runescape solo client

[Guest]

ok whats runescape solo client???

 

 

 

well we all seen these botters lately. and what dose solo client have to do with this???

 

 

 

ok to the point. i have seen how all these programs work. i will not explain tho. but will tell you the end of them. it is so easy to end them all.. forever!

 

 

 

i am just hopeing 1 day Jagex will try this out...

 

 

 

1st thing! if you want to play RS you must not be running any programs that interact with runescape. if so game will detect this and log you out. also send a info report to jagex on what program was running and why you where booted.

 

 

 

you must accept these things before you play RuneScape on your pc/or any PC!

 

 

 

5 sec logout timer if mouse leaves game window.

 

using aim and *** can be done offline! vent tho has keys to press and chat.

 

 

 

runescape with bot watcher. looks and is always updated by players summiting of programs that are demmed to be bots/macros. after around 50 player summiting it. it can no longer load when RS is running. game will update every time its loaded. Mods/dev/admins can only activate these as bot/macro after player summitions have been met.

 

 

 

Runescape Info gather!

 

will record any file that is loaded or ran with runescape that is forean to the game. if file is ran more then 5 times it will recored data and report to jagex. only files that interact with Jagex game client will be recored and reported.

 

 

 

is this spyware?? no jagex has a right to know if copyright laws are being broken. that also gose with rules. this also will send any char info you have ever made to Jagex.

 

 

 

me posting this dose not give botters and upper hand. it scares them more then anything.

 

 

 

the new bots are not bots tho. there just face overs. easly dealt with. there nothing like the client bots that got many banned... and i think jagex fix them for good.

 

 

 

lastly jagex knows how these are running and i hope thay have a iron clad system comeing out.

 

 

 

this will stop bots 100% + macro 100%

 

bypass this system??? likely but alot of work put in to a bypass

 

but thats where player report comes in to play. (macro/bot block)

 

 

 

see i dont care if 100 ppl are cheating.. but when its by the 100000s thats another story.. it mess up the game and the moods of are fellow players.

 

 

 

what do you think.

[tomdavies90]

This sounds like it could work, all except the 5 second thing, thats just stupid, you realise bots dont even have to click outside the screen...they load up their program log on, click on run and tadaa...they ould be off the screen for about 2 seconds. It's just a stupid rule, imagine, your training your watching your player hitting you take your eye off the mouse, oops you get logged off!

[Guest]

ya that 5 sec thing might be bit much the player report program and the auto detect system would solve that...

[Iamdan]

 

5 sec logout timer if mouse leaves game window.

 

using aim and *** can be done offline! vent tho has keys to press and chat.

 

 

 

Stupid idea and won't do anything to stop macroers.

 

 

 

runescape with bot watcher. looks and is always updated by players summiting of programs that are demmed to be bots/macros. after around 50 player summiting it. it can no longer load when RS is running. game will update every time its loaded. Mods/dev/admins can only activate these as bot/macro after player summitions have been met.

 

 

 

Firstly how is JaGeX supposed to stop macroers opening a program? Or even detect when somebody opens a program? It is illegal.

 

 

 

Runescape Info gather!

 

will record any file that is loaded or ran with runescape that is forean to the game. if file is ran more then 5 times it will recored data and report to jagex. only files that interact with Jagex game client will be recored and reported.

 

 

 

Again this is illegal.

 

 

 

is this spyware?? no jagex has a right to know if copyright laws are being broken. that also gose with rules. this also will send any char info you have ever made to Jagex.

 

 

 

JaGeX has no right to know what you do with your computer.

 

 

 

me posting this dose not give botters and upper hand. it scares them more then anything.

 

 

 

Scares them? Good one.

 

 

 

the new bots are not bots tho. there just face overs. easly dealt with. there nothing like the client bots that got many banned... and i think jagex fix them for good.

 

 

 

JaGeX can already detect client hacked bots on login, which is why most macroers use colour clickers or java bots using event hooks and injection with BCEL rather than editing the client.

 

 

 

lastly jagex knows how these are running and i hope thay have a iron clad system comeing out.

 

 

 

Anyone with any knowledge of Java knows how client hacked bots are running, and anybody with any kind common sense knows at least basically how colour clickers run.

 

 

 

this will stop bots 100% + macro 100%

 

bypass this system??? likely but alot of work put in to a bypass

 

but thats where player report comes in to play. (macro/bot block)

 

 

 

It won't stop them. Even if it wasn't illegal it isn't hard to change the process name of a program. They could change the process name of the macro to windows media player or something.

 

 

 

what do you think.

 

 

 

I think you need to do a little more research.

[Guest]

and i have done it. you may shoot down what you can. but do you have proof for any of it. i do. and i do know how to program in java VB6 and C++, i have also helped make anti hack/macro systems in games.

 

 

 

i learn from the macro/bot sites. i know there code. its not much diffent from c++ to VB. just useing there own strings. about 100x easyer tho. someone with little xp could do it. but thats not are problem. its the pree made code. thats ppl with not much codeing skills are useing. not 100% error proof tho. but it logs them out on errors... so hard to get them staying logged on.

 

 

 

also this is not done in Java! its purely a face over program. realy you cant even call it a bot. its just a macro... alot smarter then your normal macro tho. it handles events on a fly or in a timely manner.

 

 

 

i am not trying to give much away on what it is where its at.

 

 

 

now there are bots in the game. but there web bots. alost of the accouts are logged in from a server. 100s of them all at once. the whole thing is driven by 1 program. it loads and lanch 100s of accouts that all login to runescape. opening sockets for each accout to keep it logged in. pree recored macros keeping each one in play. reading data fields of the game map to know if or if nots and to try else if not. or relog and try agian.

 

 

 

its like a major worm in runescape....

 

 

 

these ppl are doing the for real life money. most of them. paying 5 US a month for 100 accouts to make 10x on sales of RS gold to real money is more worth it to them. these people dont live off runescape. theres about 20 other games they do the same. SilkRoad online being 1 of them.

 

 

 

easyer way of seeing it. these bots in game are about the same as any NPC in the game... there programed to do what a human told them to do. just they dont chat with us or help us with quest. or give us xp....

 

 

 

i hope that helped explain a bit more...

[Zonorhc]

Can someone translate what he's saying for me?

 

 

 

Sounds like he's throwing a lot of jargon around to make himself sound like a programmer, but I'm having a hard time believing him.

 

 

 

Because, you know, this is the internet. I could just as easily claim that I am a rocket surgeon, because there's no way you people would know otherwise.

[Omali]

 

Runescape Info gather!

 

will record any file that is loaded or ran with runescape that is forean to the game. if file is ran more then 5 times it will recored data and report to jagex. only files that interact with Jagex game client will be recored and reported.

 

 

 

Again this is illegal.

 

 

 

 

Actually, it's not illegal. Don't believe me? Check out a program called Steam, run by a company called Valve. Valve implemented VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) a few years ago. What does it do? It scans your running processes, as well as checking for consistency in certain .dll files, and also any program that hooks into the game's engine. If any of those are detected as being/using cheats, you will get banned from their games, and not just the game you cheated on, all of them.

 

 

 

It's perfectly legal.

[Omar]

Can someone translate what he's saying for me?

 

 

 

Sounds like he's throwing a lot of jargon around to make himself sound like a programmer, but I'm having a hard time believing him.

 

 

 

Because, you know, this is the internet. I could just as easily claim that I am a rocket surgeon, because there's no way you people would know otherwise.

 

Sounds like it to me. I have a headache. Oh, and look at his name: PhaQuAll.

 

Close to PhuQuAll, if you ask me; doesn't look like what a Java programmer would choose as a username huh?

[Guest]

Never said i knew it all. Said i know how to use other programs. And I am not throwing things around. And ones Char name has nothing to do with what he or she my know...

 

 

 

 

 

//record info

public java.lang.Object{

public java.lang.String getRecordDescription()

 clone in class java.lang.Object{

setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE);

}

 }

 

 

 

i did not add alot. much much more that could help. few ideas on what could help. dont even work if it was compiled. missing alot of codeing.

 

 

 

what it would do is recored what program was being loaded and then shut down is it was a bot or macro..

[llcoolguy972]

 

Runescape Info gather!

 

will record any file that is loaded or ran with runescape that is forean to the game. if file is ran more then 5 times it will recored data and report to jagex. only files that interact with Jagex game client will be recored and reported.

 

 

 

Again this is illegal.

 

 

 

 

Actually, it's not illegal. Don't believe me? Check out a program called Steam, run by a company called Valve. Valve implemented VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) a few years ago. What does it do? It scans your running processes, as well as checking for consistency in certain .dll files, and also any program that hooks into the game's engine. If any of those are detected as being/using cheats, you will get banned from their games, and not just the game you cheated on, all of them.

 

 

 

It's perfectly legal.

 

 

 

Just because someone's done it before doesn't make it legal.

[Iamdan]

and i have done it. you may shoot down what you can. but do you have proof for any of it. i do. and i do know how to program in java VB6 and C++, i have also helped make anti hack/macro systems in games.

 

 

 

So are you saying that process monitoring is not illegal?

 

 

 

 

 

i learn from the macro/bot sites. i know there code. its not much diffent from c++ to VB. just useing there own strings. about 100x easyer tho. someone with little xp could do it. but thats not are problem. its the pree made code. thats ppl with not much codeing skills are useing. not 100% error proof tho. but it logs them out on errors... so hard to get them staying logged on.

 

 

 

There is only one "pre-made code" and it is called SRL, it is just methods for a colour clicker made in pascal. Not VB or C++.

 

 

 

 

 

now there are bots in the game. but there web bots. alost of the accouts are logged in from a server. 100s of them all at once. the whole thing is driven by 1 program. it loads and lanch 100s of accouts that all login to runescape. opening sockets for each accout to keep it logged in. pree recored macros keeping each one in play. reading data fields of the game map to know if or if nots and to try else if not. or relog and try agian.

 

 

 

its like a major worm in runescape....

 

 

 

No.... They are sweatshop workers.

 

 

 

these ppl are doing the for real life money. most of them. paying 5 US a month for 100 accouts to make 10x on sales of RS gold to real money is more worth it to them. these people dont live off runescape. theres about 20 other games they do the same. SilkRoad online being 1 of them.

 

 

 

What are you going on about? The level 3's in default clothing are sweatshop workers.

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it's not illegal. Don't believe me? Check out a program called Steam, run by a company called Valve. Valve implemented VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) a few years ago. What does it do? It scans your running processes, as well as checking for consistency in certain .dll files, and also any program that hooks into the game's engine. If any of those are detected as being/using cheats, you will get banned from their games, and not just the game you cheated on, all of them.

 

 

 

It's perfectly legal.

 

 

 

VAC works by detects changes to core system files, ([Caution: Executable File], .dll) not process monitoring. Since Runescape is a Java client, it cannot do the same thing.

 

JaGeX already can detect client hacked macros with a reflection system. JaGeX cannot however, detect any programs running on a players computer.

[drapit]

They can't detect what programs we're using besides runescape or someone'll sue them for infringing privacy laws.

[Zonorhc]

//record info

public java.lang.Object{

public java.lang.String getRecordDescription()

 clone in class java.lang.Object{

setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE);

}

 }

 

As far as I can tell, all that code fragment would achieve is close the program it runs as part of. For starters, it's assuming that the external process is Java-based.

 

 

 

what it would do is recored what program was being loaded and then shut down is it was a bot or macro..

 

And how would it know that without illegally monitoring your system processes? Furthermore, what is preventing it from shutting down legitimate programs with similar names to programs it "knows" about? And you know what, that sort of thing could actually come under the descriptor of malicious software.

 

 

 

Just remember, kids, this is the internet, I have a pet rhino, and nobody can prove me wrong, so hence it is true.

[NJE03]

Let me just say that if the 5 second logout timer was implemented, I would be quitting.

[PastyGangsta]

 

Runescape Info gather!

 

will record any file that is loaded or ran with runescape that is forean to the game. if file is ran more then 5 times it will recored data and report to jagex. only files that interact with Jagex game client will be recored and reported.

 

 

 

Again this is illegal.

 

 

 

 

Actually, it's not illegal. Don't believe me? Check out a program called Steam, run by a company called Valve. Valve implemented VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) a few years ago. What does it do? It scans your running processes, as well as checking for consistency in certain .dll files, and also any program that hooks into the game's engine. If any of those are detected as being/using cheats, you will get banned from their games, and not just the game you cheated on, all of them.

 

 

 

It's perfectly legal.

 

 

 

Hes right you know... I had Steam on here awhile ago but it got taken off when my hard disc cracked and I lost everything (stupid hardware failures... )

 

 

 

Its a cool program but it is scary how it seeps into your files with little or no trouble at all from your OS. :ohnoes:

 

 

 

Jagex would have to take the IDEA though and not the program because it wont work on Java as a running process. :-k

[Riptide Mage]

Do you not realize that java cannot do half the things you suggest? Maybe if runescape was written in vb6 or c++ it might have the abilities, but no, Runescape is a java applet, please read up better on things before you make suggestions. And actaully several macro programs now directly send data packets to the jagex servers, they dont even need to have runescape open.

[Iamdan]

 

Hes right you know... I had Steam on here awhile ago but it got taken off when my hard disc cracked and I lost everything (stupid hardware failures... )

 

 

 

Its a cool program but it is scary how it seeps into your files with little or no trouble at all from your OS. :ohnoes:

 

 

 

Jagex would have to take the IDEA though and not the program because it wont work on Java as a running process. :-k

 

 

 

Umm.... VAC does not monitor processes, it detects changes in the core files of valve's games.