destro3979 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 every once in awhile i am very tired and just go to bed without turning my computer off. so i wake up in the morning and it is frozen on one of the start up screens!?!? so i go over see if i can do anything... i cant so i shut it off and restart it it starts to load... get to that screen... then nothing... it doesn't even get to the part were you can hit F8 i have had no problems so far with this computer i scan it every other day or so with Avast! and spy bot im also very careful on the internet i cant see any reason why this has happened also i have unplugged everything and replugged it... that didn't change anything anyone have an idea????? New Sig Coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pkmastachaos Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Sounds like you might've burnt out the motherboard to me, or some other part of your computer. Although its just my guess, I'm not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to computers. But you shouldn't have been so careless, turn off the computer before you head to bed, even if you are that tired, it takes less then a minute. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destro3979 Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 ya thats sorta what i was thinking i know its only takes a min i just didn't think anything like that would happen so i didn't bother New Sig Coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das1330 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 its not the motherboard, My guess is the hard drive is dead, or some file got corrupted. If the motherboard or processor failed, the computer wouldn't turn on at all (POST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamdan Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I would first advise to take the whole thing apart and put it back together, it's worked for me in situations like this before. If that doesn't work, you will need to find out which part is gone, and replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destro3979 Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 ok... i fixed it but i would still like to know what happened if anyone knows i took everything apart... but i want paying attention and left one memory stick out i turned it on and it worked... i then realized i forgot it so i put it pack it (turned the comp of first of course) then it didn't work when i turned it on i took it out again and it worked fine so im guessing that the memory stick got corrupted or something anyone know of some good memory i could get? the bigger the better as long as it isnt too expensive i currently have 4 512mb (3 now...) New Sig Coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Well, good job finding your own problem. Thats the correct to finding bad memory too (unless you use memtest). Anyway I could suggest what speed to get and brands but I have no idea what type your computer has (DDR or DDR2). Find out what type and the speed of the memory sticks. Most likely you should just get another 512mb stick so you can get the 2GBs of ram your use to and keep running in dual channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I think you may have overloaded the memory capacity of the computer, and caused it to overload during startup. Usually computers that start off with 512mb memory don't or can't take any higher, unless you set up the computer to take it. Either that, or you could just remove all three 512 memory, and just replace it with a 1024mb memory drive. Then clean up your computer. Save any files you have to drive, start it up back at day one from system restore. THEN replace the memory after getting your computer back up. If the computer was running with all four for awhile, then it may just be coincidence that it was working, and just finally gave out, and blew out that one memory stick. I would still personally remove all three, and replace them all with a single 1G memory card. 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I think you may have overloaded the memory capacity of the computer, and caused it to overload during startup. Usually computers that start off with 512mb memory don't or can't take any higher, unless you set up the computer to take it. Either that, or you could just remove all three 512 memory, and just replace it with a 1024mb memory drive. Then clean up your computer. Save any files you have to drive, start it up back at day one from system restore. THEN replace the memory after getting your computer back up. If the computer was running with all four for awhile, then it may just be coincidence that it was working, and just finally gave out, and blew out that one memory stick. I would still personally remove all three, and replace them all with a single 1G memory card. If the motherboard did not support that much ram, it would not boot at all. If it didn't support it, the motherboard just wouldn't just "kill" a ram stick to get under the limit. So your telling him to remove all the memory has (2GB) and go to a 1GB stick so he has half the memory and running in single channel? :roll: Typically when a motherboard has 4 memory slots, it supports at least 2GB of ram, most of the time it's 4GB+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destro3979 Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 I think you may have overloaded the memory capacity of the computer, and caused it to overload during startup. Usually computers that start off with 512mb memory don't or can't take any higher, unless you set up the computer to take it. Either that, or you could just remove all three 512 memory, and just replace it with a 1024mb memory drive. Then clean up your computer. Save any files you have to drive, start it up back at day one from system restore. THEN replace the memory after getting your computer back up. If the computer was running with all four for awhile, then it may just be coincidence that it was working, and just finally gave out, and blew out that one memory stick. I would still personally remove all three, and replace them all with a single 1G memory card. If the motherboard did not support that much ram, it would not boot at all. If it didn't support it, the motherboard just wouldn't just "kill" a ram stick to get under the limit. So your telling him to remove all the memory has (2GB) and go to a 1GB stick so he has half the memory and running in single channel? :roll: Typically when a motherboard has 4 memory slots, it supports at least 2GB of ram, most of the time it's 4GB+. i do have 4 slots and the motherboard can support that much.. it has for 2 years 4gb would be nice =P~ but im not sure if i got the money also it s a DDR... i cant seem to find the pin ill look better tomorrow New Sig Coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I'm probably wrong..but, maybe the computer overheated and something got overloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agira Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 If computer stuck on BIOS hardware detection page and before it PC worked normally then big possibility then some hardware not work fine or not plugged correctly, like you found then is one Memory slot - possible to insert it not fully in to motherboard in this way you can get similar or more tragical result. Really you are right, you found problem result, but not reason, that kind probem with RAM can happen if you used for example wrong voltage on it or over-clocked him, is like if you overclocked your CPU that can be that kind reason i think too, because CPU frequency is generated from main Chipset bus fequency just multiplied some times, but ram use chipset bus fequency and if this fequency to hight - RAM will work but one day just die. RAM is one from more sensitive PC parts and you can damage just touching it, any man have statical electricity charges and sometimes with one touch of some computer parts possible to damage they totally, RAM is very sensitive from it and if you get it in hands try to not touch contact places. Another thing can be then your RAM contacts just are oxidized and just no contact for some RAM sygnals, helps then cleanup of contacts, but if he worked some time not fully connected (you enabled sometimes it when not worked - it can be enought) this can do damage to RAM too. Coputer parts faster get oxidized in damp or cold rooms or places. Other thing is Power Supplies, here is 2 things what can be problem from they: 1. At this times computer components take so much energy and if your supply is low on Wats some digital electronic parts after some time get damaged and RAM like one from more sensitive things got it first, if problem in it - it's very bad sygnal and after some time other parts can get damaged too, you can get some voltmeter and check red and black cables from power supply voltage: RED must be +5 Vcc (Volts) YELLOW must be +12 Vcc (Volts) BLACK is GND (Ground) If you see then you get less then 5 Volts checking red and black (must be not less then 5V) then problem is in it then Your Power supply is not enought powerfull and all circuits on PC components works on the border of possibilities. 2. In that times i saw a lot bad quality power supplies then power supply sometimes burned Motherboards and CPU's and HDDs (it happen oce to me too :( ), they just work fine but because they are impulsive type (without transformator usage) sometimes do voltage jumps and it can be enought to damage any PC part, then better to chose Power Supply manufactured in good company or maybye you need to give it to check. Really sorry for poor broken english i know these things not bad just to explain all things in english is so hard for me :) Suggestion: You can use Anchor on Waterfiends - is cheap if to compare to GS & effective with crush attack & it hit like Whip.Visit my exp track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 What a load of crap. You do know that computer components can just die? Usually due to overuse or heat. And if the computer was on all the time it might have just been too much for the stick to handle. There doesn't have to be a specific reason for it, I had to laugh at the technical explanation above though. You stick it into a slot, you switch on the PC. If it works who cares about voltage settings etc... Admittedly if he'd been overclocking with higher voltages it may have caused the RAM to give up quicker but if he had OC'd then he'd know a little about computers and wouldn't be asking questions in here. If you're going for new ram, go with identical pairs and buy branded memory. Corsair, Kingston, Crucial, GEIL, OCZ etc... I'm just rambling now... Have a nice day. Notoriously Trollish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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