Bare-Handed Fishing

[ojeremyj]

After you finish the barbarian training, can you use bare-handed fishing in f2p worlds as well as members worlds? Also, is there any difference in catch rate? Thanks.

[nicrune007]

I dont think you can do it in F2p because this is a member feature

 

The difference in rate im not sure

[ojeremyj]

Just like agility doesn't give you a regen bonus and you can't don colored gloves in the free worlds, right?

 

 

 

Thanks for trying dude, but that did not answer either of my questions with any certainty. Does anyone know for sure?

[Sy_Accursed]

bare-handing fishing is a members only feature and therefore does not work in free worlds.

 

 

 

As for catch rate it is the same as normalfishing, the difference is that you get str and agility xpfor it.

 

 

 

As for the 2 you listed trying to sound smart about members in f2p worlds

 

 

 

gloves are an item that are tradable to free players and prove nothing when talking of skill based abilities

 

 

 

The agility regeneration is an unusual case. The energy state reads your agility level and weight to calculate drain and regen rate. Regardless of your world you still have your agility stat, just untrainable, therefore the energy system still picks it up. This is most likely due to the fact that "base" regen of energy comes from 1 agility, whihc all new accounts have, therefore making it impossible to switch off

[Darkdoom]

Just like agility doesn't give you a regen bonus and you can't don colored gloves in the free worlds, right?

 

 

 

Thanks for trying dude, but that did not answer either of my questions with any certainty. Does anyone know for sure?

 

 

 

On the contrary, agility regen does work in f2p.

[Crunchbag]

 

On the contrary, agility regen does work in f2p.

 

 

 

Ever heard of sarcasm? :D

[Master_Smither]

 

On the contrary, agility regen does work in f2p.

 

 

 

Ever heard of sarcasm? :D

 

 

 

Sarcasm is for 8 year olds :|

[ojeremyj]

"Making it impossible"? Are you joking? I'll admit that the Jagex programmers are lazy, but even they could make agility not work at all in free worlds if they really wanted to. Just like how it would be easy to make it possible to bare-handed fish in the free world. Easier than making it only possible in the member's worlds, for that matter.

 

 

 

And don't give me any crap about how I was just "trying to sound smart". I was pointing out the fact that his assumptions based on no actual evidence are useless. I asked a question which would be fairly easy for any member with 55 fishing to verify in about 2 minutes. He gave me an "I don't think" answer, which is about as useful as the "I don't know" answer he gave for the other question. With that said, thank you for actually answering the questions. I will assume you are speaking from experience or knowledge from a reliable source.

 

 

 

And for the record, it was ironic, not sarcastic.

[wioneo]

 

And for the record, it was ironic, not sarcastic.

 

 

 

Just for the record, you're completely wrong. That was sarcasm. To stop this from being classified as a flame, I'd like to add that bare-handed fishing does not work in free worlds, it is a bit slower than normal harpooning, and you can only catch bass until you reach I higher fishing level than I had when I finished the training. One last note...

 

 

 

EDIT: Inappropriate comment removed - McGuff1

[ojeremyj]

The only definition of sarcasm by the Oxford English Dictionary:

 

 

 

"A sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt. Now usually in generalized sense: Sarcastic language; sarcastic meaning or purpose"

 

 

 

My remark was not sharp, not bitter, and not cutting. It was far too subtle to be considered any of those, evidenced by the fact that someone actually thought I was being serious.

 

 

 

One of several definitions of irony by the OED:

 

 

 

"A figure of speech in which the intended meaning is the opposite of that expressed by the words used"

 

 

 

Wow, that definition of irony sure fits the description of what I said earlier. How amazing. See, "How amazing" was sarcasm. Are you getting the difference yet?

 

 

 

Also, you can catch bass with bare-handed? I thought it was only tuna, swords, and sharks.

[Mamong]

The only definition of sarcasm by the Oxford English Dictionary:

 

 

 

"A sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt. Now usually in generalized sense: Sarcastic language; sarcastic meaning or purpose"

 

 

 

My remark was not sharp, not bitter, and not cutting. It was far too subtle to be considered any of those, evidenced by the fact that someone actually thought I was being serious.

 

 

 

One of several definitions of irony by the OED:

 

 

 

"A figure of speech in which the intended meaning is the opposite of that expressed by the words used"

 

 

 

Wow, that definition of irony sure fits the description of what I said earlier. How amazing. See, "How amazing" was sarcasm. Are you getting the difference yet?

 

 

 

You asked a question, you got your answer. Cut the crap, no one cares.

[Sy_Accursed]

"Making it impossible"? Are you joking? I'll admit that the Jagex programmers are lazy, but even they could make agility not work at all in free worlds if they really wanted to. Just like how it would be easy to make it possible to bare-handed fish in the free world. Easier than making it only possible in the member's worlds, for that matter.

 

 

 

And don't give me any crap about how I was just "trying to sound smart". I was pointing out the fact that his assumptions based on no actual evidence are useless. I asked a question which would be fairly easy for any member with 55 fishing to verify in about 2 minutes. He gave me an "I don't think" answer, which is about as useful as the "I don't know" answer he gave for the other question. With that said, thank you for actually answering the questions. I will assume you are speaking from experience or knowledge from a reliable source.

 

 

 

And for the record, it was ironic, not sarcastic.

 

 

 

I'll admit it's not entirely impossible in pure Java HOWEVER Jagex work in a limited runescript, therefore making it probably near impossible.

 

 

 

Plus as I said if agility regen takes your agility lvl to work its speed out its safe to say that the automatic lvl 1 agility is the base regen. This being said when a member goes onto a free world they still have a higher agility lvl going into the equation to calculate energy regen. and in coding it is easy enough to tell an object (eg a skill cape or gate) to take a different function of certain servers, but it is not so easy to tell an equation to suddenly ignore the agility stat and jsut use 1 no matter what on a free world.

 

 

 

And it still stands you were being snipey and trying to sound smart through your sarcasm by pointing out the two known members things that f2p can do/get - throwing knowledge to counter someones point is a counter arguement. Doing it was sarcasm (or irony as you think it was) just makes it an attempt to sound smarter than them and belittle them as in "haha you don't know this an I do"

[ojeremyj]

Since when is it not alright to belittle someone who gives you a stupid, worthless answer in a forum setting? More importantly, when did it become a bad thing to use knowledge in a counter argument?

 

 

 

Also, you don't even have to tell the game to use a different equation. All you do is put a line of code in when logging onto a free world that says "free = 1"

 

and a line in the energy regen equation that says "if free = 1, then rate = whatever-it-is-when-agility-is-1" Yes, it's more work, but so is the whole division between member and free worlds.

 

 

 

Mamong, you're completely wrong.

[agira]

We with friend tested agility regeneration in F2P, we runned from lumbridge to near rimmington and then stayed and typed our precents one to other.

 

 

 

Is like about 3 times faster regenerated energy on man with 75 agility then on man with 1 agility lvl, just when you run is no diference in agility levels, but when you stay your energy regenerate depends from your agility level.

[ojeremyj]

We with friend tested agility regeneration in F2P, we runned from lumbridge to near rimmington and then stayed and typed our precents one to other.

 

 

 

Is like about 3 times faster regenerated energy on man with 75 agility then on man with 1 agility lvl, just when you run is no diference in agility levels, but when you stay your energy regenerate depends from your agility level.

 

 

 

Totally off topic... But 3 times? Really? I have 42 agility and it regens almost exactly twice as fast as 1 agility. Do you still have the exact times it took to regen a certain amount? I was under the impression that it was sort of a logarithmic equation with a reduced rate of return for each successive agility level.

[Sy_Accursed]

Since when is it not alright to belittle someone who gives you a stupid, worthless answer in a forum setting? More importantly, when did it become a bad thing to use knowledge in a counter argument?

 

 

 

Also, you don't even have to tell the game to use a different equation. All you do is put a line of code in when logging onto a free world that says "free = 1"

 

and a line in the energy regen equation that says "if free = 1, then rate = whatever-it-is-when-agility-is-1" Yes, it's more work, but so is the whole division between member and free worlds.

 

 

 

Mamong, you're completely wrong.

 

 

 

Its always wrong to belittle someone, no matter what they do. Belittle someone is immature and wrong.

 

 

 

Also i never said it was bad to use knowledge, I said it was bad to use it sarcastically

 

 

 

And again you fail to pay attention

 

 

 

Its all very well writing that code in BASE JAVASCRIPT but runescape is coded in RUNESCRIPT, its a totally different ballgame and something non of use know the limitations of as we do not work for Jagex. Sure they could probably work it in if they got andrew to code runescript to allow such a code, which is what they do when they need to do new things, but given that this has not been done it is safe to assume current runescript does not allow such a function and that they don;t wnat to do it anyway

[ojeremyj]

Its always wrong to belittle someone, no matter what they do. Belittle someone is immature and wrong.

 

 

 

Also i never said it was bad to use knowledge, I said it was bad to use it sarcastically

 

 

 

And again you fail to pay attention

 

 

 

Its all very well writing that code in BASE JAVASCRIPT but runescape is coded in RUNESCRIPT, its a totally different ballgame and something non of use know the limitations of as we do not work for Jagex. Sure they could probably work it in if they got andrew to code runescript to allow such a code, which is what they do when they need to do new things, but given that this has not been done it is safe to assume current runescript does not allow such a function and that they don;t wnat to do it anyway

 

 

 

Yes, it's safe to assume they don't want to do it. But to make it so that it doesn't allow for basic variable and if, then statements is fairly absurd. Mind you, I'm not saying you're being absurd. It's quite possible that that's the truth. If so, they're the one's being stupid.

 

 

 

As to the rest of it, I admit that belittling someone is usually wrong. I misunderstood the meaning of the word before that post I made. I apologize for that temporary ignorance.

 

 

 

Still, I was not belittling him. As far as I can tell, my doing so did not affect nicrune in any negative way, nor was it intended to. I was using irony to make a point about his assumptions being useless when actual evidence would only have been a few clicks away. Never did I say anything that could have been viewed in the same light as "haha you don't know this an I do". I was actually assuming that he did know those facts. My entire point would have been lost if he didn't know those things. Using irony is a very, very valid way of making a point in writing. It highlights exactly why someone is wrong in such a way that makes them rethink their incorrect position.

 

 

 

This is getting way off topic. Paw_Claw if you want to continue this, feel free to post it up in the rants forum. I'll keep an eye out for the next day or so.

 

 

 

EDIT: Might be more appropriate in the off topic forum. Not really sure. If you post somewhere, pm me or reply here.