Mage Staker

[Jain_Charin]

Wow. Seems like certain people on this forum are a bit unintelligent.

 

 

 

Forget it, no more replies please, I'll just ask my mage staker friends who actually *know* stuff. :shock:

 

 

 

Thanks for... umm... trying to help, though.

 

 

 

I hate to say it but you are an [wagon]. You know nothing at all of staking you ask for help here and you completly ignore anyone with actual good advice mage staking is hard alright? chances are you wont make it. You certainly wont make "$$$" maybe enough to get by staking some unsuspecting normal players for 50k here and there. But you will not be living the high life anyone with half a clue will not stake more than 50k against you and if they do...they know what you are up to and can beat you... But w/e go suck up to your "buddy" and maybe he'll tell you the same

[Xeones]

Wow. Seems like certain people on this forum are a bit unintelligent.

 

 

 

Forget it, no more replies please, I'll just ask my mage staker friends who actually *know* stuff. :shock:

 

 

 

Thanks for... umm... trying to help, though.

 

 

 

I hate to say it but you are an [wagon]. You know nothing at all of staking you ask for help here and you completly ignore anyone with actual good advice mage staking is hard alright? chances are you wont make it. You certainly wont make "$$$" maybe enough to get by staking some unsuspecting normal players for 50k here and there. But you will not be living the high life anyone with half a clue will not stake more than 50k against you and if they do...they know what you are up to and can beat you... But w/e go suck up to your "buddy" and maybe he'll tell you the same

 

 

 

OK, Mr. I-Know-Everything-And-Everyone-Else-Is-Inferior.

 

 

 

Let's look at what the first post asks. Now let's look at what the replyers said.

 

 

 

bballer: tells me to start over...

 

 

 

sirgudi: tells me not to use ice spells when I explicitly stated that I will use them because they are helpful in obstacle staking, which is the only staking real mages do.

 

 

 

pantim: also tells me no ice (wtf is with this)

 

 

 

deathdefire: tells me how to train when I explicitly stated I was going to Fire Bolt to get HP experience

 

 

 

pantim: again with an unhelpful post telling me to alch or stun

 

 

 

And now you, telling me they gave me "good advice." And also flaming me and saying "you know nothing at all of staking" when I probably know more than you. Also, I do not "suck up" to my friends (I don't know if you do), I ask them for help.

 

 

 

I just wanted my questions answered. Out of 26 replies, I have barely gotten an answer to one of them.

 

 

 

Now you tell me who knows nothing at all of staking.

[Jain_Charin]

"Real" mages do not use obstacles "Real" mages do not use Ice spells while staking "Real" mages do not use armour.

 

 

 

Training with fire bolt is rediculous alching would be way cheaper.

 

 

 

Spend some time watching "Real" mage staking you will see what goes down And how rediculous you sound.

 

 

 

I never said I knew everything And I certainly never said anyone else was inferior. I did call you an [wagon] And I do apologize.

[Kraizhir]

Wow. Seems like certain people on this forum are a bit unintelligent.

 

 

 

Forget it, no more replies please, I'll just ask my mage staker friends who actually *know* stuff. :shock:

 

 

 

Thanks for... umm... trying to help, though.

 

 

 

you ask for advice then tell people that they are unintellegent...

[sirgudi]

Ugh. No help at all. I'm getting Ahrim's.

 

 

 

dont use ice spells!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

use shadow barrage and blood barrage if you are going to use mage.

 

 

 

get...

 

94 magic

 

70 range

 

70 defence

 

52 prayer

 

 

 

Uhh, are you serious? The whole point of Ancient Magicks is to freeze your opponent so you can maneuver (sp?) the obstacles while your opponent stays frozen and you Blood Blitz them.

 

 

 

Also, 70 to 75 Defense won't make a difference. Neither will 52 to 60 Prayer.

 

 

 

Is it necessary to have 94 Magic? Because 82 will already cost me 10m using Fire Bolts w/ Chaos Gauntlets. 94 will cost me upwards of 40m. Can't I stay with Blitzes, not Barrages???

 

 

 

mage staking is no movement...

[blackgem]

Fire bolt is too expensive, and low EXP, high alch, or Stun wuth a mud staff.

 

 

 

But just remember...

 

Shadow,Smoke, THEN BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

No more of your posts, please. They are idiotic at the least. :wall:

 

 

 

Didn't you ever notice, in your long and experienced RuneScape career, that Hitpoints is the stats that wins duels? :?:

 

 

 

A staker must, MUST, have high Hitpoints. I do not believe I will achieve that by High Alching bows. #-o

 

 

 

Using Ice spells is necessary in dueling. It is used mainly to freeze them in place, and because it hits so high. Any video you see of great stakers such as Woot3r 2005 or others, will only use Ice and Blood Spells. Hmm, I wonder what that means?

 

 

 

I hope you have learned your mistakes from this post. :shame:

 

 

 

Ice > Blood > Blood > Ice when he starts moving > Blood > Blood, etc. according to Mrmegakirby, who I believe is correct. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

The only thing I'm still not sure about is whether to include the Smoke types of spells, which poisons. Do duels last long enough for the poison to kick in? Or should I instead Ice and Blood only?

 

 

 

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

 

 

1.He was trying to help ok?

 

 

 

2.You didnt state you planned on fighting MELEE Only? around obsticles?

 

 

 

3.If mage then why bother using ice?

 

To freeze them to their no movement spot?

 

 

 

4.When their using blood blitz your health will go down and they will gain health - you will get owned

 

 

 

5.Pointless thread if you already know what to do?

 

I would call you a "Far caster" But i would get flamed :wall:

 

 

 

6.He gave advice and you told him otherwise?

 

 

 

7.OK, Mr. I-Know-Everything-And-Everyone-Else-Is-Inferior-I-Already-Know-How-To-Stake-Or-I-Think-I-Do

 

 

 

8.How about you go away since people try to help but you flame them?

 

 

 

9.You type of people annoy me

 

 

 

10.Fire bolts is a really slow way to train? - Get alchs Hp doesnt matter because you can pc it later on? ok? - then you can use some of your special fire bolts to get 50 damage (if you manage that)

 

 

 

11.ALL MAGE STAKERS STAKE OBSTICLES OFF>> FAR CASTERS STAKE MELEE@S WITH IT ON

 

Get your facts right.

 

 

 

12. Go play Guitar Hero or go play the Wii,

 

 

 

13.Dont try to make people feel worthless to you? asif you know everything - have fun fire bolting to 94 fool.

 

 

 

14. Dont even ASK For help if you will not accept it - go do whatever you thinks best and get owned - Gl losing your money with your way - remember not to come complaining here on these forums

 

 

 

15.Every bit of info was from other TALENTED people who know more than you - they know what their talking about so stfu and listen ok?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

1 like lummy

[Xeones]

Who said mage staking is no movement? I'm planning to stake other mages and the occasional warrior or ranger while obstacles are ON. I've never heard of serioud mage staking with no movement, maybe that's why everyone got so confused and kept telling me no Ice spells.

 

 

 

:mrgreen:

[Xeones]

To anyone who gave me advice:

 

 

 

SORRY AND THANK YOU.

 

 

 

I was being an [wagon] before. #-o Any and all advice is appreciated.

 

 

 

But, do you guys think there is still hope for my main to become into an obstacles on/armor on/prayer on/ice-blood Ancient mage staker? This way, it is much more clear as to what I want and therefore the advice will be of more use to me. :mrgreen:

[Soulthresher]

If you are ancienting, Ice spells are useless if movement is off, and if it is on, only a fool or a confident player will stake you.

 

 

 

You might as well get the barrages as they are more accurate and stronger. Start off with smoke barrage then hit them with blood barrage. You want to heal yourself, not ice them in a stake if you have no movement. Ice spells won't work with no movement on.

[F_L_4_5_H_D]

Here's all you need to know:

 

 

 

Ice Barrage when there moving

 

 

 

Shadow Barrage when there standing still

 

 

 

And use Blood Barrage to regain health

[Xeones]

NOTE:

 

 

 

I will be staking Obstacles On, Prayer On, all types of attacking on, Special Attack On, No Forfeit On, Fun Weapons Off, Food Off, Drinks Off.

 

 

 

I will be staking other mages, other rangers, or the occasional stupid warrior.

 

 

 

One question: Does Shadow Barrage lower the Attack stat or does it lower the accuracy of Magic and Ranged, too? Because if it is only Attack, I won't be fighting many warriors, meaning it is useless.

 

 

 

Do I use Smoke Barrage at all? I mean it starts at 6 damage per poison hit! But, I personally think the duel will be over before any poison damage occurs.

 

 

 

So Ice to freeze them. Blood to heal me. Ice again when they're not moving. And, if Shadow affects Magic and Ranged too, then I'll use Shadow after Ice and for all other damage.

[Jaksparr0]

what you're forgetting:

 

 

 

- mage staking vs rangers is.....a mistake. especially with 82 mage - you WILL be facing tank rangers out there, and at lvl 94 they generally have 90+ range 80+ def and high mage ;)

 

 

 

- armour on staking is a bad idea...rangers or meleers can just stick on dhide, you WILL miss at least once and the meleers will hurt you bad in your ahrims. rangers i just went through

 

 

 

- obstacles on is fine, i prefer no movement but obstacles is ok. i'd recommend blood attacks all the way though unless you're facing a particularly [developmentally delayed]ed meleer who's accepted your rules :P

 

 

 

- prayer on....you wont get many stakes with prayer on. also opens the door wide open to veracers

 

 

 

- shadow only lowers attack

 

 

 

- smoke is worth it in armour on, armour off its not

 

 

 

hope i helped, sorry if i seemed overly critical but this and range staking is one area i actually know something about :P

[Nopheo]

I have a lot of staking experience but high majority as a ranger. I do have ancients but used rarely. From my experience, you will easily destroy meleers who do not put on no movement. Mages can be just a test of experience. However against rangers what you need to learn is the value of proper distance. I can generally beat ice ancients mages because they don't get out of range of my long range crystal bow. If you get close on a ranger exspecially with no armor youy will get raped but knives. So learn the arena well enough to know what a ranger can do from where cause that will be the real way of knowing if you are a good staker.

[Magical_Phat]

The equipment is good

 

Here are the steps to killing your opponent.

 

 

 

1.)For warriors, Ice Burst or Barrage him/her when starting the fight. About rangers and Magers, You can just use the dds spec on them and then use whip, but either way would be good.

 

2.)Warriors: Cast Smoke Blitz or Barrage (Either one), Rangers and Magers, Cast Smoke Burst/Barrage then Ice Burst/Barrage them. (Make sure you keep moving, Magers and Rangers might have dds in their inventory)

 

3.)Continuously cast shadow Blitz or Barrage your enemy until he/she starts moving again. Use this on warriors, For Rangers and Magers, Smoke Blitz/Barrage or Ice.

 

4.) Repeat the process all over again (Except for the Smoke spells, but if needed) and if needed then cast Blood Blitz or Barrage to restore your health points.

 

 

 

 

 

Praying helps too :D

 

Hope this helps :)

 

And lol, this is gonna take up a lot of runes, but if you

 

win then great :D

[chiknstu]

i would use blood and smoke spells.. poison and health regeneration.. what's not to love eh? am i right.. yes of course i am:)

[glover69]

i see how u said ud be doin obs on.... LEARN them first,half the mages i stake r higher hp and mage n i win cas i know obs... u said pray on? no1 likes pray on makes it boring :S move on rangers can hit u anywhere...if they know to put longrange on if they do a good strategy is hit run under, hit run under if they're not fast they wont touch u well gl

[ultimatballr]

If the creator is still reading, just take the things I am saying into consideration.

 

 

 

1. Mage staking. Ask yourself do you really want to stake other mages with obs on? Thats how people get scammed or "cheated" Haven't you ever heard of the safespots where people freeze you and run to the spot where they can attack you but you cant attack them? I believe this is still a problem, and if it has been fixed I haven't heard of it.

 

 

 

2. 94 magic, no its not a must, but 92 sure would be helpful. Considering that most of your opponents will have 90+ mage. (most with 94) And seeing as blood barrage hits 4 hp's higher than blood blitz, which may not seem like much but from what I have seen many matches are a matter of single hitpoints.

 

 

 

3. Mage stakers, at least the smart ones, stake no armor, no movement, everything off but mage, and attack hand open, thats it. (at least from what I have read and seen in videos)

 

 

 

4. Shadow and Blood, those are your best friends. Unless you actually do find a dumb meleer who stakes you mage on, pray off, movement on... well then that just easy money as ice would be your best friend.

 

 

 

Thats pretty much all I have to say right now.

 

 

 

This video was pretty alright to watch too, maybe you'll get ideas from it:

 

 

 

 

(one more thing, when you ask for advice, at least be courteous to other people who took the time out of their lives to reply to your question. As you can see, not everyone who reads a thread replies to it. So if the information they give you is not what your looking for just say something like "Thanks for the advice, but its not what I was looking for. Can anyone else provide me with help?" More people who are courteous like that get more respect from people, and usually they will get more replies next time. Also, maybe the reason they gave you information you weren't looking for is because you didn't phrase your question right. It happens, noone is perfect.)

 

[MadSkater7]

Use shadow barrage first, ice blitz/barrage, then use blood blitz through the rest. If you have watched videos of people, you will notice that mage staking is only maging so there isnt really a point in freezing as in to immobilize them.

[Omg_Imba]

Urgh, what are you thinking?

 

 

 

If money is a worry, don't make a mage staker!

 

 

 

99 Magic costs around 20m High-Alching. If you want HP xp, alch to about 90 and then train with Ice Spells at PC, using the PC points on HP.

 

 

 

While I respect that you already have your own ideas about making a mage staker, please do not act so arrogantly towards those offering advice, or in the future you might not get it. :?

 

 

 

Alternatively, you could always train up HP by training defence.

 

I'm not too sure about how much benefit it offers vs Combat Level increase, but it can't be that bad?