Player and Forum mods: Life Long dream?

[WookieeMania12]

Written by WookieeMania12 (aka Abacore35)

 

 

 

Player mods. Some of the big dreams for many players. With that crown and a new option, lots of people hope that someday they'll be chosen by Jagex. However, is being a mod a life-long dream or is it torture?

 

 

 

The way a player mod is chosen is when Jagex PMs him/her by account e-mail that he/she has been chosen to be player mods. He/she has the option to decline but a lot more accepted the proposal. Apart from getting access to a mod forum, they have the option to mute players if they have pushed the envelope in rules. Along with that, they also get a silver crown next to their names to show their player mod status.

 

 

 

 

a player mod discussing the crown.

 

 

 

According to the playermod FAQ: "Player Moderators are there to help monitor fair play in the game. It is up to the individual Player Moderator whether they offer in-game assistance and they are under no obligation to do this. Their role is merely to report offenses as, and when, they see them." Despite this, player mods have been getting lots of attention since the moment the player mods came out. Many people consider player mods almost as famous, if not better than the already famous Zezima.

 

 

 

Many player mods only speak when they have to; but that doesn't mean they are free of these issues. Even rule-breakers annoy these famous elite players due to possible hatred of their ability to mute rule-breakers if possible. Many people scam on F2p worlds due to beginning players and ignorance of possible scams around the Runescape world.

 

 

 

 

a player decides to act racy to a player mod. The player mod in question uses wit to overcome this situation.

 

 

 

Not all people who swarm player mods are scammers or newbies. Some just want a good friend or if so, get items from them. A rumor is passed that player mods have the option to insert random items and this is very untrue. Other players don't care if their buddy is a player mod or not, as long as they don't act ignorant in their opinion. Some people can get exciting when they meet a player moderator, but usually player mods don't mind too much of that.

 

 

 

Player mods are "un-modded" when they break the rules and guide-lines of Runescape. They is a very rare situation and a 1 in a million chance of a player mod in control of his account during these situations. Any accidental mutes/reports may not be able to cause a record.

 

 

 

Player mods have been known of certain characteristics. Some are goofy and sarcastic, some are shy and serious, etc. If they get a pointless question, they may try to repel it with goofy jokes and then explain it was a gag.

 

 

 

 

a player mod twists the old "weapons for sale" idea into something insane. Not pictured he telling the player that he was joking and didn't have any weapons for sale.

 

 

 

 

player mod telling a player that he is wondering if he knowns him.

 

 

 

Forum mods are different from player mods. They don't get any in-game features but they are selected in the same way as player mods. The difference is forum mods have abilities to lock and hide certain topics if required. Many people claim forum mod jobs are harder than player mod jobs due to a lot of locked posts going beyond the rules. Forum mods have green crowns and a green post when they post something. Player mods do not have the ability to patrol the forums. It is unknown if players can be both forum and player mods

 

 

 

 

a lot of topics locked in one page of the rant forums.

 

 

 

A lot of controversy have been erupted about these moderators saying that, "we don't need groups of elite players catching rule-breakers."; some even claim that at least 1/2 of moderators are power-hungry goons. Usually the ignorant or rule-breakers spread this up and hope that it would pass off as data. Also paparazzi s have been known of editing certain player-mod comments to make it look like fact.

 

 

 

Aside from that, there are "wanna-be mods" that try to report certain offenses that are just made to look like offenses. Usually they go around saying "reported" when someone acts up illegally or legally; these people are very unpopular and may not even reach their goal before getting reported for mis-use of customer support

 

 

 

Are player mods and forum mods great or are they just corrupted?

 

 

 

MY WORD: I think that very few mods go corrupt with power as they only get very few new options. Any in trouble are dealt with, so its not like Jagex is ignoring any corrupted moderators. There are a lot of players and Jagex can't do it all by themselves; hence comes the moderators. Before I became a player mod, I thought it was a good idea as its a chance to make sure no one is breaking the rules. Its like extra help and being gives you a sort of satisfaction. Moderators help us a lot; without mods, the rants forum would be flooded with illegal posts and scammers would be roaming a lot of times. But, every moderators has cons and they should be noted.

[trunksrs]

I think that a major problem with mods is the way that they are picked. It seems that if someone wants to become a mod, the way to go about it is to report every minor offense you see, getting up a really high count. However, I don't think that this is what a mod's responsibility is. If someone says "Go to tip.it for a guide to this quest", or asks for a bf/gf (an addition to rule one that I don't even remember being announced, so I'm sure plenty of people don't know you're not allowed to), then they should not automatically be reported. Instead, they need a friendly message saying "Hey, you shouldn't do/say that, it's against the rules." However, it seems that players that act like that, never get their report counts up high enough to be asked to become a mod.

[Toxicologist]

There is no evidence as to the claim that JAGeX picks their moderators carelessly. From what I've been seeing, most of the moderators JAGeX picked are all good choices. I don't really think that a level 3 standing in World 1 Varrock Bank reporting people left and right is going to be chosen simply because he reported lots of people.

[highlanders]

I'm pretty sure jagex has trained monkeys pushing the ban button at random. I saw a screenshot of a guy who sent as last chance appeal: "**** you Jagex, I did it, I did swear and scam, bam me i dont careee hahaha"

 

And guess what? His last chance appeal was accepted, along with appologies from Jagex. Either someone has a sense of humour, or the trained monkey decided to save him.

 

IMO, Jagex just picks randomly p mods along players lvl 60+ :lol: I have a friend whose brother became p mod, he was lvl 80, and he never reported people, never did anything special. P mod status just fell on him at random.

 

I'm thinking 30% of p mods are so for unjustified reasons. Especially when you see a lvl 70 p mod, that obviously has no idea how to play this game, poor skills, and probably just reported people to get p modness, I think it's just ridiculous.

[WookieeMania12]

I'm pretty sure jagex has trained monkeys pushing the ban button at random. I saw a screenshot of a guy who sent as last chance appeal: "**** you Jagex, I did it, I did swear and scam, bam me i dont careee hahaha"

 

And guess what? His last chance appeal was accepted, along with appologies from Jagex. Either someone has a sense of humour, or the trained monkey decided to save him.

 

IMO, Jagex just picks randomly p mods along players lvl 60+ :lol: I have a friend whose brother became p mod, he was lvl 80, and he never reported people, never did anything special. P mod status just fell on him at random.

 

I'm thinking 30% of p mods are so for unjustified reasons. Especially when you see a lvl 70 p mod, that obviously has no idea how to play this game, poor skills, and probably just reported people to get p modness, I think it's just ridiculous.

 

 

 

That was probably months ago because the rants sticky with all the unfair mutes/bans have not been as active as it used to be. Anyway, these mods may be new at moderating so don't point at someone who could be new unless you know for sure he's not doing his job.

[Bobbington]

Kick of this: Hello my name is Bobbington and I have a green background on the offical forums!

 

 

 

The Pmod team and the Fmod team are very important to the community, and i am sure you know we do alot more than just lock stuff (or Pmods mute stuff). It is true that in the Pmod teams there are some definate mistakes, but this is to be expected in a team of over 6000 (?), The vast majority of bad mods are rooted out but there are some fairly wel know cases where they where not spotted :shock: but thou shalt not judge!

 

 

 

In the Fmod team there where 150 of us last time i counted (ish) of which a large majority are still active, and to be perfectly honest with you...... I trust and respect and trust every single one of them, there are no currupt moderators on our team, and of that I am proud :).

 

 

 

A major reason why the Fmod team can be so long I although I am not sure how the selection prosess works, it is clear that everything we do on the forums while we are beeing selected can be watched. They know if we can do the job or not. Again I dotn know how it works, but I dont think they can be so sure in the Pmod team.

 

 

 

But I still love the presence of the Pmod team, they are really good for the game community and help build and develop the rules.

 

 

 

I still get annoyed when people think us moderators are just the WBM's who got modded, we are tottaly differnt and can spot a WBM for a while off. The problem is peopel whant to be a moderator for the wrong reasons, they think it makes them cool, and a better player (and they get phr33 st00f), but any of these players who get modded I guarentee would not like it, it is a hard job, and can come with alot of stress unless you want to be a mod as you truely want to help the community, I always though I would never be a moderator for various reasons but yet I knew I still wanted to help the community. So ratehr than wbm (I would ahve never done this anyway) I just tried my best to eb a good person and make a posertive effect on the forum community.

 

 

 

I dont know the ins and outs of the Pmods role, but I am sure that the Fnod role is harder to do, the rules on the forums are far less black ont he forums than ingame, and there is far much more judgment we have to use.

 

 

 

Once I made a spelling mistake in a thread I locked, as a dyslexic persona I am bound to make a the odd mistake.

 

Becase i spelt "have" Haev" the player took it on himself to make 20 new threads about what an idiot I was........ not the nisest feeling and the player ended up with a ban rather than a warning (although i think he was aiming for one anyway)

 

 

 

There is so much more resting on us in the forums, every mistake is looked at :(

 

 

 

 

 

Pmods do a fantastic job though, there are soem bad eggs, and some do get modded for the total wrong reasons, but yet as a whole team they are needed, and I like them.

[highlanders]

Obviously that was months ago and the proof is that the rants sticky about being unbanned fairly are rarely recent bans/mutes that were unfair.

 

Good job, you sure blow our minds away with your great sentence coherence.

[Sly_Wizard]

At one point in the time the P-Mod list could be found on the internet (It probably still can). If you happened to take a look at it and casually put people's names into the highscore table, you might have noticed that quite a few of them were either ridiculously low leveled or had one or two stats on the highscores table (And they were usually only level 40'ish to boot!), as if they'd only been playing for a month. Crap like that really makes you wonder just how much thought Jagex actually puts into picking their P-Mods... :-k

[Dragonlordjl]

Yes, it is always irritating to see a level 50 with four ranked stats with a white crown, when I have played for over 6 years and NEVER had a blackmark.... Yet have I been contacted to be a P mod, even once? Nope. :boohoo:

[WookieeMania12]

Obviously that was months ago and the proof is that the rants sticky about being unbanned fairly are rarely recent bans/mutes that were unfair.

 

Good job, you sure blow our minds away with your great sentence coherence.

 

 

 

Oops... I'll fix that :S

[Ginger_Warrior]

I think one of the big problems with analysing the mods is that we don't actually know a lot about them, or how they are selected. Therefore, I find it very difficult putting an opinion on moderators, not least because there are so many of them, and it would be wrong to make such a rash generalisation.

 

 

 

As far as Player Mods go, the concept just eludes me. How can you give such a significant number of the game's community extra powers is beyond me. It creates jealousy, due the fact it just creates a heirachy within a heirachy. This leads to hostility, and the problem isn't helped by Jagex's lack of clarification regarding this issue.

[trunksrs]

There is no evidence as to the claim that JAGeX picks their moderators carelessly. From what I've been seeing, most of the moderators JAGeX picked are all good choices. I don't really think that a level 3 standing in World 1 Varrock Bank reporting people left and right is going to be chosen simply because he reported lots of people.

 

 

 

I wasn't trying to say they are very careless about how they choose them. I have seen plenty of good player mods. I just think the way they decide is flawed.

[Freesia]

Yes, it is always irritating to see a level 50 with four ranked stats with a white crown, when I have played for over 6 years and NEVER had a blackmark.... Yet have I been contacted to be a P mod, even once? Nope. :boohoo:

 

Having good stats or experience should not actually count as factor for being a pmod, like that lvl 50 you have said, you do not actually know him/her well, he/she may have being around in Runescape longer than you, just not playing a lot. You will not know anyway, why even stereotype him/her?

[Alg]

There is no evidence as to the claim that JAGeX picks their moderators carelessly. From what I've been seeing, most of the moderators JAGeX picked are all good choices. I don't really think that a level 3 standing in World 1 Varrock Bank reporting people left and right is going to be chosen simply because he reported lots of people.

 

 

 

I wasn't trying to say they are very careless about how they choose them. I have seen plenty of good player mods. I just think the way they decide is flawed.

 

you mean deciding by behavior?

 

it seems to work well enough

[Ginger_Warrior]

I disagree with the experience point. A player should have some experience of the game at least. If they're constantly going off and coming back again like you stated, then the chances are they have a very sketchy picture of the game anyway, and in my opinion, this doesn't make them suitable to be a moderator.

 

 

 

Also, about the behaviour point. Of course, there is nothing wrong with selecting people by behaviour, but can Jagex really justify watching a couple of weeks' worth of behaviour, and then make a rational decision as to whether that person is a good person for the job?

[WookieeMania12]

I disagree with the experience point. A player should have some experience of the game at least. If they're constantly going off and coming back again like you stated, then the chances are they have a very sketchy picture of the game anyway, and in my opinion, this doesn't make them suitable to be a moderator.

 

 

 

Also, about the behaviour point. Of course, there is nothing wrong with selecting people by behaviour, but can Jagex really justify watching a couple of weeks' worth of behaviour, and then make a rational decision as to whether that person is a good person for the job?

 

 

 

few weeks? You must be mistaken...

 

 

 

I wasn't calling people noobs and I was very polite; but it took me FIVE years before I became one.

[Ginger_Warrior]

I disagree with the experience point. A player should have some experience of the game at least. If they're constantly going off and coming back again like you stated, then the chances are they have a very sketchy picture of the game anyway, and in my opinion, this doesn't make them suitable to be a moderator.

 

 

 

Also, about the behaviour point. Of course, there is nothing wrong with selecting people by behaviour, but can Jagex really justify watching a couple of weeks' worth of behaviour, and then make a rational decision as to whether that person is a good person for the job?

 

 

 

few weeks? You must be mistaken...

 

 

 

I wasn't calling people noobs and I was very polite; but it took me FIVE years before I became one.

 

 

 

Very good, and congratulations, but that doesn't prove Jagex was watching you for five years does it? The fact is, if mods only got selected after five years of playing, there'd be very few mods out there, which eveidently isn't true.

[Alg]

I disagree with the experience point. A player should have some experience of the game at least. If they're constantly going off and coming back again like you stated, then the chances are they have a very sketchy picture of the game anyway, and in my opinion, this doesn't make them suitable to be a moderator.

 

 

 

Also, about the behaviour point. Of course, there is nothing wrong with selecting people by behaviour, but can Jagex really justify watching a couple of weeks' worth of behaviour, and then make a rational decision as to whether that person is a good person for the job?

 

 

 

few weeks? You must be mistaken...

 

 

 

I wasn't calling people noobs and I was very polite; but it took me FIVE years before I became one.

 

 

 

Very good, and congratulations, but that doesn't prove Jagex was watching you for five years does it? The fact is, if mods only got selected after five years of playing, there'd be very few mods out there, which eveidently isn't true.

 

to tell the truth, not even mods know about the selection process, so nobody can really criticize it except jagex staff.

[WookieeMania12]

A lot were probably picked when the mod option came out.

[Sly_Wizard]

Actually, I know of a few people who are player mods solely because they post a lot of the RSOF (And never, ever criticize Jagex).

 

 

 

Anyway, this is only my opinion, but I believe we only have player mods because Jagex is too lazy/unwilling to dish out extra money for real game GM's.

[Hi9im8Here7]

Actually, I know of a few people who are player mods solely because they post a lot of the RSOF (And never, ever criticize Jagex).

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, this is only my opinion, but I believe we only have player mods because Jagex is too lazy/unwilling to dish out extra money for real game GM's.

 

 

 

Yeah that's true, usually people who get selected to be mods never disagree with what Jagex does, and if they do it's only very mildly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex will never be willing to hire ppl to moderate. That's just the way it is.

[WookieeMania12]

Actually, I know of a few people who are player mods solely because they post a lot of the RSOF (And never, ever criticize Jagex).

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, this is only my opinion, but I believe we only have player mods because Jagex is too lazy/unwilling to dish out extra money for real game GM's.

 

 

 

Yeah that's true, usually people who get selected to be mods never disagree with what Jagex does, and if they do it's only very mildly.

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex will never be willing to hire ppl to moderate. That's just the way it is.

 

 

 

Are you trying to say that a lot of us are upset that Jagex isn't paying us? That is total bull 'cause I don't care about being paid as a mod. Second, there are a lot of mods out there and very few quit.

 

 

 

P.S So much for a "hateful" job

[hellbellz]

Some players report everything they can, so they can soley become a mod. I find it stupid. They don't have much power, honostly. I'm sure it might make them happy, but I've seen quite a few monds leave the team because it was a "hard job".

[Freesia]

Yeah that's true, usually people who get selected to be mods never disagree with what Jagex does, and if they do it's only very mildly.

 

 

 

Jagex will never be willing to hire ppl to moderate. That's just the way it is.

 

Why is there a need to pay where you can find good players in game that will willingly volunteer to help for the better of the game? Paid moderators will mostly be there only for the pay, unlike volunteers who will obviously do a better job.

[Alg]

Yeah that's true, usually people who get selected to be mods never disagree with what Jagex does, and if they do it's only very mildly.

 

 

 

Jagex will never be willing to hire ppl to moderate. That's just the way it is.

 

Why is there a need to pay where you can find good players in game that will willingly volunteer to help for the better of the game? Paid moderators will mostly be there only for the pay, unlike volunteers who will obviously do a better job.

 

most people come to me asking how they can be mods because they think they'll get paid. it occasionally crushes their hopes when they find out that it is a volunteer job