Amazing Smithing Technique

[0burntrice0]

1. Introduction:

 

- Two days ago i discovered a new smithing technique, i've never seen it in any guides and since starting it two days ago i've gone from 85 to 87 smithing. I'm so excited about this i just had to share it with you guys!

 

 

 

I'm sure everyone who's tried to level up fast has tried buying gold ores and smithing them, great xp but very expensive. The bars sell for peanuts. Until now smithing has been a huge hole i've thrown well over 20 million into.. until now!

 

 

 

 

 

2. Requirments:

 

- Cash, 200k will see you good for hours.

 

- 60 Smithing.

 

- Goldsmithing Gloves from the 'Family Crest' quest.

 

- High alching equipment.

 

- A hammer.

 

- Knowlege of making 'gold bowls' from the 'legends' quest (its learnt about 10 mins into the quest, no need to finish it if you dont want to)

 

 

 

 

 

3. Location:

 

- The Blast Furnace in Keldagrim.

 

 

 

 

 

4. Technique:

 

- Grab your alching equipment, wear your goldsmith gloves and head to the keldagrim blast furnace.

 

- Buy gold ores from shop at the blast furnace.

 

- Smelt the ores in the blast furnace.

 

- Use the near by anvil to make the gold bars into gold bowls.

 

- High alch the bowls and return to buy more ores.. repeat.

 

 

 

 

 

5. Various facts:

 

- Gold bowls can somtimes fail when you attempt to make them.

 

- Each gold bowl gives 30xp and uses 2 bars of gold and high alchs for 420gp

 

- Smithing gold normaly gives 22xp, with gloves 56xp, making bowls can work out upto an amazing 71xp per ore.

 

- This is not profitable but the outlay is small compared to the xp earnt.

 

 

 

 

 

6. Tips:

 

- To lower your costs give yourself a limit when buying gold, i dont buy if the stock is 85 or lower, this way i only spend 297 per gold ore.

 

- Use world 58 (the blast furnace themed world) gold is almost always fully stocked.. unless i'm in there :D

 

- If you do need to hop worlds for ores, fill the furnace and your inventory and return to world 58, let others work them furnace while you smith and alch.

 

 

 

 

 

7. Conclusion:

 

 

 

- This really is amazing, more xp than the normal gold technique at only a fraction of the cost.

 

- Today i have earned 280k xp doing this, its cost me around 140k gp. Buying ores from other players would have cost me 2.75 million at the 'good' price of 500 per ore.

 

 

 

I cant urge everyone enough to try this, its simply amazing!!

[dillingham1]

very nice i am going to try this when i get time thank you very much

[Kaphias]

Already in another guide, and by my memory, the bowls can't be noted, therefore alching them is an inconvenience.

[Freesia]

A nice method but comparing to mith plates at blast furnace...

 

 

 

1)Mith plates would have a higher exp/hr at 80 smithing exp per ore with the fact that gold bowls are smithed from 2 bars compared to 5 bars from a plate.

 

 

 

2)You are also making a profit of around 40gp(or less) per bowl only if you rced your own nats. For the same results, using rced nats gives 400-600 per plate alched. When buy nats, this method will cost you but with only reduced profits doing mith plates.

 

 

 

3)You are very dependant on the stock from ordan. Having your own noted gold ores would only cost more if bought or takes pretty long if you mine them. For mith ores, mith ores are almost never depleted in stock, you can get coal from mtk as well.

 

 

 

Conclusion: Mith ores still wins gold ores in comparison :|

[0burntrice0]

Already in another guide, and by my memory, the bowls can't be noted, therefore alching them is an inconvenience.

 

 

 

I know the gold bowls thing is common knowledge. This main point of this guide is the blast furnace, which as far as i've seen is not mentioned in other guides. No one else does it, or at least in the time i've been using the blast furnace, no one else is buying gold ores down there.

 

 

 

 

 

The blast furnace benefits are:

 

 

 

- Your right, bowls cant be noted, but you dont need to. Make them and alch them down there in the same you would with mith plates for example, no inconvenience what so ever. Buy / Smelt / Smith / Alch / Repeat

 

- Cheap gold ores.

 

- You never have to leave the furnace, no trips to a bank needed.

 

 

 

 

 

Without a doubt there is no 'faster and cheaper' way to raise smithing.

[0burntrice0]

Worth considering...

 

 

 

1) One mith plate uses 15 ores (5 mith and 10 coal) and earns 280xp, thats 18.6 xp per ore.

 

 

 

2) Say you have nats, cash and a hammer in your inventory, thats 25 spaces for ores. Put 25 gold in, get 25 bars out and a max of 1780 xp 'per round'

 

 

 

In comparison with mith..

 

 

 

Nats, hammer, cash, noted coal and noted mith, 23 spaces for mith ores which is only enough for four plates, 1120 xp 'per round'

 

 

 

Gold is quicker and better xp.

 

 

 

 

 

3) Alot of people obtain mith down there, gold however is almost always fully stocked. In fact you'll either spend more money exchanging your notes when theres little in stock, or more time hopping worlds too sell and buy at a fully stocked shop.

 

 

 

4) You got me on the price, my guide is not profitable but it sure is a cheap alternative to the fastest way of smithing, Gold.

[Kaphias]

Without a doubt there is no 'faster and cheaper' way to raise smithing.

 

Take a plow through this.

[Owned_Nex]

Not originaly, MANy guides on this matter. Look through the SEARCH button?

 

 

 

Blast furnac and mith plates is much better.

[0burntrice0]

I'd looked at that guide last night, there's no mention of either buying or smithing gold ores at the blast furnace, which is the whole point of my guide. In fact, and i quote "12) The Blast Furnace - An alternative to gold." is one of the headings.

 

 

 

Yes i've also searched for posts containing the words gold, blast and furnace, could not find any mentioning this technique.

 

 

 

Anyhow this is all irrelevent, i'm just pleased with myself because no one told me about this, it's not on any 'front end' (excluding forums) skill guides on this site or the other pupolar rs fan sites, which was all i used till i found the wealth of information on these forums.

 

 

 

When you say "Blast furnac and mith plates is much better" i can only presume you talking about cash, in that case your right, Mith plates are finatially the better option.

 

 

 

Its a well know fact that gold + goldsmithing gauntlets are better xp than making mith plates. Gold + goldsmithig gauntlets + gold bowls simply blow mith plates out of the water. I used to make mith plates, nailed 10 levels on them so i'm talking from experience having used both methods.

 

 

 

With this guide:

 

- There's no need to pay 550gp per ore from other players.

 

- No losing money by selling and buying back noted ores.

 

- No need to spend weeks mining gold just to go up one smith level.

 

 

 

Dont knock it till you've tried it!

[Lodewijk66]

great surely gonna try this =]

[frexeg]

How much would 99 smithing using this technique cost?

[Lemurian]

Gonna try this when I get my MTK-cash. I need some levels for Devious Minds...

[0burntrice0]

How much would 99 smithing using this technique cost?

 

 

 

To be honest i've no idea but plan to do it for a couple of hours today and collect some stats, i'll post the results.

[0burntrice0]

Hmm maths never has been my strong point, feel free to recalculate this and correct me if i'm wrong..

 

 

 

I completed a 2 hour test and started with:

 

 

 

4027207 Smithing XP

 

100k Cash

 

500 Nats

 

 

 

After 2 hours i had:

 

 

 

4074491 Smithing XP

 

61972 Cash

 

207 Nats

 

 

 

Soo..

 

 

 

48,028 Smithing XP gained

 

38,028 Cash spent

 

293 Nats used

 

122,998 Total cash spent if buying nats @ 290 each

 

 

 

Right, now the bit i'm no good at..

 

Cash:

 

122,998 / 48,028 = 2.560gp per 1 xp (Cash spent divided by xp)

 

13,034,431 - 273,742 = 12,760689 xp (Level 99 xp minus Level 60 xp)

 

12760689 * 2.560 = 32,667,363gp (xp to level 99 times cost per xp)

 

 

 

Time:

 

48028 / 2 = 24014 xp per hour (xp earnt divided by time spent)

 

12,760,689 / 24014 = 531hours 38mins (xp needed divided by xp per hour)

 

531.38 / 4 Hours per day = 132.845 days (Total hours divided by hours spent smithing per day*)

 

132.845 / 30 = 4.4 (number of days divided by average days in a month)

 

 

 

 

 

So going by only a 2 hour test and my terrible maths, to get from 60 smithing (blast furnace requirement) to 99 smithing you would need:

 

 

 

32.6 Million gp

 

4 Months 4 Days (spending 4 hours a day smithing)

 

 

 

 

 

I have too much time on my hands and my head hurts :wall:

 

 

 

*Edit* I think its worth adding that within these 2 hours i had 5 random events.

 

1 Maze

 

1 Sergant Damien

 

1 Evil Twin Sister

 

2 Prison Pete's

[chickenkore]

so how much exactly do gold bowl high alch for?

[0burntrice0]

420gp each

[TheMinerGuy]

A nice method but comparing to mith plates at blast furnace...

 

 

 

1)Mith plates would have a higher exp/hr at 80 smithing exp per ore with the fact that gold bowls are smithed from 2 bars compared to 5 bars from a plate.

 

 

 

2)You are also making a profit of around 40gp(or less) per bowl only if you rced your own nats. For the same results, using rced nats gives 400-600 per plate alched. When buy nats, this method will cost you but with only reduced profits doing mith plates.

 

 

 

3)You are very dependant on the stock from ordan. Having your own noted gold ores would only cost more if bought or takes pretty long if you mine them. For mith ores, mith ores are almost never depleted in stock, you can get coal from mtk as well.

 

 

 

Conclusion: Mith ores still wins gold ores in comparison :|

 

 

 

hey d00d, outkast r0se here fellow 99 miner

 

 

 

just wondering, when you say 'reduced profits' from buying your own nature runes do you mean you still make a slight profit per plate when buying mith ore/ coal from black furnace and nats from players?

 

 

 

thanks

[Bakerkills93]

just wanted to let you know that this guide is awesome and I'm doing this right now. awesome exp 8-)

[NukeMarine]

Let's think of this mathematically:

 

 

 

Gold ore can sell for 500 each. So 10k gold ore can be either 5 million gp or 710k smithing xp. Using 5k natures (300 each) nets you 120 gp profit so a net loss of 380 gp for some 71 smith and 70 something mage xp. Granted, with 12 smithing clicks and 12 high alcs, it will be a bit time consuming but not much.

 

 

 

Now, 5 million gp can purchase 5550 mith ore (500 each) and 11100 coal (200 each). Unnoting mith and coal at the furnace (fastest smithing method) cost a bit but I don't know the number off hand. It will net you 80 xp per bar after you smelt then smith (44.4k xp) and less return on bars.

 

 

 

Obviously here, the gold wins out assuming the unnoting is not too costly (world hopping for the gold wastes too much time).

 

 

 

So, should you mine the gold? Here, I'd if you're gonna mine, mine either coal or iron. 5 iron will get you 1 gold. You'll get 500 iron much faster than you'll ever get 100 gold. In addition, you get more xp. Many teleports put you by the best iron mine in the game. For coal, use the lyre or house teleport to goto the 7 coal in Fremminick.

 

 

 

Anyway, great post. Using the blast furnace world with your own stock of gold and unnoting on site could make for fast smithing xp. The cost won't be that high either.

[the_god_of_soup]

Great guide! But how does it work with infinite stock?

[Harrington]

Hmm, interesting... might give this a go in a few days :)

[Bo4345]

Intresting technique :wink:

[fireguy123]

Already in another guide, and by my memory, the bowls can't be noted, therefore alching them is an inconvenience.

#-o I was ready to head over and try this :XD: Ty though for saying that :-#

[NukeMarine]

You're alcing the bowls on site I pressume so it's not necessary to note them even if you could.

[0burntrice0]

Great guide! But how does it work with infinite stock?

 

 

 

Its a shame but there's no infinite stock down there.

 

 

 

And ty nuke. You buy the ore, make the bars, make the bowls, alch the bowls and repeat... No need to note anything!