well, the past 2 days, i've been noticing some extreme lag on tif, taking up to 30 seconds to load a topic, but all other web windows are fine. :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: anyone else got this, or a solution?

I've noticed this a bit aswell... Maybe it's these annoying terrible ads. :evil:

Yup, I think there bandwith may be currently maxed out. Forum update time?

maybe it's just with all the updates, bandwith used up.

I have used adbrite on lots of different sites with no lag. It is a possibility that its the script that makes the green link adverts which is causing lag but unlikely.

it's the end of the month. they're probably making some cutbacks to save bandwidth or nicking some from somewhere else. next month means fresh bandwidth allowance so it'll probably be gone then either way :)

it's the end of the month. they're probably making some cutbacks to save bandwidth or nicking some from somewhere else. next month means fresh bandwidth allowance so it'll probably be gone then either way :)

 

 

 

That's probably one of the stupider things I've read around here. A dedicated server doesn't 'nick' bandwidth from somewhere else during an overage. It also doesn't get 'cutback' when near an overage. Tip.It pays for enough bandwidth to cover what is used during the month. If they didn't, the host would charge them per gigabyte over that allowance.

 

 

 

A dedicated server doesn't work like a home connection's bandwidth allowance...

I don't know personally how the in-text advertisements work, but it's possible that whatever script is running (or whatever it is) that finds these hot-words is causing the lag. The code has to scan the entire page, and essentially chooses at random where and when it wants to put the advertisement. This could put significant lag on a large page with lots of words to scan...

it's the end of the month. they're probably making some cutbacks to save bandwidth or nicking some from somewhere else. next month means fresh bandwidth allowance so it'll probably be gone then either way :)

 

 

 

That's probably one of the stupider things I've read around here. A dedicated server doesn't 'nick' bandwidth from somewhere else during an overage. It also doesn't get 'cutback' when near an overage. Tip.It pays for enough bandwidth to cover what is used during the month. If they didn't, the host would charge them per gigabyte over that allowance.

 

 

 

A dedicated server doesn't work like a home connection's bandwidth allowance...

 

 

 

I didn't mean the hosting company nicking from other places, I meant there's every chance tif are hosting files elsewhere temporarily to cut down on bandwidth use. Thus, they could be using a different server for certain files temporarily.

I didn't mean the hosting company nicking from other places, I meant there's every chance tif are hosting files elsewhere temporarily to cut down on bandwidth use. Thus, they could be using a different server for certain files temporarily.

 

Which means paying for another server or more bandwidth, defeating the entire purpose. :? All of Tip.It's policies stop users from leeching various thing from them. They sure as hell aren't going to go leeching bandwidth from someone else.

I don't know personally how the in-text advertisements work, but it's possible that whatever script is running (or whatever it is) that finds these hot-words is causing the lag. The code has to scan the entire page, and essentially chooses at random where and when it wants to put the advertisement. This could put significant lag on a large page with lots of words to scan...

 

 

 

Unlikely - it's a low order search, and constant time to make the change. this doesn't mean it isn't related, but I highly doubt it's the searching on the page.

 

 

 

Things that would slow the forums down would be something that's doing MASSIVE amounts of searching, like the search feature at the top set to search all forums, especially if wild cards are used (are wild cards enabled? ...) or excessive refreshing. Searching an entire page might take a minute for a human, but basically, what i'm guessing is ... it searches the page by pulling each word (almost no time used to extract the word) and searching for an ad for that word, which is a very fast lookup (problably O lg n or even n, depending on the implementation) and it only has to do that for every word. Now, this might sound like a lot, but when you consider how fast it can load it already, and it already has to load every word on the page somehow (how else would it get rendered? :P) it shouldn't ad barely any time to the page generation.

 

 

 

Something to pay attention to is "Page Generation Time: 1.07868 seconds, SQL queries : 10" at the bottom.

 

High generation times with high numbers of queries is normal. High times with low amounts of queries isn't good at all. THAT indicates a problem. Now, each forum is different, I haven't tracked the numbers for this forum, but if you look at those enough it will be able to tell you if the forum itself is lagging or if it might be something in between you and the forum.