Mercifull Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 For me? Neither. But in the future when they're a lot cheaper, BluRay. I don't understand why people would want an inferior technologyVHS was technically inferior to Betamax... Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 For me? Neither. But in the future when they're a lot cheaper, BluRay. I don't understand why people would want an inferior technologyVHS was technically inferior to Betamax... 85% of consumers opt for a PC over a Mac.... go figure. Just because something is more advanced, doesn't mean it will win. There's lots of other factors at work, not least of which is cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 For me? Neither. But in the future when they're a lot cheaper, BluRay. I don't understand why people would want an inferior technologyVHS was technically inferior to Betamax... 85% of consumers opt for a PC over a Mac.... go figure. Just because something is more advanced, doesn't mean it will win. There's lots of other factors at work, not least of which is cost. Mercifull's analogy was reasonable because we're still talking about storage media.. but PC/Mac? Come on :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 For me? Neither. But in the future when they're a lot cheaper, BluRay. I don't understand why people would want an inferior technologyVHS was technically inferior to Betamax... 85% of consumers opt for a PC over a Mac.... go figure. Just because something is more advanced, doesn't mean it will win. There's lots of other factors at work, not least of which is cost. Not a good analogy Harrington, lol. Especially since PC's are more advanced :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Eh besides storage capacity is there a difference? HD-DVD is region free, Blu-Ray is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 For me? Neither. But in the future when they're a lot cheaper, BluRay. I don't understand why people would want an inferior technologyVHS was technically inferior to Betamax... 85% of consumers opt for a PC over a Mac.... go figure. Just because something is more advanced, doesn't mean it will win. There's lots of other factors at work, not least of which is cost. Not a good analogy Harrington, lol. Especially since PC's are more advanced :wink: Why not? :( The Mac is considerably more advanced than the PC, it looks better, and is far more reliable with a much better operating system. Yet the vast majority of consumers opt for the cheaper, inferior PC (inluding myself lol). The reason is simple... cost, availability and compatibility. The analogy applies as blu-ray is a superior tech to HD-DVDs however, will likely lose the battle due to costs and lack of titles. The analogy fits perfecty lol :mrgreen: Another good example is the PS3 vs the Wii. Despite the PS3 being the most advanced tech', it's being outsold by the Wii 6 to 1!!! Why? Simple... cost again. I'm confident HD-DVDs will win in the end for the reasons listed above. I'm so confident, I've already asked the Missus to buy me an HD player for my Xmas :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Considerably more advanced? :lol: It looks better I'll give you that, but the PC has endless configurations compared to the Mac. Mac Pro doesn't even offer the Geforce 8 Series Saying OS X is better than Vista for ex. is reaching as it is, but the hardware? Haha. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 You're missing the point, lets get back to the HD discussions now Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Sure thing General Troll Bluray sales account for 71% recently. I think it's hopeless trying to buy HD DVD. Even with Paramount's support, it's just not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Depends where u get ure stats from. Toshiba report a 55% HD DVD lead vs Blu-ray at 42% for number of players sold and Adams Media Research puts it at 58%. Its far to early to say what's going to be the winner yet no matter how many stats and figures you pull off for either/or. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Players != Discs Even then, those numbers don't include PS3 sales which is *the* most attractive (not just aesthetically speaking) Bluray player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Players != Discs Even then, those numbers don't include PS3 sales which is *the* most attractive (not just aesthetically speaking) Bluray playerAnd it also does not include the Xbox 360 HD-DVD player... Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Players != Discs Even then, those numbers don't include PS3 sales which is *the* most attractive (not just aesthetically speaking) Bluray playerAnd it also does not include the Xbox 360 HD-DVD player... You know you just helped prove that what you said was BS right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 What I proved was that you can get statistics to support either argument. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 If that makes you feel better, then alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted October 21, 2007 Author Share Posted October 21, 2007 What I proved was that you can get statistics to support either argument. Like Mercifull said... totally depends on the source of statistics. If either format had a REAL lead, then they'd be the first to publish those stats and we'd all know about it. Gotta keep the shareholders happy... and not mislead them (Like Dreamworks did). What I'm trying to say is that if one format truly did have a clear sales lead, then trust me... they'd be the first to let everyone know. These "independent" stat collectors are for the most part, being encouraged by the individual formats with backhanders and other incentives. Even the honest ones simply aren't collecting the data correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 So wait. You don't believe research from Nielsen and prefer to hear the companies talk about their sales? Uhh... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 So wait. You don't believe research from Nielsen and prefer to hear the companies talk about their sales? Uhh... :lol:Nielsen still only gets their data from samples. There is no census survey to find this all out so you can ":lol:" and ":roll:" all you like but it doesn't make you right. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 You're right But I'm just laughing because corporations won't openly discuss sales because it's acceptance(?) by the consumers is incredibly slow. If you're comparing BR:HDDVD, one might come up on top. But once you include the sales of DVDs, then the next-gen hype just crumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 People want HD content but we have all grown accustomed to cheap DVD and player prices and nobody wants to fork out half a grand for a player and ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâã30 for a movie when it might not win the format war. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 People want HD content but we have all grown accustomed to cheap DVD and player prices and nobody wants to fork out half a grand for a player and ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâã30 for a movie when it might not win the format war. Yup, in a nutshell really lol. Guess we're gonna have to wait a good bit longer before there is clear winner and we can eventually spend our hard earned money ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 After hearing the news last night, that Warner have decided to go exclusive on blu-ray, I've finally decided to go with the blu-ray format (Matrix yay!) So, bought a PS3 today, woohoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 After hearing the news last night, that Warner have decided to go exclusive on blu-ray, I've finally decided to go with the blu-ray format (Matrix yay!) So, bought a PS3 today, woohoo! Still is kind of up in the air, but Blu-ray looks like it has a better chance. Here is a link to a pie graph with each studio, how big of market share they have, and what format they chose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 After hearing the news last night, that Warner have decided to go exclusive on blu-ray, I've finally decided to go with the blu-ray format (Matrix yay!) So, bought a PS3 today, woohoo! Still is kind of up in the air, but Blu-ray looks like it has a better chance. Here is a link to a pie graph with each studio, how big of market share they have, and what format they chose. Great pie chart. It certainly makes the battle more interesting. I wonder how Universal and Paramount will react to Warner jumping formats. The future of the HD-DVD format would definately be in doubt if either of those two leave it, whereas Blu-ray could probably handle losing one or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Great pie chart. It certainly makes the battle more interesting. I wonder how Universal and Paramount will react to Warner jumping formats. The future of the HD-DVD format would definately be in doubt if either of those two leave it, whereas Blu-ray could probably handle losing one or more. Apparently digg users are on the Blu-ray bandwagon, so I got a lot of propaganda from there that may or may not be true, but some were saying that Universal decided to go both formats. EDIT: More info. This link says New Line decided to switch to Blu-Ray, but that Universal is still up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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