manaleak Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 In terms of training, which of these two are better? Head: Archer Helm Neck: Amulet of Fury Cape: Accumulator Full Black DHide Archer Ring Ranger Boots Magic Short Bow + Rune Arrows Or Head: Archer Helm Neck: Amulet of Fury Cape: Accumulator Full Black DHide Ring: Archer Ring Boots: Ranger Boots Rune Crossbow + Diamond Bolts (e) + Unholy Book From my point of view, magic short bow is slightly better because of its speed. Although the cbow hits harder and more often (and has the built in ability to lower range def to be even more so), the msb makes up for it by shooting 1.5 times faster. So for example, I hit 16's with msb, and 22-23 with cbow, but msb: 16*1.5 = 24. However I haven't collected any data with this yet, so the accuracy factor of the cbow might play a factor and beat the msb. Any of you guys have a say? RSN: Manaleak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudecrush8 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Training wise the MSB is far far better... But for damage, you cant beat a rune c'bow :) "300 programmers make their futile but glorious last stand against 1000000 angry players in The battle of Misthalin. They fight for honor, glory and new content sacrificing themselves so that their game may live on. This is Madness! This Is JAGEEEX!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Train with MSB then pk or whatever with c bow Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidium Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 it really depends on what you are doing...but ill say the rune cbow is better due to all the enchanted bolts. well with a ruby bolt ppl can hit above 50 (thats only on creatures like metal drags though :P) but still thats much more than what the msb can hit...for killing monsters with a large amount of hp most ppl will chose the rune cbow and btw they dont usually use diamond (e) they use ruby (e) cause of its special effect. initially one may be inclined to think that ppl only use rune cbow on drags since you can wield the anti dragon fire breath shield with it...but hey you dont see ppl fighting the bosses in the GWD with msb do u? for pking, the special effect of the ruby (e) bolts are not that useful anymore since all our max hp is 99. on the other hand the msb has its special effect which many use as a killer combo when the opponents health is down. so ill say the rune cbow would be better when slaying certain monsters while the msb may prove to be more deadly when pking. maxed out melee on 10/10/08, current goal: 94/99 cookinglife may be unfair, but why can't it be unfair in my favor?my fake plant died because i forgot to pretend to water it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Skill Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Rune c'bow would be better for training because using rune arrows for training is a huge waste of money. Addy bolts to my knowledge are cheaper than rune arrows, hit slightly slower, but a lot higher. Pirate Rosetta stone. Learn a language while you scape.Sounds interesting, but these days how many people really speak Pirate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Are you looking for speed entirely, or being cost-effective? For speed I would definitely say MSB with rune arrows, providing that is the ammo you have to use. With these two ammo types, the Xbow would be more cost-effective. PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 It really depends on who you are training on. If you are doing it on demons/giants, the best choice would be to use iron-mith knives/darts. For green/blue dragons who have higher defence, you will need a higher range bonus, but a msb could do fine. For black and metal dragons who have real high defence, your best bet would be c'bow + bolts (usually emerald e). Ruby or diamond bolts e are NOT worth using unless killing boss monsters (probably >lvl300) or pking that you use dstone bolts and up. Your suggested ammo for training is quite a waste of money. Strangely with WotLK so near, I wished I could delay it a bit to push through that last TBC content in MH/BT :'(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbk_hossack Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 i can hit 20s with rune cbow and emerelad (e) bolts and no where near as high with MSB 38% of Tip.Iters put stupid made up statistics in their sigs. If you are one of the 62% that don't, put this in your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaleak Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Money is really not an issue, so 10k rune arrows = 10k diamond bolts for all purposes. Although I would like to know the durability of diamond bolts, are they more or less than rune arrows? I thought rune arrows went for 350-400 and diamond bolts could go up for 1k each; wouldn't that make the rune arrows more cost-effective? Again, money's no issue and I only care about training effectiveness. I'm currently training in the tzhaar caves if that helps. RSN: Manaleak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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