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Why Green Fuels in the United States are a joke

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$2.60 per gallon?! Damn thats cheap.

 

 

 

In the Los Angeles area they're around $3.00-$3.50 :x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the media is stupid. If its a confress about Green Fuels the questions should be about Green Fuels. [/b]

"The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is."

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Ethanol is something i disagree with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(this is a side point, but i'd like to make it) Ethanol is probably one of the worst choices for a "Green fuel". i will admit very easily and i completely agree that it burns better than gas and works fine. However, what people overlook is that corn doesn't magically turn into gas...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The gas required to run the machines that PRODUCE the ethanol, is actually around the same amount of gas used in the first place...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, this is kind of odd...that they'd be asking questions like that. I think that people just want the stuff like that, they don't care about global warming, they want to hear about anna nicole smith, and i think that's partly somewhat of the bitter truth :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are ethanol plants in South America and stuff that make Ethanol from Sugar Cane and they burn the material from Sugar Cane to make energy to make the fuel...Just an FYI.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hydrogen is also currently made by running electricity through water...That electricity is made by...burning oil!

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i had to research and "develop" new ways to make fuel for my BS intro engineering course (you know...the weed out crap)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway...i was assigned biomass and to me it isn't the future...way too much time that we don't have to put it into place...if we were to do it it shoulda been done in the 70's during the crisis like Brazil did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO the future of energy sources is nano-technology..

Ethanol is something i disagree with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(this is a side point, but i'd like to make it) Ethanol is probably one of the worst choices for a "Green fuel". i will admit very easily and i completely agree that it burns better than gas and works fine. However, what people overlook is that corn doesn't magically turn into gas...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The gas required to run the machines that PRODUCE the ethanol, is actually around the same amount of gas used in the first place...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, this is kind of odd...that they'd be asking questions like that. I think that people just want the stuff like that, they don't care about global warming, they want to hear about anna nicole smith, and i think that's partly somewhat of the bitter truth :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how do you think regular gas is made? at least ethanol is made in the US and doesnt have to be shipped millions of miles to get here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tbh there isn't one good alternative to what we already have, and believe me, it's not from a lack of effort. GM came here last year with a presentation on their hydrogen car, that they already had hundreds of millions of dollars invested in, that's still at the very least, 10 years away from full production.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

people expect there to be some great amazing alternative fuel that the government is hiding or something, but there isnt. the only way to truly reduce greenhouse gas emissions is to simply conserve energy, something that very few people actively do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ethanol would drastically reduce the price of gas here in the US if it were implemented on a nationwide scale, but it's unlikely to happen unless something weird happens, like iran capturing some british soldiers and throwing us into the next world war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh wait, maybe it isn't so unlikey.... :ohnoes:

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I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the governemnt here thought

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

green fuels = greenhouse gasses

 

 

 

:lol:

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$2.70? tigra it's expensive where you live

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it be $2.26-$2.50 here <3:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

National average right now is $2.60...I dunno' what it is right here at the moment. I haven't gone to town for a while, and I haven't had a car for months due to some redneck imbred [developmentally delayed] hitting me and not paying for it. Sooo, yea. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally don't give a crap about Anna Nichole Smith and can't understand why anyone would. She did drugs and died...End of story. She's like Paris Hilton...No talent, yet everyone cares about them. Paradox, anyone?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do kinda' care about who the father of her kid is, though. I know it doesn't matter at all and isn't important news, but that Howard Stern guy KNOWS it isn't his, and that Larry Berkhead guy seems pretty decent, so I'm hoping it's his, and I hope he gets a slice of that fortune of Anna's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, REAL news doesn't pay well...Apparently.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did a little calculation and us Aussies pay TWICE as much for petrol (or 'gas' as you guys call it. Kinda funny when it's a liquid :P ). Although factoring in our dollar compared to yours (hovering around a high at the moment of 80c Aussie per U.S. dollar) it's a bit better than it sounds.

You contradicted yourself in the same post. First by saying its highly regulated and then you go on to say that they display news depending on how much revenue the piece will make?

 

 

 

I'm saying the mainstream news is regulated by the corporation itself for maximum revenue.

 

 

 

To regulate is to "control or direct according to rule, principle or law" (dict). I'd say the principle of staying in business applies in this case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the future of oil, one article states:

 

 

 

In a year, the U.S. consumes about 146 billion gallons (about 550 billion liters) of gasoline! [...] The U.S. is releasing roughly 2 billion pounds of carbon into the atmosphere each day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another article states:

 

 

 

If world oil consumption continues to increase at an average rate of 1.4 percent a year, and no further resources are discovered, the world̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s oil supply will not be exhausted until the year 2056.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scary thoughts if they are accurate! :shock:

$2.60 per gallon?! Damn thats cheap.

 

 

 

In the Los Angeles area they're around $3.00-$3.50 :x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the media is stupid. If its a confress about Green Fuels the questions should be about Green Fuels. [/b]

San Francisco (where I live) just broke $3.70!
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In the UK when something is regulated it means that an indepedant company or organisation checks to make sure that they follow the rules and standards set out by gorenment. I.e Providing unbiased news reporting etc. While technically business management might fall into the category of regulation it was perfectly clear that was not what i meant by my post.

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You contradicted yourself in the same post. First by saying its highly regulated and then you go on to say that they display news depending on how much revenue the piece will make?

 

 

 

I'm saying the mainstream news is regulated by the corporation itself for maximum revenue.

 

 

 

To regulate is to "control or direct according to rule, principle or law" (dict). I'd say the principle of staying in business applies in this case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the future of oil, one article states:

 

 

 

In a year, the U.S. consumes about 146 billion gallons (about 550 billion liters) of gasoline! [...] The U.S. is releasing roughly 2 billion pounds of carbon into the atmosphere each day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another article states:

 

 

 

If world oil consumption continues to increase at an average rate of 1.4 percent a year, and no further resources are discovered, the world̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s oil supply will not be exhausted until the year 2056.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scary thoughts if they are accurate! :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im sure he meant regulated by the government to actually report the NEWS, not popular culture entertainment, as seems to be the most important news here in the US.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for your numbers, i'd say they are probably fairly accurate, although i would say that the worlds oil supply will last at least 75 more years, especially since we are increasing our dependance on ethanol fuels slowly but surely.

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