June 17, 200719 yr Why is there a need to pay where you can find good players in game that will willingly volunteer to help for the better of the game? Paid moderators will mostly be there only for the pay, unlike volunteers who will obviously do a better job. That's complete and utter BS. Since player mods are... Well... Players they're going to be biased towards a certain group of people/person or even be more lenient with those they call their friends whereas others would receive a mute for the same offense. At least by hiring a group of non-players who don't have a stake in any in-game actions you would ensure at least a measure of impartiality.
June 17, 200719 yr If its your lifelong dream to be a moderator you really need to rethink your life. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002
June 17, 200719 yr Actually, I know of a few people who are player mods solely because they post a lot of the RSOF (And never, ever criticize Jagex). Anyway, this is only my opinion, but I believe we only have player mods because Jagex is too lazy/unwilling to dish out extra money for real game GM's. Yeah that's true, usually people who get selected to be mods never disagree with what Jagex does, and if they do it's only very mildly. Jagex will never be willing to hire ppl to moderate. That's just the way it is. To be honest with you, as a forum moderator we Do complain a fair bit :P but the differnece is we complain constructivly. When Jagex do somthing I dont like they do hear about it, but unlike alot of people I will sit back and thing "why is this bad? is it bad for everybody or just me? can it be done better in the future" I think before I post, not just post which is a skill i wish some other people learnt. I do often however take the side of Jagex alot over that of a player, I know quite well how Jagex operate through my gaming experiance and so have alot of respect for them as a company. And actually the customer service is quite good! (if you want to see what real bad customer service is try and speak with HP computers :P). Alot of players are very misguided, and it is usually the mature players who can spot this and help corrrect them. This is why they gain moderator status..... because they are mature...... not because they think Jmods are gods.
June 17, 200719 yr If its your lifelong dream to be a moderator you really need to rethink your life. lol I was going to post exactly what you just said.
June 17, 200719 yr Actually, I know of a few people who are player mods solely because they post a lot of the RSOF (And never, ever criticize Jagex). Anyway, this is only my opinion, but I believe we only have player mods because Jagex is too lazy/unwilling to dish out extra money for real game GM's. Yeah that's true, usually people who get selected to be mods never disagree with what Jagex does, and if they do it's only very mildly. Jagex will never be willing to hire ppl to moderate. That's just the way it is. To be honest with you, as a forum moderator we Do complain a fair bit :P but the differnece is we complain constructivly. When Jagex do somthing I dont like they do hear about it, but unlike alot of people I will sit back and thing "why is this bad? is it bad for everybody or just me? can it be done better in the future" I think before I post, not just post which is a skill i wish some other people learnt. I do often however take the side of Jagex alot over that of a player, I know quite well how Jagex operate through my gaming experiance and so have alot of respect for them as a company. And actually the customer service is quite good! (if you want to see what real bad customer service is try and speak with HP computers :P). Alot of players are very misguided, and it is usually the mature players who can spot this and help corrrect them. This is why they gain moderator status..... because they are mature...... not because they think Jmods are gods. Mods aren't the only people who complain constructively. I personally know of alot of good constructive threads on the RSOF. I think before I post too, it's just that the conclusion I reach generally doesn't agree with Jagex. What I hate most is that SOME people on there assume they're better than others just because they agree with the ditch, tutors, etc. (not talking about you btw, just some people). Misguided? How do you know you're not misguided? Yeah I know that there are alot of people who don't know what they're doing, but there's also quite a few that do.
June 17, 200719 yr Oh sorry, hope I did not sound rude! of course there are alot of very constructive player on the offical forums who are not mods, lots of great fantastic people. To be honest with you though I fully support the ditch, it has it's negative points such as slower rcing time (slightly) but when you way everything up it's good for the sake of the community (also it was my friend who suggested it :P and i suggesed a certain eliment of it). When I said misguided I was meaning the people who have no clue what they are talking about, and there are alot of them. People who speak as if they know everything when they really really dont.
June 17, 200719 yr I got the Pmod status the "good way". Playing by the rules, acting nice and reporting abuse as I saw it. Was modded in F2P, some time in march. I've been enjoying this greatly, all my friends reacted positively and I met a totally new community amongst the other Pmods. In my opinion, the Pmod community is the absolutely most courteous, friendly and accepting community that revolves around RS in existance. Yes, there are bad eggs, and there will always be some. It's the same in RL, corrupted police and politicans, it isn't a perfect world. It seems that the community expects us to be gods of knowledge and power. The most other Pmods I've met have been wackoes, clowns. All they do is joke around and respond to a question with a joke. Some of my favourites actually. Then we got the serious ones, usually responds with "I can't help you with that" or just having their public chat to friends. Staying in the shadows, hunting down rulebreakers. Then we got the hybrid, the talkative, reports as he sees fit. The average playing person, that has been selected as a Pmod after years of playing and reporting. At last, the bad egg. Modded because of reporting superiority, quality doesn't matter, quantity does in their world. When they have reached the status of ultimate power they will use it, to their own advantage. Threatening other players, abusing their position to improve their own account. Luckily they're a minority, though again, a minority of the community chooses to judge all Pmods by the bad eggs. Abusive tyrannic persons. Most mods are good people, just give them a chance. And please, just please don't flood our PM with questions, one at a time. R.I.P. Shiva and Steve
June 17, 200719 yr Author I got the Pmod status the "good way". Playing by the rules, acting nice and reporting abuse as I saw it. Was modded in F2P, some time in march. I've been enjoying this greatly, all my friends reacted positively and I met a totally new community amongst the other Pmods. In my opinion, the Pmod community is the absolutely most courteous, friendly and accepting community that revolves around RS in existance. Yes, there are bad eggs, and there will always be some. It's the same in RL, corrupted police and politicans, it isn't a perfect world. It seems that the community expects us to be gods of knowledge and power. The most other Pmods I've met have been wackoes, clowns. All they do is joke around and respond to a question with a joke. Some of my favourites actually. Then we got the serious ones, usually responds with "I can't help you with that" or just having their public chat to friends. Staying in the shadows, hunting down rulebreakers. Then we got the hybrid, the talkative, reports as he sees fit. The average playing person, that has been selected as a Pmod after years of playing and reporting. At last, the bad egg. Modded because of reporting superiority, quality doesn't matter, quantity does in their world. When they have reached the status of ultimate power they will use it, to their own advantage. Threatening other players, abusing their position to improve their own account. Luckily they're a minority, though again, a minority of the community chooses to judge all Pmods by the bad eggs. Abusive tyrannic persons. Most mods are good people, just give them a chance. And please, just please don't flood our PM with questions, one at a time. nice description of people like me ^_^ anyway, very few are actual bad eggs, which means Jagex is picking the right people and rarely make mistake. We should euthanize anyone who lacks the capability to contribute to society in any way.Please don't elect this man for president in 2012
June 18, 200719 yr That's complete and utter BS. Since player mods are... Well... Players they're going to be biased towards a certain group of people/person or even be more lenient with those they call their friends whereas others would receive a mute for the same offense. At least by hiring a group of non-players who don't have a stake in any in-game actions you would ensure at least a measure of impartiality. Unless you are referring to forum mods, Pmods are more or less going to be in the game, so in whatever way you say they are still going to be players who are still going to "play" the game, will at one stage meet in game friends and develop personalities like you mentioned? In the end, we are back to square one where the results of hired and volunteery moderators are going to turn out the same. Strangely with WotLK so near, I wished I could delay it a bit to push through that last TBC content in MH/BT :'(.
June 18, 200719 yr the lenience with friends would be caused by knowledge of their personalities. you'll know when your friends are joking about something, where that might not always be true with a random person. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr
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