Well last night while I was working on smelting my 25k steel bars I was thinking... What is it about autoers that makes them such a big problem? It is how easy it is to just make another account and set it up and "Poof" there another autoer in the world ruining our lives.

 

 

 

Possible Solutions

 

 

 

Well first off we Jagex could always remove the ability to make Runescape accounts.... Thats stupid....

 

 

 

They can continue what they are doing now. They problem with that is the come back faster than they can get rid of them so it is not working.

 

 

 

They could make a reward for every autoer you report. Just something simple like 500gp. It could work, but it would mess up the economy quite a bit.

 

 

 

My Idea

 

 

 

Seeing as how all of the solutions above are not viable solutions to the problem something new needs to happen.

 

 

 

The first thing they need to do is add a simple cookie(or something esle to identify you other than an IP) that installs into your computer when you when all the other cookies to play install from then on it would be easier to discern a true new account from a second, third...ect account. Then Jagex needs to do is add a portion for when you register a new account. That it asks if this is your first account.

 

 

 

If you answer Yes:

 

 

 

Then they would do a very quick check of your computers cookies to check if you had ever played before. If it pulled up "No" then you could continue on with the registration process. But if it came up with "yes" then you would be transfered to if you answered that you already had an account.

 

 

 

If you answer No:

 

 

 

Then a log in screen would pop up and you would log in to your other account as if you were taking one of the polls. So then after that the accounts would be quote "linked together". By linked together I mean that if one was banned by one of the "unforgivable bans" then they would all be banned, and that would end a chain of autoers/real world traders.

 

 

 

From there the chain of new autoers into the game would stop because of all the accounts being chained together. Then the only problem would be getting rid of the ones in the game before this came out which would not take very long because they could not continue to come back.

 

 

 

Problems with this Method

 

 

 

Problem #1

 

 

And also, i dont think I would want a cookie installed on my computer..jaGEx is a trustworthy company, but someone can hack the cookie and find tons of info about me that i dont want known and stuff..

 

Possible Fix

 

None at the moment.

 

 

 

Problem #2

 

problem is that these botters have made a RuneScape Client of there own.

 

 

 

Possible Fix

 

Jagex needs to change there codeing alot. and keep it updated on changeing. its about the only way to fight off botters.

 

 

 

Final Notes

 

 

 

Sorry if this is a little vague right now. Ill add more soon along with the needed formating.

 

 

 

I just wanted to get your input before I spent hours getting it too look good with out any approval for you all.

By linked together I mean that if one was banned by one of the "unforgivable bans" then they would all be banned,

 

 

 

Wouldnt that be like IP banning? If it is, then it wouldnt work..as the autoers im sure have dynamic IPs...

 

 

 

And also, i dont think I would want a cookie installed on my computer..jaGEx is a trustworthy company, but someone can hack the cookie and find tons of info about me that i dont want known and stuff..

 

 

 

 

 

Overall, I love the idea, i just think that some of the things may not work.

problem is that these botters have made a RuneScape Client of there own.

 

 

 

thay have the bot built in the game. they only update the RS IP and connections to server. and rarely update game content. only if its helps there botting needs then thay update. but then have to recode the thing to make the bot work again.

 

 

 

jagex has done it before tho. any person login on a forean server was on a World called X. and 1000s of players where banned for bing on would X

 

that was [Caution: Jagex Rule Violation] back then. i seen like 12 ppl on my list on that server. and all 12 never login again.

 

 

 

Jagex needs to change there codeing alot. and keep it updated on changeing. its about the only way to fight off botters.

Ya I know there are problems but im sure that the smmart people of the TIF can find a way to solve them.

 

 

 

And about the cookies Jagex does use cookies. Without them you could not play. I know that from experience. Because if your computer does not accept cookies then it will give you a message that you can not play with out the ability to use cookies. (Sorry about rambling)

 

 

 

But any ways it is not like the IP ban becuase the cookies is installed to the computer and with that it would not matter what IP they used. And with that I'm really doubting that someone would buy lots of computers just to make money off of a game.

 

 

 

Thanks a lot for you input!

 

And for being the first post.

 

 

 

EDIT ~ PhaQuAll that is some interesting information...

To be honest I don't know a lot about computers, but what if I should use a proxy and straigth after every log in and out simply remove the cookies I did get from runescape? :roll: Btw maybe it sounds weird, but I thought Jagex did chainge the world connections allready sometimes, to prevent making it possible to log in to world 1 or 2 along a illigal way. Nevertheless I should love it if it works. :D :wink: :)

I guess that is where hidden cookies come in. But I'm sure there is a way to script them to where they can not be deleted..... :-w

Or people could just always say 'no'..

 

 

 

Heck, if they wanted to know which accounts are mine, they should trace my IP-adress. Although I do not own a second account :D But they have my IP-adress, so they can simply IP-ban me. Doesn't always work, but would you really think that autoers would 'link' their autoer to their main? Seriously, would you?

But they would have to link it to an account they had because they would have to log in to make it. So then it would end all future autoers... though it would not stop the current ones....yet.

 

 

 

 

 

Also remember 99% of the time we are talking about the average 'scaper.... IQ equaling around 10. :-w

I like it, but can't you clear cookies?

stupid idee...

 

1. i hate cookies!

 

2. you can easyly delete them!

 

3. the cookies arnt on every pc you play on!

 

4. i dont see it why itr would stop macroers!

Hey thanks for the flame. :D I'm not joking either. Because it is easier to find problems in things if you say exactly what you mean upfront. So thanks.

 

 

 

But anyways it does not have to be a cookie....

 

It could just be the computers ID number. Don't

 

even try saying that the computer ID is the same as the IP...because it is not. If you much about networking then you know that each computer as soon as it leaves the factory is assigned a special ID number which is then use for many different identification purposes.

 

 

 

Like I said in my post the idea is a little rough right now and needs some polishing.

 

 

 

Anymore comments to make this better?

 

 

 

PS try playing RS with cookies turned off and you will see what I mean by you have to have cookies.

Ugh, I hate putting down these ideas, but it's not that simple!

 

 

 

Simple ways to get around this... Delete your cookies... :? ... Once the game is running, it doesn't need a cookie anymore... Therefore you can delete them and begin a new session while still on... Jagex does something like what you're talking about with UIDs, but those can still be deleted...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pic of what I'm talking about cookie wise:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the UID Jagex uses as well as the location:

 

 

 

 

^That can easily be deleted and that forces a new one to be made.

 

 

 

(goes along with your "It could just be the computers ID number" thing)

Ugh, I hate putting down these ideas, but it's not that simple!

 

 

 

Simple ways to get around this... Delete your cookies... :? ... Once the game is running, it doesn't need a cookie anymore... Therefore you can delete them and begin a new session while still on... Jagex does something like what you're talking about with UIDs, but those can still be deleted...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pic of what I'm talking about cookie wise:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the UID Jagex uses as well as the location:

 

 

 

 

^That can easily be deleted and that forces a new one to be made.

 

 

 

(goes along with your "It could just be the computers ID number" thing)

 

 

 

 

 

could you not just make a new .dat file so that jagex couldn't put one in your computer and not get banned as easily?

Well... I guess you could try... But I'm sure when Jagex doesn't recognize the .dat that is there, they know something is up and your computer would most likely be monitored... I don't recommend trying regardless the outcome

Like said in the post above it does not have to be a cookie.

 

 

 

Thanks for the incite.

I realize that I'm nit-picking here, but offering a monetary reward for every autoer banned may not be such a good idea :? Because

 

 

 

1) Most people report bots because they hate them and want them gone.

 

 

 

2) N00bs (I don't like that word but it's appropriate here) would report everything like crazy in hope they get the money.

 

 

 

3) Jagex would have to dispense even more money into the already de-flating economy.

 

 

 

So basically it wouldn't encourage people to ban any more actual autoers, just spam reports.

Jagex does this already. Search for any files called uid.dat on your computer. It doesn't work because macroers can delete it regularly, or have separate uids that they use for macroing and playing on their main.

Here's a possible outcome of this *ahem* " Bobby goes over to Jims house and end up playing runescape with a few other friends they all joke about each others accounts and compare stats and banks" A week later all accounts are banned :ohnoes: , apparently Jim's younger brother had tried a macroe program one day. Oh no! :boohoo:

 

 

 

Basically it would prevent people from safely going to somewhere else and playing or sharing a computer with family.

Here's a possible outcome of this *ahem* " Bobby goes over to Jims house and end up playing runescape with a few other friends they all joke about each others accounts and compare stats and banks" A week later all accounts are banned :ohnoes: , apparently Jim's younger brother had tried a macroe program one day. Oh no! :boohoo:

 

 

 

Basically it would prevent people from safely going to somewhere else and playing or sharing a computer with family.

 

 

 

 

 

and that is what ppl risk... you play on another PC that has hacks cheats ect. you should be banned... even if you did not know about them.. alway think before acting. every thing has risk. dont alway take them. stay home live longer :P

 

 

 

Jagex needs to take some cold hearted steps. even if its loseing members over it. alot of these anti macro/bot ppl are in fact macro/botters there self

 

even the number 1 person in runescape was a botter/macroer. and even a char sharer. his whole famly use that char. how i know this. well he/she/famliy was on my list. i trade gems with them. and moreless being number 1 means nothing. alot of us remeber the first ranked 1s. like bluerose, Mr Oldfield ect. not many knew blue was first to ever max BS

 

and Mr Oldfields was about the nicest player around. TKS and Lightning where coo to :P . even tho thats not even the begaining...

 

 

 

there are some liget lvl 99 max ppl out there. but not all of them can say thay never macroed. even back in the old days many deffended macroing. said it was because thay had reallife problems. that alot of clicking was doing them harm. so Jagex has over the years made the game easyer. built in bots. to easy the pain.

 

 

 

in these pass 7 years runescape has gotten 10x easyer to lvl in.

 

 

 

it took me 2 years to get to 102 on RSC and i gain 12 lvl on RS2.

 

i also made another char on rs 2. took me 1 month or less to get 81

 

i also had old rs char.. but i keep them to my self :-w

 

 

 

and now we get to the day we are in. its time to say NO. its time to lay down the law. take no BS from anyone. let no flame or down sides stand in the way. Botting and macroing should fall.

 

 

 

some one has posted this on rs main forms.

 

 

 

Lock down the game. no more accout

 

 

 

players/mod/admin/every body banned/report botters / macroer.

 

then RS/Jagex come up with a good system...

 

 

 

and Paul that pick axes and pink skirt thing dont work anymore. no need to click pick axes :P

If you read the main part of the post chase_cool7 you would notice that they would only be connected together if they all made there accounts on the same computer... not just by playing on it.

 

 

 

Hope that answers your concern.

But then if they're all "linked together", then if an innocent players account is unfairly banned, any pures, skillers, or anything would also be banned, as well as their sibling's accounts.

 

 

 

You could make it so that all the accounts are banned just if the offense was macroing (or advertising).