~*~ The N.B.A & N.H.L Discussion Thread ~*~

[martinisback]

Poll # 1: The Majority of the People Think Boston & Minnesotia got the better of the blockbuster deal

 

 

 

Poll # 2: Most people Predict Memphis Grizzles will be the worst team in the Nba -in the - 07/08 season.

 

 

 

Poll # 3 Question: Most People Believe New Jersey Or Boston will win the Atlantic.

 

 

 

 

 

Hello,

 

 

 

I have created this thread to bring the biggest and best Nba Fans here to discuss and debate! On this thread talk about all Nba related info! From Trades, Signings, to Retirement or Injuries!

 

 

 

Also..What postions do you think the teams will stand out this year?

 

 

 

My predictions:

 

 

 

Eastern Conference:

 

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1.Detriot Pistions

 

2.New Jersey Nets

 

3.Miami Heat

 

4.Cleveland Cavilaiers

 

5.Boston Celtics

 

6.Wasington Wizards

 

7.Toronto Rapters

 

8.Chicago Bulls

 

9.Orlando Magic

 

10.New York Knicks

 

11.Phillidelphia 76ers

 

12.Indinia Pacers

 

13.Charolette Bobcats

 

14.Atlanta Hawks

 

15.Milawakue Bucks

 

 

 

-> The Eastern Conference this year will be MUCH better then the West. For the past decade or so, the West has totally dominated the Eastern Conference. Meanwhile, the Atlantic Division, who the last 1-2 years were known as the worst, have gotten way better. As Kevin Garnett, Jason Richardson, Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Zach Randolph enter our Conference, we have finally been the better of the two sides. I think the Atlantic Division this year has a chance of all their teams making it, its tough though but I had to put the Knicks outside of the picture. I am a New Jersey Nets fan by the way:P

 

 

 

WESTERN CONFERENCE

 

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1. Phoneix Suns

 

2. Dallas Mavericks

 

3. San Antionio Spurs

 

4. Denver Nuggets

 

5. Golden State Warriors

 

6. Houston Rockets

 

7. Utah Jazz

 

8. New Orleans Hornets

 

9. Los Angeles Lakers

 

10.Portland Trailblazers

 

11.Sacremento Kings

 

12. Minniesotia-TimberWolves

 

13. Seattle Supersonics

 

14. Los Angeles Clippers

 

15. Memphis Grizzles

 

 

 

*Bold= Make Playoffs *

 

 

 

-> The West this year seems to be a lot weaker, and I don't see the standings changing must from last year. I think the Hornets will get better with their future players, and the new additions of Mo-Pete. This also might be a Lakers year of no playoffs, in my mind, it's tough though. I don't think any of the top 2 draft picks will be in the playofs(portland,seattle) their teams around them are just to weak, and it's just their rookie seasons. I'm sure in 2-3 years they'll be up their.

 

 

 

Now, what do you guys think the standings will be? Guess!:P

 

 

 

Martin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eastern Conference

 

 

 

1. Ottawa Sentators

 

2. Pittsburgh Peguins

 

3. New York Rangers

 

4. New Jersey Devils

 

5. Buffalo Sabers

 

6. Tampa Bay Lightning

 

7. Toronto Maple Leafs

 

8. Phillidelphia Flyers

 

9. Washington Capitals

 

10. Flordia Panthers

 

11. Atlanta Thrashers

 

12. Montreal Candiens

 

13. New York Islanders

 

14. Carolina Hurricanes

 

15. Boston Bruins

 

 

 

Summary: I think the Sens year has come. I predict they will lead their conference, with an improving Emery, and still with the big 3. Toronto and Philly I expect to make playoffs this year. Boston Bruins will be the worst team in my mind, their team is getting weaker every day

 

 

 

Western Conference

 

 

 

1. Detriot Red Wings

 

2. Anahiem Mighty Ducks

 

3. San Jose Sharks

 

4. Vancover Canucks

 

5. Colorado Avalanche

 

6. Calgary Flames

 

7. Edmonton Oilers

 

8. Minnesotia Wild

 

9. Dallas Stars

 

10. Nashville Predators

 

11. Chicago Blackhawks

 

12. St. Louis Blues

 

13. Los Angeles Kings

 

14. Phoneix Coyatoes

 

15. Colombus Blue Jackets

 

 

 

I predict Wings will only get better this year, and stay on top the West/League. The new addition in Rafalski is a big booster to their lineup. Edmonton, and Colorado will make the playoffs this year unlike last year. Edmontons additions in Souray&Piktanten&Penner will be big, and the Avalnche addition in Ryan Smith is key. Nashville will fall this year, and so will the Stars.

 

 

 

~*~ Who do you think will be the Top 8 in each conference? ~*~

[look_its_rob]

how are you gonna put celts all the way down at 5... they are a top two team now with kg.

 

 

 

i say pistions

 

celts

 

nets

 

cavs

 

wizards

 

heat

 

bulls

 

rapters

[martinisback]

how are you gonna put celts all the way down at 5... they are a top two team now with kg.

 

 

 

i say pistions

 

celts

 

nets

 

cavs

 

wizards

 

heat

 

bulls

 

rapters

 

 

 

just edited: My Outlook: I think this is a good trade for both teams. Boston will definetly improve, however even though they have 3 superstars, and that they will make the playoffs, I don't believe their Champion contenders yet. Their Bench is very weak. Also they have 2 spots that will be filled on the starting lineup with basic no namers. Their Bench won't get more then 10-15 points a game, which cannot win a title. I do believe they are a 4th-7th team this year, and will improve big time.

 

 

 

Minnesotia meanwhile, let go of a player that has wanted to leave the past few years. And in return, i believe got a very nice package, and the future lies on them. Al Jefferson, who will be a future all-star, is only going to improve, along with the other 2 young players they have recieved. Theo Ratliff, if he can regain his touch, who had always been an amazing shotblocker, can be good if healthy for the team.

[superson]

I don't follow basketball, but it doesn't seem to make sense that 16 out of 30 teams make the playoffs...

 

 

 

Playoffs are supposed to be for the elite, not the mediocre.

[martinisback]

well, same thing goes for nhl.

 

 

 

However, 16 teams make it but ur saying their "elite" so they make ..

 

 

 

1 seed verus - 8

 

2 seed versus -7

 

3 seed verses-6

 

4 seed versuses-5

 

 

 

So if you are good in the season, you face a worse oppenent. Some teams do mess up their season because the playoffs, like this years dallas mavericks who had a record that was like 69-13 or something, and faced a team with a record of like 41-41= and then 69-13 lost-.-

[wild_goat_14]

well, same thing goes for nhl.

 

 

 

However, 16 teams make it but ur saying their "elite" so they make ..

 

 

 

1 seed verus - 8

 

2 seed versus -7

 

3 seed verses-6

 

4 seed versuses-5

 

 

 

So if you are good in the season, you face a worse oppenent. Some teams do mess up their season because the playoffs, like this years dallas mavericks who had a record that was like 69-13 or something, and faced a team with a record of like 41-41= and then 69-13 lost-.-

 

 

 

The way they played they deserved to lose.

[martinisback]

yeah, true.

 

 

 

Also, you gotta give credit the warriors. The way they played, was a pleasure to just watch

[Poopingman]

Lots of changes in store for next season, should be very entertaining. Especially to see how Boston turns it around.

[kido14]

Shaq rapping:

 

 

Quite funny

 

 

 

Anyways I used to like the NBA a lot when the Charlotte Hornets used to be in my state when I was in like middle/elementary school, but I stopped being much of a fan of basketball until a few years ago, only to find my beloved Hornets moved to New Orleans

[azntemplar_00]

I think this might be the season the Rockets actually get past the first round. You've still got the combo of Yao and Tracy, but now you have Battier and Scola to fill in the gaps. Only problem is PG, where we have a selection nightmare. Oh and Mutumbo a year older too lol

[bartoron]

Even with the Celtics getting Ray Allen and KG, the East isn't going to be better than the West. The Bobcats getting Jason Richardson isn't going to be enough to get them a winning record and the Knicks (unfortunately) are going to screw everything up like usual. Did getting Zach Randolph really help? It's going to be hard to make room for Randolph and David Lee to start at the same time. David Lee is a very underrated player and it's a real shame that he only started 12 games last season. How is it that a guy who averages a double-double can't even be a starter? Jared Jefferies, Malik Rose, and Jerome James are all useless and only eat away at the Knicks' incredibly high payroll. :(

 

 

 

Here's what I would see as an ideal starting lineup:

 

 

 

Point Guard - Stephon Marbury

 

Shooting Guard - Jamal Crawford

 

Small Forward - David Lee

 

Power Forward - Zach Randolph

 

Center - Eddy Curry

[martinisback]

I think this might be the season the Rockets actually get past the first round. You've still got the combo of Yao and Tracy, but now you have Battier and Scola to fill in the gaps. Only problem is PG, where we have a selection nightmare. Oh and Mutumbo a year older too lol

 

 

 

lol! Mutombo, haha he used to be on my nets he's halrious. I rememberl ike at press conferences how he talks, lmfao its really funny..

 

 

 

Any to that other guy Charolette is back btw, their not that good though but they'll be improving:P

 

 

 

And ....The East is Better then the West Man, just look at the Atlantic Division it's taken its go from worst to best

[look_its_rob]

And ....The East is Better then the West Man, just look at the Atlantic Division it's taken its go from worst to best

 

 

 

there is no way in hell the east can be considered better than the west. yea im a huge celtics fan and some teams have gotten better, but still.

 

 

 

The suns, the spurs, the mavs, the rockets?

[martinisback]

Nets Pistons Heat Caviliers Raptors Celtics Chicago.

 

 

 

The top 4 west teams MAY be better then the toop 4 in the East, however the Easts way better down low in the 9th-15th seeds. You got a couple teams who really have no one at the end, but the Bobcats for an example, who probablyt will finish 12th-15th, have newly aquired Jason Richardson, and have tons of rookies who are improving.

[bartoron]

The West is still going to be better than the East. Get over it. :-s

 

 

 

Last season, there were only 2 teams in the Eastern Conference that finished with 50 or more wins (Cleveland with 50 and Detroit with 53). There were 5 teams in the Western Conference that had 50 or more wins (Utah with 51, Houston with 52, San Antonio with 58, Phoenix with 61, and Dallas with 67).

[Lord_Omar_Iv]

 

The Eastern Conference this year will be MUCH better then the West

 

 

 

 

 

hate to break it to u but the only superstars the west lost were Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.... Both which were on horrible, non-contending teams. The West still has San Antonio, Dallas, Phoenix alone that can destroy any East team in a series. Plus the west just gained what some critics believe to future hall of famers in rookies Kevin Durant and Greg Oden. please i wanna know how the hell u came up with this absurd prediction. I guaranteed in 2-3 yrs T-wolves will be back in the playoffs with that YOUNG talent theyve gotten.

[Lord_Omar_Iv]

in 4 yrs for sure even greg oden and the blazers will have a better record than those Celtics.

[azntemplar_00]

Yeah, the west is still going to be better than the east. Just because a bunch of aging superstars have been brought into the broken conference doesn't mean they'll just gel. There's something called team chemistry that has to be built and maintained. I'd say while the east has some new shiny toys to play with, the big guns in the west have are just finetuning their weapons.

[bartoron]

Yeah, the west is still going to be better than the east. Just because a bunch of aging superstars have been brought into the broken conference doesn't mean they'll just gel. There's something called team chemistry that has to be built and maintained. I'd say while the east has some new shiny toys to play with, the big guns in the west have are just finetuning their weapons.

 

 

 

Good point. The Spurs are probably gonna go out and sign even more unnecessary veterans to make their bench even more packed, and the Suns signed Grant Hill. ;)

[Lord_Omar_Iv]

Yeah, the west is still going to be better than the east. Just because a bunch of aging superstars have been brought into the broken conference doesn't mean they'll just gel. There's something called team chemistry that has to be built and maintained. I'd say while the east has some new shiny toys to play with, the big guns in the west have are just finetuning their weapons.

 

 

 

Good point. The Spurs are probably gonna go out and sign even more unnecessary veterans to make their bench even more packed, and the Suns signed Grant Hill. ;)

 

 

 

the only thing i like about the spurs is their scouts... how the hell did they find Tony Parker, manu ginobili, beats me. they even drafted leandro barbosa but traded him on the day he was drafted to the suns. plus they always find decent foreign players for their bench

[bartoron]

Yeah, the west is still going to be better than the east. Just because a bunch of aging superstars have been brought into the broken conference doesn't mean they'll just gel. There's something called team chemistry that has to be built and maintained. I'd say while the east has some new shiny toys to play with, the big guns in the west have are just finetuning their weapons.

 

 

 

Good point. The Spurs are probably gonna go out and sign even more unnecessary veterans to make their bench even more packed, and the Suns signed Grant Hill. ;)

 

 

 

the only thing i like about the spurs is their scouts... how the hell did they find Tony Parker, manu ginobili, beats me. they even drafted leandro barbosa but traded him on the day he was drafted to the suns. plus they always find decent foreign players for their bench

 

 

 

Yes, the Spurs do have good scouts. ;)

[martinisback]

Yeah, the west is still going to be better than the east. Just because a bunch of aging superstars have been brought into the broken conference doesn't mean they'll just gel. There's something called team chemistry that has to be built and maintained. I'd say while the east has some new shiny toys to play with, the big guns in the west have are just finetuning their weapons.

 

 

 

hehe. looks like much people disagree that the fact the East wil be better then the west. WE'll have to wait for the all-star game:P.

 

 

 

And some of you say " just cause 2 superstars came to the east, doesnt mean east is better." come on, Garnett is one hell of a player top 5 player in the Nba, and our best Pf inthe east was like Jermaine O'neal, now its garnett:p. And allen is one hell of ap layer to, even Lewis came to our conference, richardson who is an allstar when at his best. Looks like we'll see whos right at the all-star game:P :)

[Lord_Omar_Iv]

Yeah, the west is still going to be better than the east. Just because a bunch of aging superstars have been brought into the broken conference doesn't mean they'll just gel. There's something called team chemistry that has to be built and maintained. I'd say while the east has some new shiny toys to play with, the big guns in the west have are just finetuning their weapons.

 

 

 

hehe. looks like much people disagree that the fact the East wil be better then the west. WE'll have to wait for the all-star game:P.

 

 

 

And some of you say " just cause 2 superstars came to the east, doesnt mean east is better." come on, Garnett is one hell of a player top 5 player in the Nba, and our best Pf inthe east was like Jermaine O'neal, now its garnett:p. And allen is one hell of ap layer to, even Lewis came to our conference, richardson who is an allstar when at his best. Looks like we'll see whos right at the all-star game:P :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there was more competition between team usa scrimmaging eachother than the all-star game. thats a horrible way to make a decision which conference is better

[look_its_rob]

you cant decide which conference is better through an allstar gane :wall:

[martinisback]

you cant decide which conference is better through an allstar gane :wall:

 

 

 

Why is that?

 

 

 

Standings can't be decided throu each conference because they barely face the western teams, vise versa.

 

 

 

All star game is The Best of the Players on Eastern Confernce, and the best out of the Players of the West