How jagex should have selected player mods.

[Bac_Talan]

I really don't approve of the "friend recommendation" system suggested in the first post. For one thing, it would mean that someone must know a mod to be a mod, meaning that many good players (including me.. :P) would never have received mod invitations. Secondly, as previously stated, Jagex would have to eventually release info on how mods were selected, and it would make players *really* angry. Finally, I get enough random pms of "Friends?" every time I step into F2P Lumby. It's hard enough for us mods, let's try not to make it any worse.

 

 

 

That's my concise opinion. Feel free to comment, compliment, criticize, or do whatever you want as long as it's within the rules.. :|

[123Yourgone]

I really don't approve of the "friend recommendation" system suggested in the first post. For one thing, it would mean that someone must know a mod to be a mod, meaning that many good players (including me.. :P) would never have received mod invitations. Secondly, as previously stated, Jagex would have to eventually release info on how mods were selected, and it would make players *really* angry. Finally, I get enough random pms of "Friends?" every time I step into F2P Lumby. It's hard enough for us mods, let's try not to make it any worse.

 

 

 

That's my concise opinion. Feel free to comment, compliment, criticize, or do whatever you want as long as it's within the rules.. :|

 

Your the exact kind of person this rant is about, low lvl player mod that doesnt deserve the position, how many black marks did your previous account have 212.1?. Great choice jagex, give p modship to the guy who has the all time black mark record.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

I really don't approve of the "friend recommendation" system suggested in the first post. For one thing, it would mean that someone must know a mod to be a mod, meaning that many good players (including me.. :P) would never have received mod invitations. Secondly, as previously stated, Jagex would have to eventually release info on how mods were selected, and it would make players *really* angry. Finally, I get enough random pms of "Friends?" every time I step into F2P Lumby. It's hard enough for us mods, let's try not to make it any worse.

 

 

 

That's my concise opinion. Feel free to comment, compliment, criticize, or do whatever you want as long as it's within the rules.. :|

 

Your the exact kind of person this rant is about, low lvl player mod that doesnt deserve the position, how many black marks did your previous account have 212.1?. Great choice jagex, give p modship to the guy who has the all time black mark record.

 

 

 

1. Based on levels alone, you cannot say that someone does or does not deserve modship. Seriously, this has been said countless times and may have to be said countless more. So what if Bac_Talan has less than the overall total/combat level than you expected? That doesn't make him any less worthy of moderation than you or I, if we only looked at total levels. Oh, and if we did just look at total level, we'd be oblivious to the rest of that person.

 

 

 

2. No one, not even Bac, said that he had another account. I don't even see where it's implied that he has black marks. You're pulling stuff out of thin air and trying to throw that in his face. Honestly, grow up.

 

 

 

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Doesn't seem like many people agree with the friend recommendation schema, and I don't blame them for it either. What's the point of a moderation system if only your friends were allowed to get in? And even if such a system came about, you can't prove [to me] beyond a shadow of a doubt that each friend on that player moderator's friendlist would be mature, responsible and capable of the job.

[123Yourgone]

I really don't approve of the "friend recommendation" system suggested in the first post. For one thing, it would mean that someone must know a mod to be a mod, meaning that many good players (including me.. :P) would never have received mod invitations. Secondly, as previously stated, Jagex would have to eventually release info on how mods were selected, and it would make players *really* angry. Finally, I get enough random pms of "Friends?" every time I step into F2P Lumby. It's hard enough for us mods, let's try not to make it any worse.

 

 

 

That's my concise opinion. Feel free to comment, compliment, criticize, or do whatever you want as long as it's within the rules.. :|

 

Your the exact kind of person this rant is about, low lvl player mod that doesnt deserve the position, how many black marks did your previous account have 212.1?. Great choice jagex, give p modship to the guy who has the all time black mark record.

 

 

 

1. Based on levels alone, you cannot say that someone does or does not deserve modship. Seriously, this has been said countless times and may have to be said countless more. So what if Bac_Talan has less than the overall total/combat level than you expected? That doesn't make him any less worthy of moderation than you or I, if we only looked at total levels. Oh, and if we did just look at total level, we'd be oblivious to the rest of that person.

 

 

 

2. No one, not even Bac, said that he had another account. I don't even see where it's implied that he has black marks. You're pulling stuff out of thin air and trying to throw that in his face. Honestly, grow up.

 

 

 

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Doesn't seem like many people agree with the friend recommendation schema, and I don't blame them for it either. What's the point of a moderation system if only your friends were allowed to get in? And even if such a system came about, you can't prove [to me] beyond a shadow of a doubt that each friend on that player moderator's friendlist would be mature, responsible and capable of the job.

 

Some of you may remember the account I got banned with 212.1 blackmarks (Post all RS related screenshots here sticky). I tried that appeal and several other ones like it and so far two of them are denied withing minutes..I've never had a successful appeal..all I can see is that you're really lucky..

 

 

 

Impressive though. Very impressive.

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

[123Yourgone]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

There shouldnt be second chances when it comes to giving out abusable powers.

[Alg]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

[123Yourgone]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

Skill total has nothing to do with xp, i can lvl the 3 skills i currently have under 15 (one at 1) and jump 200 skill total or so in a day.

 

Total xp is what matters, and i have hmm 4 times what you do?.

[Alg]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

Skill total has nothing to do with xp, i can lvl the 3 skills i currently have under 15 (one at 1) and jump 200 skill total or so in a day.

 

Total xp is what matters, and i have hmm 4 times what you do?.

 

yes, 4 times as much, i'll give you that. as i said, minus combat, which is 3/4ths of your exp.

[123Yourgone]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

Skill total has nothing to do with xp, i can lvl the 3 skills i currently have under 15 (one at 1) and jump 200 skill total or so in a day.

 

Total xp is what matters, and i have hmm 4 times what you do?.

 

yes, 4 times as much, i'll give you that. as i said, minus combat, which is 3/4ths of your exp.

Subtract my combat xp and i have 11.7m xp..

 

Subract your combat xp and you have 9m xp..

 

Wait i still beat you, good try though.

 

Any way, we got off topic, regardless of how he got black marks (his brother playing his acc is against the rules also)

 

He still had an account banned and was given p mod status, that tells me jagex has a flaw in the process they use to select player mods.

[Alg]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

Skill total has nothing to do with xp, i can lvl the 3 skills i currently have under 15 (one at 1) and jump 200 skill total or so in a day.

 

Total xp is what matters, and i have hmm 4 times what you do?.

 

yes, 4 times as much, i'll give you that. as i said, minus combat, which is 3/4ths of your exp.

Subtract my combat xp and i have 11.7m xp..

 

Subract your combat xp and you have 9m xp..

 

Wait i still beat you, good try though.

 

Any way, we got off topic, regardless of how he got black marks (his brother playing his acc is against the rules also)

 

He still had an account banned and was given p mod status, that tells me jagex has a flaw in the process they use to select player mods.

 

i'm aware you beat me in exp as well, but barely.

 

 

 

that account was banned, during the time he was a mod. he also says in the thread it's his brother's account as well.

[123Yourgone]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

Skill total has nothing to do with xp, i can lvl the 3 skills i currently have under 15 (one at 1) and jump 200 skill total or so in a day.

 

Total xp is what matters, and i have hmm 4 times what you do?.

 

yes, 4 times as much, i'll give you that. as i said, minus combat, which is 3/4ths of your exp.

Subtract my combat xp and i have 11.7m xp..

 

Subract your combat xp and you have 9m xp..

 

Wait i still beat you, good try though.

 

Any way, we got off topic, regardless of how he got black marks (his brother playing his acc is against the rules also)

 

He still had an account banned and was given p mod status, that tells me jagex has a flaw in the process they use to select player mods.

 

i'm aware you beat me in exp as well, but barely.

 

 

 

that account was banned, during the time he was a mod. he also says in the thread it's his brother's account as well.

Brothers account or not, he clearly has access to it.

 

Btw, you dont get 20+ black marks for an autotyper alone.

[Alg]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

Skill total has nothing to do with xp, i can lvl the 3 skills i currently have under 15 (one at 1) and jump 200 skill total or so in a day.

 

Total xp is what matters, and i have hmm 4 times what you do?.

 

yes, 4 times as much, i'll give you that. as i said, minus combat, which is 3/4ths of your exp.

Subtract my combat xp and i have 11.7m xp..

 

Subract your combat xp and you have 9m xp..

 

Wait i still beat you, good try though.

 

Any way, we got off topic, regardless of how he got black marks (his brother playing his acc is against the rules also)

 

He still had an account banned and was given p mod status, that tells me jagex has a flaw in the process they use to select player mods.

 

i'm aware you beat me in exp as well, but barely.

 

 

 

that account was banned, during the time he was a mod. he also says in the thread it's his brother's account as well.

Brothers account or not, he clearly has access to it.

 

Btw, you dont get 20+ black marks for an autotyper alone.

 

you might actually want to read over what you're talking about before posting again...

[123Yourgone]

 

Try again, you honestly think i would say something like that if he hadnt already said it on another thread?.

 

Goes to show how well jagex screens player mods.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll admit that I was remiss; but I didn't see that on this topic. Of course, I'm not going to pull up dirt from another topic. At any rate, how do you know he hasn't turned over a new leaf? How do you know he hasn't reformed?

 

as well as the fact that the account, he said, was from his brother playing with an autotyper?

 

 

 

i was called a low level mod here, yet if we're talking about totals, mine's only 5 under that of the author's, possibly higher if combat is subtracted. irony?

Skill total has nothing to do with xp, i can lvl the 3 skills i currently have under 15 (one at 1) and jump 200 skill total or so in a day.

 

Total xp is what matters, and i have hmm 4 times what you do?.

 

yes, 4 times as much, i'll give you that. as i said, minus combat, which is 3/4ths of your exp.

Subtract my combat xp and i have 11.7m xp..

 

Subract your combat xp and you have 9m xp..

 

Wait i still beat you, good try though.

 

Any way, we got off topic, regardless of how he got black marks (his brother playing his acc is against the rules also)

 

He still had an account banned and was given p mod status, that tells me jagex has a flaw in the process they use to select player mods.

 

i'm aware you beat me in exp as well, but barely.

 

 

 

that account was banned, during the time he was a mod. he also says in the thread it's his brother's account as well.

Brothers account or not, he clearly has access to it.

 

Btw, you dont get 20+ black marks for an autotyper alone.

 

you might actually want to read over what you're talking about before posting again...

Perhaps you should, before you look even more foolish, go investigate where that qoute came from, and the relevence of his qoute on that thread and you will see he is not moderator material at all.

 

Seriously, your arguements have no merit, you should need to be experienced in the game before you have any chance of becoming a player mod, and you should also have a completly clear record on your home ip.

[klankaos]

Please don't engage in huge quotefests, you can make your reply without having to restate everything that's already been said in the debate. If you must, try to use only one or two, if they're relevant. Arguing about who has the most exp really isn't in any way relevant to the debate, and could probably be considered both spamming and flaming.

[QueenValerie]

Yes I agree please stop with the quote spam it is not allowable on these forums ~ In order to maintain an environment that promotes ease in the exchange of information, spamming is prohibited. Spamming includes nested quotes.

 

Also please do not post flame bait it will get this topic locked. :shame:

[123Yourgone]

Yes I agree please stop with the quote spam it is not allowable on these forums ~ In order to maintain an environment that promotes ease in the exchange of information, spamming is prohibited. Spamming includes nested quotes.

 

Also please do not post flame bait it will get this topic locked. :shame:

Tell him not to come off as a smug wannabe mod moron then and i wont flame him.. theres a report button for a reason and no reason for him to post his 2 cents worth.

 

I used the qoute button couse it was faster to reply coherantly.

[alcoolj]

The biggest fault in the authors suggestion is this part ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Åmake 10 player mods from known people in the community"

 

 

 

To get 6200 mods it would take months, if not years to get enough pmods to cover the roles they currently play. Do you honestly think that having 10 people begin the process, that by the time there are 6200 Pmods that every single one is going have the same degree of maturity? Get real.

[123Yourgone]

The biggest fault in the authors suggestion is this part ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Åmake 10 player mods from known people in the community"

 

 

 

To get 6200 mods it would take months, if not years to get enough pmods to cover the roles they currently play. Do you honestly think that having 10 people begin the process, that by the time there are 6200 Pmods that every single one is going have the same degree of maturity? Get real.

Couldnt be any worse.

[alcoolj]

I disagree ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ at least Jagex maintain control over who they see fit to be a Pmod. Yes they get it wrong at times, and each week 20 or so people are demoded for those very reasons.

 

 

 

Your model would see the 6k mods picked from a select group, based not on in game reporting skills or how helpful they are, or maturity levels ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ but would be picked because they are the best of a group that the select group know. They would not be the cream of the crop, but rather they would be the least sour milk. Imo ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ your model would bring significantly more bad pmods into the game than currently exists, not to mention the vast workload increase Jagex would have to do to implement it, and maintain it.

[123Yourgone]

I disagree ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ at least Jagex maintain control over who they see fit to be a Pmod. Yes they get it wrong at times, and each week 20 or so people are demoded for those very reasons.

 

 

 

Your model would see the 6k mods picked from a select group, based not on in game reporting skills or how helpful they are, or maturity levels ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ but would be picked because they are the best of a group that the select group know. They would not be the cream of the crop, but rather they would be the least sour milk. Imo ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ your model would bring significantly more bad pmods into the game than currently exists, not to mention the vast workload increase Jagex would have to do to implement it, and maintain it.

Your an idiot..

 

Say we have 10 player mods, people who are well known AND mature, they each get to nominate 2 player mods each.. are they just going to nominate anyone?

 

The 20 people picked get to nominate 2 people each, are they just going to nominate ANYONE?.

 

I dont think so.

[Jordanweb]

That would be patheticly stupid, only the people who suck up big time to their moderator friends will be chosen.

 

 

 

If they implemented a system like that i would DEFINITELY quit.

[123Yourgone]

That would be patheticly stupid, only the people who suck up big time to their moderator friends will be chosen.

 

 

 

If they implemented a system like that i would DEFINITELY quit.

There would be a limit of 2 nominations per person, and the people chosen arnt just going to give it to anyone.

[Mico]

That would be patheticly stupid, only the people who suck up big time to their moderator friends will be chosen.

 

 

 

If they implemented a system like that i would DEFINITELY quit.

There would be a limit of 2 nominations per person, and the people chosen arnt just going to give it to anyone.

 

 

 

Let us say that one would get fed up with Rune Scape and gathers some evil players, nominates 2, then those 2 nominate 4, then 8, 16, 32 and so on, and in the end, we could have a thousand evil players with modship. And let' s say they all go muting.

[123Yourgone]

That would be patheticly stupid, only the people who suck up big time to their moderator friends will be chosen.

 

 

 

If they implemented a system like that i would DEFINITELY quit.

There would be a limit of 2 nominations per person, and the people chosen arnt just going to give it to anyone.

 

 

 

Let us say that one would get fed up with Rune Scape and gathers some evil players, nominates 2, then those 2 nominate 4, then 8, 16, 32 and so on, and in the end, we could have a thousand evil players with modship. And let' s say they all go muting.

Your clutching at straws here.

 

The people picked arnt just going to get sick of runescape, thats why you pick high lvls, they are already invested into the game, and if you pick mature players as i said they arnt going to suddenly ruin their reputation regardless of whether the quit or not.

 

And jagex would still screen every refference, no previous black marks.