J_Rod_The_Ti Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 who cares if ppl all ask the same things... thats the difference between a good creator and a noob.... i myself try to be as much original as possible , sometimes it doesnt works , sometimes it does. But its not someons fault that there are to many rangers and they al want the balck ranger sig... let them ask , its not you who needs to put it under ur post . You only get payed for noob things , sometimes i sell really nooby sigs because ppl ask for these things. The customer is king! bring on the cash baby! Original? That's why your sig is a cloud render + grunge border + picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomGuard Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 who cares if ppl all ask the same things... thats the difference between a good creator and a noob.... i myself try to be as much original as possible , sometimes it doesnt works , sometimes it does. But its not someons fault that there are to many rangers and they al want the balck ranger sig... let them ask , its not you who needs to put it under ur post . You only get payed for noob things , sometimes i sell really nooby sigs because ppl ask for these things. The customer is king! bring on the cash baby! Original? That's why your sig is a cloud render + grunge border + picture? ummm, its not a grunge border lol. Id say its a tech border :shock: and i totaly agree with him... A while ago, some guy showed me a pic on some website. He asked me to create a background, that was similar. It was just a dam gradient bg with some solor on it. I made it, he loved it, he paid me. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiphus Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 This has been something that has been going on for a while here, Razy_m8. What you have to be able to do, is distinguish the people who consider themselves designers, and the ones who consider themselves sigmakers. The designers you can tell off the bat; the people who are somewhat serious about the business and that will probably pursue something related to the field at a later date. But the latter, the "sigmakers" are the ones who just throw together a bunch of dog crap to make money in possibly one of the morst administrated MMORPG's ever (cheap shot, I know). Basically, the people who suck at this and throw stuff together aren't learning anything, and they probably never will. But you can't take them serious. Just ignore them and don't waste your time commenting on their work, unless of course you feel you can flame them bad enough to make them quit. Unfortunately, most of them have some resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooljoey Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 i'm seein so many people using filters and over brushing these premade brushes so much i swear im starting to see the same ones over and over again, its like almost every combination of filters and burshes possible have been used. so here, I offer you this advice... Be creative, lose the filters. stop using other people images in your work. You will nver get better using premade brushes, images, or filters for that fact... also try not to abuse the photshop stlyes. I can understand 1px stroke or drop shadow (to a certain extent) to make your images look clean but honestly, this is getting out of hand. thats why 3d stuff is unique :shock: :P :P hehe :oops: no kidding, i done pixel, abstract and 3d, i like 3d the most, but i gotta tell pixel isent just brushing and stuff... its very hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastpak Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 who cares if ppl all ask the same things... thats the difference between a good creator and a noob.... i myself try to be as much original as possible , sometimes it doesnt works , sometimes it does. But its not someons fault that there are to many rangers and they al want the balck ranger sig... let them ask , its not you who needs to put it under ur post . You only get payed for noob things , sometimes i sell really nooby sigs because ppl ask for these things. The customer is king! bring on the cash baby! Original? That's why your sig is a cloud render + grunge border + picture? well , i like the effect tho , doesnt matter how easy it is . Im gonna change it anyway to a newer sig. This one is a pretty old one tbh, did it fast to. :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 This has been something that has been going on for a while here, Razy_m8. What you have to be able to do, is distinguish the people who consider themselves designers, and the ones who consider themselves sigmakers. The designers you can tell off the bat; the people who are somewhat serious about the business and that will probably pursue something related to the field at a later date. But the latter, the "sigmakers" are the ones who just throw together a bunch of dog crap to make money in possibly one of the morst administrated MMORPG's ever (cheap shot, I know). Basically, the people who suck at this and throw stuff together aren't learning anything, and they probably never will. But you can't take them serious. Just ignore them and don't waste your time commenting on their work, unless of course you feel you can flame them bad enough to make them quit. Unfortunately, most of them have some resolve. Yeah, like with the swril of grunge sigs and stuff around here, they are basicly just a swirl of abstracts and brushes mixed together, with no thought at all put into them. I do know i'm going to pursue a graphics related career in the future so i'm trying as many styles as possible. And yes, like Ryan said we just have to live with it. There will always be noobs or people who realy don't know what their doing, and we just have to get used to it, or even better, help them become better. however that becomes hard because some people are realy ignorant and wont listen :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NACHO Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 This has been something that has been going on for a while here, Razy_m8. What you have to be able to do, is distinguish the people who consider themselves designers, and the ones who consider themselves sigmakers. The designers you can tell off the bat; the people who are somewhat serious about the business and that will probably pursue something related to the field at a later date. But the latter, the "sigmakers" are the ones who just throw together a bunch of dog crap to make money in possibly one of the morst administrated MMORPG's ever (cheap shot, I know). Basically, the people who suck at this and throw stuff together aren't learning anything, and they probably never will. But you can't take them serious. Just ignore them and don't waste your time commenting on their work, unless of course you feel you can flame them bad enough to make them quit. Unfortunately, most of them have some resolve. Yeah, like with the swril of grunge sigs and stuff around here, they are basicly just a swirl of abstracts and brushes mixed together, with no thought at all put into them. I do know i'm going to pursue a graphics related career in the future so i'm trying as many styles as possible. And yes, like Ryan said we just have to live with it. There will always be noobs or people who realy don't know what their doing, and we just have to get used to it, or even better, help them become better. however that becomes hard because some people are realy ignorant and wont listen :) Well, i might be bad at sig making right now, but i'm trying to learn because i do plan to pursue a career in CG and animation. When i do pixels, i just do that for gp. I do 3d for fun and practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Rod_The_Ti Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I'd make more well designed sigs if perhaps I had a better prog. Right now PSP8 just doesn't do it for me. It's very limited to what you can do, but atleast it allows me to stray away from using cloud renders.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NACHO Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 i don't think i've used cloud renders in a long time. i think they are too overused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Rod_The_Ti Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I can't use them because PSP doesn't have them. I'm so happy for that too that's the one thing I like about PSP no pre-made renders. It seperates the n00bs from the.. not n00bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttia Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 speaking of resolve, nadril is the king of resolve! lol Witty and others tried to kill him off for years! For the guy who thought ps is just for editing...go check out this link....all concept paintings done in ps7 for the video game prince of persia warrior within.... http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35044 Not to mention the photorealistic paintings of people, etc. that were mentioned earlier. ps is probably THE most used program for digital painting. (painter is up there, but just not as many have it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razy_m8 Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 I leave these final words: those interested in becoming designers not money makers. visit design forums and ask for advice. be prepaired to leave your old styles behind and take your creativity to its limits. as much as you may hate selecting a brush it's neccesary, and im not talking those premade brushes either. As much as those filters do for you. (work wise) it's not what clients want and after you realise that, it wont be what you want either. If your in design for pleasure, like myself it becomes alot easier. dodge and burn tools are a great tool to use, they can really provide your image the kick it needs. no images is perfect, any image can be better then it is. realise this and you'll really learn alot quicker. that is some of the advice i can offer you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomGuard Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 just a quick remarque here... i dont think clients are interested in HOW you make there images ( or however u wanna call it ). They just wanna have the result, thats what they pay you to do. And offcourse, originality is essential. I myself am planning a career in Multimedia ( as in GFX design or CG ). And yeah, i use premade stuff sometimes, but i also try to make new things and not to use the same all the time. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabraulter Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 And there's misterxman those you had only 2 words they're actually profound, pixel sigs can become redundant with all these people wanting the same old "Guy in black dragon armour, robin hood hat, and shooting a guy in full rune" But for those of us who only make pixels when the request is unique like Mr. X it does give meaning to it. i second that. i will NEVER do a guy in black drag shooting a full runer. even it if WAS for 5mil. (ok maybe....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcomet32 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 yeah im wit misterxman and jab also, everyone has them cmon ppl be creative u get lots cooler sigs :) thanks to Etexbleu for the sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 speaking of resolve, nadril is the king of resolve! lol Witty and others tried to kill him off for years! For the guy who thought ps is just for editing...go check out this link....all concept paintings done in ps7 for the video game prince of persia warrior within.... http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35044 Not to mention the photorealistic paintings of people, etc. that were mentioned earlier. ps is probably THE most used program for digital painting. (painter is up there, but just not as many have it). :lol: :lol: Yeah, i've had a lot of stuff in my past of sig making, lol. But at least i'm to where i am now, and still learning each day :oops: :lol: And btw, you know the space scenes i do (following along the ps is only for editing thing) Well i do those 100% photoshop, well except for maybe planet textures and what not :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I used to make sigs only for the money, but now I just draw because I like to. I'd still appreciate it more if people stopped referencing their requests to games, though; it does get a little restrictive on what an artist can create. "Full Rune with kite shield and scimitar" only goes so far when I try to make realistic equipment. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auicroa Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 its not as good because we dont have the following pixel artists making sigs anymore: Axe Raider70 Quer Skull Your Mother Poseidion those were my choices they made REALLY GOOD SIGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 its not as good because we dont have the following pixel artists making sigs anymore: Axe Raider70 Quer Skull Your Mother Poseidion those were my choices they made REALLY GOOD SIGS Axe = too cartoony sigs for my taste, and seemed a bit on the plain side. The others were very good though. but still, alot of their pixels related to runescape (well of course) but i never saw them realy try anthing bigger. I'd love to see some "big" art pixel peices around here :) And yeah, i used to do that too Zon, but now i realy won't even consider a custom request unless its 500k+ or i need cash :P . usualy i just sell premades now, or enter contests that i feel could be fun. However, and another thing that has realy ticked me off, is that the last few contests i've been in i've gotten beat by sigs that realy took no effort at all, and didn't even look good. Like that 1mil competion for anarchy, the sig he chose was...eww :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran_Shadow2 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 everybodys gotta start somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 its not as good because we dont have the following pixel artists making sigs anymore: Axe Raider70 Quer Skull Your Mother Poseidion those were my choices they made REALLY GOOD SIGS .... :? ....No more like we don' thave people like Zimlem (although she kinda returned), Lan Hikari, and The Jeppoz actively making sigs. Axe and Poseidon aren't very good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 its not as good because we dont have the following pixel artists making sigs anymore: Axe Raider70 Quer Skull Your Mother Poseidion those were my choices they made REALLY GOOD SIGS .... :? ....No more like we don' thave people like Zimlem (although he kinda returned), Lan Hikari, and The Jeppoz actively making sigs. Axe and Poseidon aren't very good... Zim's a she :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTSnyper Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 People need to realize the nature of sig design. Sig design is made for designers to be a SHORTCUT for money making. If they have skill, sig makers can spend a few hours of work making the GP that would take them days on RS to make. If sigs were made by dedicated people who spend DAYS, even WEEKS on their sigs just like artists spend on their art, then the prices would either be WAY higher or they just wouldn't find it worthwhile to sell them! Hard work is spent for good money, PERIOD. Medium prices are given to those who spend probably a couple hours doing mediocre jobs. That's the nature of the beasts. Designers realize this and they retreat to real design forums (later getting their art ripped by the mediocre sig makers). It's stupid, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatsilverwyrm Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Nice job stereotyping, assuming, inferring, and not listening to anything anyone has said.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Nice job stereotyping, assuming, inferring, and not listening to anything anyone has said.. Woot, congratz UT :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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