zaquierming Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=2758 Motherboard: Asus Commando http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3 ... odelmenu=1 PSU: OCZ / GameXStream / 700-Watt http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=2533 Vid card: GTX 8800 768mb http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=2513 RAM: Corsair Dominator http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=2368 Hard Drive: Western Digital / Caviar SE / 320GB http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=2458 Case: Apevia X-Cruiser http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=1520 Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... u=L23-7074 Mouse: Logitech G7 Laser Gaming Mouse http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... No=1543156 Yeah. Now here's where you guys come in. :) I know I should either be getting the GTX or at least the GTS 640mb, but I don't really want to dish out more money. If anything, I'll get the 640mb GTS, but I really think the GTX is too much for me to spend on a Vid card right now. Also, water cooling. I'm debating getting the Thermaltake BigWater water cooling system. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835106074) Or, maybe I won't and I'll just use that 150 dollars towards the GTX. :anxious: Also, I'm a little iffy about the PSU, I think it might be overkill for what I need it to do. If any of you have recommendations on a (cheaper :-w ) PSU that will do the job, that'd be great. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-I took the one less traveled by,And that has made all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das1330 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 most of those parts are good, but you would get more bang for your buck using an 8800 gtx and dropping the water cooling to pay for it, because the performance gains are minimal unless you are an EXPERT overclocker. As far as the power supply goes, with that setup 850 watts is a bit overkill. This power supply is 100 watts less, but plenty for your needs. Also, I would recommend a motherboard with a 680i chipset, as most big reviewers (Toms hardware) say that they overclock better then the intel based chipsets. This board doesent have quite as much bling as the board you listed, but does the job well. As far as a good alternative to water cooling, I would go for This cooler. Unless you have used water cooling before and know EXACTLY what your doing, it tends to be more frustration then its worth for the ~5% extra overclock you can squeeze out of the processor. otherwise your build looks good. Obviously all the parts I listed are from newegg.com, and because they do not ship to canada you will have to use the part numbers to track them down at Tiger direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaquierming Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Thanks. I was considering that motherboard. That fan would have most likely been my alternative for the Water cooling as well. Ok, I am now going to get this: PSU: OCZ / GameXStream / 700-Watt http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=2533 Vid card: GTX 8800 768mb http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=2513 Still deciding between the Commando mobo and the EVGA nForce 680i. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-I took the one less traveled by,And that has made all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Looks great to me. However I would personally go for This Card. Its only $60 more and the 640mb would help a lot. IMO getting the 320mb would be a waste with a quad core . Rest of it looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 hmph, my computer has been outdated. I just upgraded a few years ago to a 64mb video card :wall: . Are you going to get a physics card? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 hmph, my computer has been outdated. I just upgraded a few years ago to a 64mb video card :wall: . Are you going to get a physics card? :P Physics cards are only supported by a few games right now and just aren't worth it considering how well dual and quad core can deal with physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaquierming Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 hmph, my computer has been outdated. I just upgraded a few years ago to a 64mb video card :wall: . Are you going to get a physics card? :P Physics cards are only supported by a few games right now and just aren't worth it considering how well dual and quad core can deal with physics. Yup, a physics card will worsen the graphics in this setup. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-I took the one less traveled by,And that has made all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovUSA Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Looks great and run it with Windows 98 :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Looks great and run it with Windows 98 :mrgreen: You better not be the same guy that suggested this last week. I really hope your kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovUSA Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Unfortunately I am not that guy, but sarcasm at the end of the day always helps. :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futurama Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Would you get better use from a quad core or a high end dual core? I'm running dual core and Cubase hardly even supports it so there wasn't much point for me! Do you buy a lot of new games or are you buying this without the intent of buying new games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Would you get better use from a quad core or a high end dual core? I'm running dual core and Cubase hardly even supports it so there wasn't much point for me! Do you buy a lot of new games or are you buying this without the intent of buying new games? You do bring a good point. However I think that quad core will work just fine. Any game that doesn't support it (only supports 1 or 2 cores) should be old enough that it'll run just fine on a quad core processor. Games coming out in the future are made to take advantage of all the cores and thats where quad core will come out ahead. It will also help when multitasking because programs can technicly get their own core working on the processes. (correct me if I'm wrong about this, I know you can get it to do that but I don't know if its automatic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 zaquierming, I suggest you flat forget both the water cooling and gtx upgrade from the gts, and just save the cash, or put a little of it into extra fan cooling... You don't want to be saying "bye-bye, computer" because your water cooling sprang a super-leak. :( Also, get yourself a 19" or larger monitor for that PC. I'm sitting on 17" and I can tell you that sometimes it ain't enough! As for software, here's my top recommendations for OS/FireWall/Anti-Virus/Browser... OS: Windows XP or Linux (Don't go near Vista. Vista doesn't like hardware enthusiasts. :( ...) FireWall: http://www.zonelabs.com -- ZoneAlarm Pro (Has saved PCs that I use.) Anti-Virus: http://www.eset.com -- Eset's NOD32 AV (Has saved PCs that I use.) Browser: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ -- Mozilla FireFox (Just doesn't have all the awful IE bugs.) I hope all this info helps. :) ~Mr. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 OS: Windows XP or Linux (Don't go near Vista. Vista doesn't like hardware enthusiasts. Sad ...) Thats a new bashing I have not heard of before. Vista is not bad, have you used it within the last 2 months? If not, don't say anything (this implies to all you vista bashing people). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltb2006 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Looks great to me. However I would personally go for This Card. Its only $60 more and the 640mb would help a lot. IMO getting the 320mb would be a waste with a quad core . Rest of it looks great. Well actually a 640 mb card is a complete overkill at under 1680x1050 so really it just depends what monitor setup you are going to use. High memory doesnt = better frame rates at usual res anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 OS: Windows XP or Linux (Don't go near Vista. Vista doesn't like hardware enthusiasts. :( ...) Thats a new bashing I have not heard of before. Vista is not bad, have you used it within the last 2 months? If not, don't say anything (this implies to all you vista bashing people). Grr... I hate having to repair quotes... blade995, have you tried changing out hardware parts constantly (like 1 every 20 days because you forgot to upgrade something and ran into trouble) in an attempt to better your computer? If not, don't argue with me, seeing as I've had to read the horror stories. Further, Microsoft has stipulated in their most recent EULAs and through their lawyers that you can't change any hardware or the PC that Vista was installed on is no longer the PC that Vista is supposed to be on. BTW, that triggers the re-activation procedures. (And right there is the reason I don't get near Vista. MicroSoft's activation scheme, which also tries to control the hardware you use. Can't even change the damn mouse. -.- ...) Now, I've shown the point. Like I said, Vista doesn't like hardware enthusiasts. <*Punches out blade995 and walks off.*> ~Mr. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Looks great to me. However I would personally go for This Card. Its only $60 more and the 640mb would help a lot. IMO getting the 320mb would be a waste with a quad core . Rest of it looks great. Well actually a 640 mb card is a complete overkill at under 1680x1050 so really it just depends what monitor setup you are going to use. High memory doesnt = better frame rates at usual res anyway. I didn't actually look at his monitor. A 320mb would be fine for a 17". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltb2006 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 zaquierming, I suggest you flat forget both the water cooling and gtx upgrade from the gts, and just save the cash, or put a little of it into extra fan cooling... You don't want to be saying "bye-bye, computer" because your water cooling sprang a super-leak. :( Also, get yourself a 19" or larger monitor for that PC. I'm sitting on 17" and I can tell you that sometimes it ain't enough! As for software, here's my top recommendations for OS/FireWall/Anti-Virus/Browser... OS: Windows XP or Linux (Don't go near Vista. Vista doesn't like hardware enthusiasts. :( ...) FireWall: http://www.zonelabs.com -- ZoneAlarm Pro (Has saved PCs that I use.) Anti-Virus: http://www.eset.com -- Eset's NOD32 AV (Has saved PCs that I use.) Browser: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ -- Mozilla FireFox (Just doesn't have all the awful IE bugs.) I hope all this info helps. :) ~Mr. Devnull Might be better spending the cash on a custom water cooling system instead of an "out the box one". Water cooling might be a good idea because quad cores are really hot. If you are worried about it frying your components then just use non conductive fluid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 OS: Windows XP or Linux (Don't go near Vista. Vista doesn't like hardware enthusiasts. :( ...) Thats a new bashing I have not heard of before. Vista is not bad, have you used it within the last 2 months? If not, don't say anything (this implies to all you vista bashing people). Grr... I hate having to repair quotes... blade995, have you tried changing out hardware parts constantly (like 1 every 20 days because you forgot to upgrade something and ran into trouble) in an attempt to better your computer? If not, don't argue with me, seeing as I've had to read the horror stories. Further, Microsoft has stipulated in their most recent EULAs and through their lawyers that you can't change any hardware or the PC that Vista was installed on is no longer the PC that Vista is supposed to be on. BTW, that triggers the re-activation procedures. (And right there is the reason I don't get near Vista. MicroSoft's activation scheme, which also tries to control the hardware you use. Can't even change the damn mouse. -.- ...) Now, I've shown the point. Like I said, Vista doesn't like hardware enthusiasts. <*Punches out blade995 and walks off.*> ~Mr. Devnull Listen here, I can argue with you, I do change out my hardware. You have no clue how the hardware activation works in Vista do you? Vista uses 10 hardware hashes. When you start the computer it checks against these hashes and sees if you have changed any hardware recently, if you have more than 5 different than from the install it triggers it. When I talk about changing hardware that does not include overclocking of anything because that will trigger nothing, it' does not check clock speed when hashing (because most modern cpus will downclock to save power). The only thing that will really trigger the activation is if you change out the motherboard (which counts as a new computer under OEM XP AND Vista's EULA). I know all about Vista, don't argue with me if you don't know what your talking about. If your talking about using a software program to overclock the graphics card in 64bit than thats a whole different story which I could go on forever about. Which is not really Vista's fault, it's more of the architecture of the 64bit instruction sets. <*Punches out D_V_Devnull and walks off.*> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miss18 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Very nice overall, looks pretty up to date. Overall Brill comp Private Chat Is Allways 'ON' So Say Hello To Me, Don't Worry I Won't Bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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