Is Jagex Towers really profit driven?

[Ss_J9_Goten]

Who are we to say what the motives of the individuals in charge are?

 

 

 

The customers. Without us, they'd be out of jobs. So, in the end, it is really us who are in charge.

 

 

 

Whell, what if Andrew said "I' ve had enough of all this whining and ranting about everything!!! I don' t need this, I can share all the money with my workers and I' m done!!!"

 

 

 

It' s them. How would you feel if you just want to make people happy, and then comes a brat, thinkig a slash in a zero is worse than starving families...

 

 

 

Besides, it IS their job, but they can quit anytime they want. But so can you members :twisted:

 

 

 

Then he'd stop making money. Sure, he can live off the money he's made, but the employees can't. Without us, they'd be out of jobs. And I'm sure Andrew wouldn't do that.

 

 

 

There has been a trend recently, that Jagex have been satisfying the customers wants; high levels complain that they get no updates, so they receive a string of updates to keep them happy. Jagex decide to listen to players, and make small updates based off the suggestions forums.

 

 

 

So ultimately it's us who are in charge.

[Deathman95]

Believe it or not, a Jagex is a company... not many companies go out into the world hoping to pay server bills, and keep up with the demands of 1milion plus customers (each day mind you) without making a penny.

 

 

 

To ask "Is jagex money oriented" is like asking if serial killer is guilty of a crime... yes jagex WANTS to make some money! SHOCKER ISN"T IT! No idiot is going to use all his companies resources to spend years building a game and NOT put in a membership. How can we complain about Jagex, maybe one of the best run companies, especially for the price you pay (free for most). I mean seriously, complaining about the ads while you play a FREE game is just immature.

 

 

 

BUT can a company be customer oriented while getting some money? Yep, and lets face it, RS costs 5 bucks a month, 60 a year. Go buy a PS3 game for 60 dollars and you'll get bored of it in a month, pay 60 to RS and you get a game you can enjoy for a whole year.

[Bxpprod]

Who are we to say what the motives of the individuals in charge are?

 

 

 

The customers. Without us, they'd be out of jobs. So, in the end, it is really us who are in charge.

 

 

 

You are not in the position to be able to state what one person is in ANYTHING for. Only one person can, and that is the person in question. Customers are in charge, but do NOT - I repeat NOT have mind reading capabilities.

[m4tty]

jagex is a company, why would someone make a company to help whiny 10 year olds who complain about EVERY update? ofcourse its for money. the membership charge being cheap is so kids can afford it and they can mass-gain members.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

Well, Jagex has no reason to close F2P as that still gives them profit. The advertisements pay for the F2P version of the game as well as a little extra on the side. It's not merely a 'demo', it is the game itself, but without member enhancements.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

The advertising in f2p, at best, allows them to break even, or sustain f2p. The reason they introduced members in the first place was so that they could sustain the game, as the advertising at the time wasn't enough.

 

Remember, RuneScape was F2P for an entire year before they added Membership benefits. If it was just "sustaining" F2P, they wouldn't last a single month on website maintenance or employee salaries.

 

 

 

And companies do care for their customers, even if it's not on the level of "Aw, he has cancer" sorta care. You can definitely tell when a company absolutely doesn't care about their customers.

 

 

 

One thing for sure though, Jagex does care about their game and it's quality.

 

 

 

 

 

To say that "Of course Jagex is profit-driven! They need to make money!" please tell me what businesses are out there to lose money? Just because they're trying to make money by 'enticing' people to subscribe to member benefits doesn't make them soulless demons out for your cash and care nothing for you!

 

 

 

If your neighbor was some Italian guy who emigrated to the US and started a restaurant, he may be the nicest guy you know but he didn't come here to lose money and be out there trying to 'care' for his every customer.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

To the people saying Jagex loses money by banning bots, I think they'd actually put more effort into banning them! Count up all the member bots. If you banned just as many every week, the next week all those gold farmers have to buy new memberships for just as many bots. In 2 weeks, Jagex would've made twice the money they would in a month from the same number of subscribers.

[Ss_J9_Goten]

The advertising in f2p, at best, allows them to break even, or sustain f2p. The reason they introduced members in the first place was so that they could sustain the game, as the advertising at the time wasn't enough.

 

Remember, RuneScape was F2P for an entire year before they added Membership benefits. If it was just "sustaining" F2P, they wouldn't last a single month on website maintenance or employee salaries.

 

 

 

From what I've heard, at the time RuneScape was their job. So the game grew, they needed more servers, more employees and more capital to keep the game running - money that the advertising could not supply. Plus their living expenses.

 

 

 

Who are we to say what the motives of the individuals in charge are?

 

 

 

The customers. Without us, they'd be out of jobs. So, in the end, it is really us who are in charge.

 

 

 

You are not in the position to be able to state what one person is in ANYTHING for. Only one person can, and that is the person in question. Customers are in charge, but do NOT - I repeat NOT have mind reading capabilities.

 

 

 

No, we don't have mind reading capabilities. We do, however, have the ability to question Jagex, to speculate. Blindly following and accepting what anyone says is extremely stupid.

[archangel]

Of course Jagex would have to update graphics,quests,etc otherwise there would be a definitive way to beat Runescape. Without quest updates alot of members would be training skills instead of quests, thus later on most members would get all the skills to 99. It's like saying McDonald's or Nike really care about other people in other countries. When they have sweatshops there and cheat the people living there.They set and illusion, a curtain of lies to shield themselves, face it corporations were made to maximize the profits. If Jagex honestly cares about the players and not much about money then why make Jagex? Why not just have a small business like what google started out with. If you've ever been to the Jagex homepage it's mainly about Runescape all the other games you could find on addictinggames or miniclip.

 

 

 

Player satisfaction? That must be a joke, if that were a main purpose why are there so many people getting away with "I'm sorry my cat accidently tryped it" or "A virus made my computer do it." Also, why did it take that long to mass ban the autoers and gold farmers. Why did they release Hunting that is so similar to Slayer when there are so many better skill ideas in their OWN forums. Why are the holiday specials so childish? Why so simple? Sure, simplicity is a main factor in why we play runescape. Why does it take so long to receive a simple computerized reply to your message to Jagex.

 

 

 

I know I'm assuming the worst in Jagex, but I've found that doing so will keep you from getting "hurt." This is like a child beleiving that the person playing their hero such as Batman or Superman is perfect and a real hero, but they all later realize that they were not what they seem like on t.v.

 

 

 

Also why do they have those ridiculous polls on the main page. They don't ask if we want a Hunting skill or if we would like new interfaces and graphic updates, if we wanted HD graphics we would play halo and WOW instead of runescape. Instead we get the most random and stupid questions that truly never develope into the game itself.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

If Jagex honestly cares about the players and not much about money then why make Jagex? Why not just have a small business like what google started out with. If you've ever been to the Jagex homepage it's mainly about Runescape all the other games you could find on addictinggames or miniclip.

 

You do know that Google is no longer the small business it once was? Most people try to actually expand their business as it gets successful... And The Jagex Homepage is more along the lines of "See what other games we've made" and the rest is all about business

 

 

 

Player satisfaction? That must be a joke, if that were a main purpose why are there so many people getting away with "I'm sorry my cat accidently tryped it" or "A virus made my computer do it." Also, why did it take that long to mass ban the autoers and gold farmers. Why did they release Hunting that is so similar to Slayer when there are so many better skill ideas in their OWN forums. Why are the holiday specials so childish? Why so simple? Sure, simplicity is a main factor in why we play runescape. Why does it take so long to receive a simple computerized reply to your message to Jagex.

 

You want simplicity? If you don't like the damn game then stop playing it! If the skills and holidays and quests are too "childish" for you then stop playing! Here you are complaining about how bad the game is, yet you still waste away at your computer playing it.

 

 

 

I know I'm assuming the worst in Jagex, but I've found that doing so will keep you from getting "hurt." This is like a child beleiving that the person playing their hero such as Batman or Superman is perfect and a real hero, but they all later realize that they were not what they seem like on t.v.Here you are saying not trusting people will keep you from getting hurt and saying it's like a 5 year old trusting something. Are you a 5 year old child who shouldn't trust people? And how the hell will you get hurt in trusting Jagex? And what the hell is it you're trusting? "I'm afraid to stand by Jagex's side cause I'm afraid I'll get screwed over and they'll come out with a bad update?"

 

 

 

Also why do they have those ridiculous polls on the main page. They don't ask if we want a Hunting skill or if we would like new interfaces and graphic updates, if we wanted HD graphics we would play halo and WOW instead of runescape. Instead we get the most random and stupid questions that truly never develope into the game itself.

 

FFS! STOP playing the game then!

[Ss_J9_Goten]

Of course Jagex would have to update graphics,quests,etc otherwise there would be a definitive way to beat Runescape. Without quest updates alot of members would be training skills instead of quests, thus later on most members would get all the skills to 99. It's like saying McDonald's or Nike really care about other people in other countries. When they have sweatshops there and cheat the people living there.They set and illusion, a curtain of lies to shield themselves, face it corporations were made to maximize the profits. If Jagex honestly cares about the players and not much about money then why make Jagex? Why not just have a small business like what google started out with. If you've ever been to the Jagex homepage it's mainly about Runescape all the other games you could find on addictinggames or miniclip.

 

 

 

So I suppose Jagex have woven a tapestry of deceit and are feeding us hamburgers full of lies? Jagex continually update and support this game, despite all the abuse hurled at them by the more vocal players. Like Locutus said, businesses grow.

 

 

 

So when you were on the Jagex homepage, did you see their "Giving Back" page? Or did you somehow miss that page? If Jagex were entirely profit driven, I doubt they would donate 200 thousand pounds to Charity, and I doubt they would spend money to help minimise their impact on the environment.

 

 

 

Player satisfaction? That must be a joke, if that were a main purpose why are there so many people getting away with "I'm sorry my cat accidently tryped it" or "A virus made my computer do it." Also, why did it take that long to mass ban the autoers and gold farmers. Why did they release Hunting that is so similar to Slayer when there are so many better skill ideas in their OWN forums. Why are the holiday specials so childish? Why so simple? Sure, simplicity is a main factor in why we play runescape. Why does it take so long to receive a simple computerized reply to your message to Jagex.

 

 

 

You see one of those every now and then and you immediately assume that's the case for most of them. I personally see one of those every few months at most, but a few who got through the cracks are not indicative of the whole. Hunter was a great skill in my opinion; if you don't like it, move on. Jagex can't please all of the people all of the time. I'm also curious as to how it is so similar to Slayer, so please enlighten me.

 

 

 

What would you do if you had the chance to design a holiday event? Some Rambo mission where you blow up the Grim Reaper for no apparent reason, during which you manage to woo his girlfriend and with plenty of blood and guts? They're just for fun; if you don't enjoy them, go and do something you will enjoy.

 

 

 

Just because you get the same (or similar) replies to your messages to Jagex does not mean they are reviewed and replied to by a computer; they may use pre written messages to save time on the vast amount of reports and queries they receive daily.

 

 

 

I know I'm assuming the worst in Jagex, but I've found that doing so will keep you from getting "hurt." This is like a child beleiving that the person playing their hero such as Batman or Superman is perfect and a real hero, but they all later realize that they were not what they seem like on t.v.

 

 

 

So you think it's better to have a sheltered existence? You get hurt, you learn. If something bad happens, you dust yourself off and get back up. It's good to get hurt every now and then, otherwise you'll never be able to handle the real world, let alone all those scammers and whatnot on RuneScape.

 

 

 

 

Also why do they have those ridiculous polls on the main page. They don't ask if we want a Hunting skill or if we would like new interfaces and graphic updates, if we wanted HD graphics we would play halo and WOW instead of runescape. Instead we get the most random and stupid questions that truly never develope into the game itself.

 

 

 

I'd like to know which polls you think are ridiculous; the only one I can think of is the 'How well do you know RuneScape" quiz done recently. Jagex can't please every single player with every single update. So if it's not your cup of tea, move on. I find the new interfaces easier to use than the old ones. Jagex asking if graphics are a main concern tells them if they should update the graphics. The polls are a good way for Jagex to find out what areas of RuneScape the players want updated.

[m4tty]

jagex could handle the 200 f2p players with ads with NO p2p but now if they closed down p2p they would probably die out fast, maybe break even cos of ads... the only reason they help customers is so they dont desubscribe.

[Sam]

I hear Jagex's net worth is ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã320,000,000. :shock: