" business. The earth floats off into outer space, and unfortunately collides with Jupiter, which happened to be going in a direction in which it would cross paths with earth. What a shame. My point is, 2009 is what is real, for us. We can't just say we can discover something that contradicts 2009 physics because we feel like it, because then we can change anything. In roleplaying, that's pretty much godmodding. If this were a game based around interstellar empires, with FTL from the start, I'd be ok with it, because that's how the game works. This game is based in reality though.

That's not what I'm saying, it's just it kind of bothers me that we're debating whether or not something would be possible in 2050 using 2009 logic -.- Because that's what we are. Humans, from 2009. If we could just change how everything works, the game would be really, really stupid. We found a way ftl travel can work, we should be happy with that.

And by 40 years of exponentially increasing research, you mean a post a few hours ago saying they had created exotic matter, and were making a wormhole, with no prior research? Physics is more constant than you might think. It's not like people are disproving Newton's laws every coupl'a weeks. While it is possible that Einteins special theory of relativity could be disproved, it is fairly unlikely. I agree that the dyson bubble or whatever logically is unlikely, but certainly not impossible. It would, in theory, be possible to make a spacecraft with negative mass, but no humans would be able to use it, because we have positive mass. If we somehow had negative mass, we wouldn't be able to breathe the air, which has positive mass and thus wouldn't be able to travel as fast as the ship. If we could somehow find a negative version of oxygen (That's not antimatter, by the way.), we wouldn't be able to land on a planet because our ship would be repelled by gravity. And so on.

Rocco, he spent a good two hours real life developing a space fighter, then built it instantly. I was just using the space shuttle as a reference. Obviously the space shuttle would cost less in the game, but a space fighter isn't gonna cost 1/30th or less of what the shuttle cost. That was geared more to the FTL travel stuff. True but theoretically would it be possible to give an object (or space ship) negative mass? (so it could go ftl) ( hehehe I am probably wrong) No it wouldn't. Rocco, we're already working on FTL travel. In a way that's not [developmentally delayed]ed. We've had this debate multiple times before.

Rocco, he spent a good two hours real life developing a space fighter, then built it instantly. I was just using the space shuttle as a reference. Obviously the space shuttle would cost less in the game, but a space fighter isn't gonna cost 1/30th or less of what the shuttle cost. That was geared more to the FTL travel stuff. Well considering we had like a 10 page debate, twice, and in that case had several people agreeing with me. And I'm pretty sure the amount of energy needed to create a wormhole won't change in 40 years. Nor the amount of energy in the universe.

Rocco, he spent a good two hours real life developing a space fighter, then built it instantly. I was just using the space shuttle as a reference. Obviously the space shuttle would cost less in the game, but a space fighter isn't gonna cost 1/30th or less of what the shuttle cost.

I didn't even bother translating it because there are a lot of words similar to English, or other languages I know. But I knew half the thread would be going crazy with translators.

What?!? Kvartz is the most common mineral on the entire Earth, and google doesn't know it! Lol! Kvarts http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvarts Silicon dioxide? Quartz?

The internet doesn't believe kvartz exists. And by the internet, I mean google.

Plus, there's the whole issue of you having not nearly enough money. The space shuttle, not even capable of reaching the moon costs about 150 billion. Or something like that.

It's not pre-designed, you have to research it ingame. I probably drew some spaceships as a toddler, it doesn't mean they're already in the game. EDIT: Plus, you have a gdp of like 180 billion. Meaning you have a research/extra budget of like 8.2 billion. The space shuttle cost more than that.

A fighter would take a ton more time than a transport

My first ship capable of interplanetary transport took 15 years to make. Just saying.

Latino, don't make a colony so big until you have more people EDIT(On Mars). Because that colony you claimed is like the size of the US for a few thousand people. Also, you're on the south pole. So that's a bad place, just saying.

Different concerts are good for different people. Some people are freaked out by mosh pits and how close everyone is to eachother, but that's one of the best parts of concerts for me. Concerts where everyone is sitting down are lame.

You don't have the right to give away my land. The bodies of my colonists are still there, so it's still technically mine. The USA is still England's because some long buried corpses of british loyalists are there, amirite?

I find all sorts of humor funny, sometimes even inappropriate rude troll humor is funny as hell, but that was just lame. The author constantly makes personal attacks on the personas and lives of the artists instead of concentrating on the title, and it gets unfunny fast. Horrible list. I agree the author of the list kinda sucked, most of the names weren't that great.

I can start building it in 6 months, then it will be ready in another 3 years. I've upgraded from my original design. It can now hold up to 15,000 people. You can pay for it in any time period under 7 years, in order to minimize the impact of it, or all at once, or in between. It takes a couple days to get to mars at an optimal time, then a week or two to unload people. Back on earth it takes 2 weeks to load to maximum capacity, due to the higher gravity, plus a few more days to repair and refuel. It is also somewhat expensive to launch each time. Of course the time it takes to get to mars varies, based on where we are in orbit in relations to Mars. Cost effectively, the ship would take 2 months on average to load on earth, get to mars, unload, then get back, repair, and refuel. Someone remove finlands old colony, or add it to Norway.

Someone I know was working on making a mod for l4d which was sort of similar to cod5, in that you can build/repair defenses. The way the mod was going to work was it was a small city or something like that, with about 10 different multi-story buildings which you could go into. There were things you could pick up and make barricades out of (Like you can pick up propane tanks, I think it worked on the same principle of that, or of HL2's engine how you can pick up anything practically.). Once they were placed the physics for them would be altered, so it would be tough for zombies to get through, or they had to break it. He figured out the basics of how to do it, but it ended up being way to difficult to get everything to work out, and it ended up never being finished.