qeltar Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 The new dueling tournament system is a gigantic MESS. Oh, the tournaments can be fun, but there are SO many problems with the way they are implemented that after now having been in several dozen of them, I am leaving and not coming back until they revamp the system. It would appear that the elimination of 1v1 staking, arguably the worst feature removal in the history of the game, has been paired with what is easily the worst implemented and least thoroughly tested update in the history of the game. If any of you have only done one or two duels you won't really understand exactly how frustrating this new feature is to those who have done it for a while. Just a small list of the ridiculous problems with this system: 1. It's almost impossible to find a world where registrar 3 is open, reg 4 is even worse. At BEST there is one tourny going on ANYWHERE in the game. Go to any world but 54 and there are people standing around irritated that they can't even get a game going. 2. Okay, you get lucky and find a tourney on a world. You sign up and spend 8 minutes getting your equip ready, taking out money, planning your inventory -- and then the tournament is cancelled. WHY? 3. Ditto #2 except being kidnapped by a random 5 seconds before the tournament starts. 4. Since there are so few games, all of the top players are in one place on world 54 so second-tier players have ZERO chance to win. 5. You spend almost all of your time standing around, standing around, standing around. Oh, you just logged in to the only server with a tourny going, the current wait time is 9 minutes for a set of rules containing food and potions, you don't feel like blowing 100k on supplies only to lose, and the next game is mage-only and you're on lunars? Gee sorry, you'll be waiting HALF AN HOUR until your next duel. And if you're thinking of world hopping, see #1 and #2. 6. Whoever thought up "max current health" as a tiebreaker obviously put NO thought into that decision whatsoever. I can do 500 points of damage to my opponent's 50, but if at the end he quaffs a bunch of brews and throws a d bow spec at me, I lose. This was tested? 7. So you spend 60k on potions and food and valiantly fought to the final, where you got some guy who is 5 levels higher than you down to 2 hp before losing... here's your reward: NADA. 8. "Jackpots up to 64 million!" Bzzt. 90% of the time even the tier 4 duels are 20k or less per entrant. 9. Low-level players have absolutely no prayer in this system. None. And jagex's "it will all sort itself out in a few days" is baloney. Is that all? Nope, just what I could think of quickly. I'm hoping Jagex changes a few things tomorrow. If not, I'll write up in more detail just how awful a job they did on this half-baked feature, which is such a shame because of the great potential it has. Jagex has no beta testing program -- and it shows. This update is an embarassment. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernosage4 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I agree with you 100 percent. I can never find a good tournament to enter and when I do I have to fight two level 126's in a row. I'm level 98. Think I stood a chance? I got lucky on the first one because my Hitpoints were higher. Even though I beat him, I still think that's a [developmentally delayed]ed system. 269 QP | All Stats 60+ (except Summoning) | Barrows Drops: 8 | Dragon Drops: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 Thanks. Unfortunately this got moved so few people will see it. I guess someone decided my tone was too harsh -- I'm rather frustrated from spending the last hour or so alternating between world hopping, standing around and getting slaughtered by level 126s -- and turfed it here. I'll write things up more calmly tomorrow. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiophobus Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I would very much agree with your rant, especially the part about the tiebreaker. I had done at least 300 damage to my opponent, I didn't eat once, and he was constantly eating. When the end of the round came, he was at most 3 hp above me, yet he went on, and I lost. I also waited for 10 minutes, then was not allowed entry because I was wearing a ring of dueling. Instead of simply removing it, my inventory had plenty of space, it decided to kick me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I wonder if Summoning will be this half-baked. :shame: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cha0sx Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 This was all things i learned within the first day, and very quickly. Thanks for pointing it out to people in an organized list....yeah jagex is acting pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 They changed the message that they say when it is closed now. It tells you to try world 54, 83, 114 or 129. I am on world 54 and both registrars 3 and 4 are closed and it is telling me to try world 54. Does anyone at QA actually do anything? :lol: Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill1193 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Why don't they make it so that similar levels are grouped together? There should be a 40-45 group, 46-50, and so on. This would make it much more fair and fun for everyone. [bleep] you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenjkered Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Ye I agree, with your points, but they are fun. Just one thing though, I played my second tournament today and came up against a lvl 120 on the first round (I'm 101). Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't jagex state that it's supposed to match you to someone close to your combat lvl? Fair enough in the later rounds, but on the first round with 60 people? Give me a break... Edit: 3rd Tournament: lvl 116 with 94 mage.... do I need to say more? Edit 2: Just saw a lvl 58 vs a 117 in the second round.... Whips: 3 Dragon Boots: 15 My 99's: Attack & Cooking Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Goldenjkered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotdown12 Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 This was all things i learned within the first day, and very quickly. Thanks for pointing it out to people in an organized list....yeah jagex is acting pathetic. Jagex, whats next? :ohnoes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 yes, the way you win is just easily coast along until the last 30 seconds, then eat and sarabrew like mad, doing damage between bites. last time i checked, that wasn't how you fight someone else, and i'm no fighter I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locutus_Of_Borg Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Just take off the stake cap and all will be good, with the exception of a lot of little tweaks to the tourney which sucks at the moment. All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu...This is the truth!This is my belief!...at least for now. "The Mystery of Life"Vol. 841, Ch. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locutus_Of_Borg Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Also another thing to add to your list. You get paired with people with a rank close to you. One flaw: People can lose constantly to get a low rank, then beat a tourney filled with low levels. Everytime I've joined a tourney, I'm getting paired with level 110+ for the first round. Why? Because they spent 15k to lose several rounds to lower their rank just so they can join a low level tourney, get paired with low ranks and win 120k. All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu...This is the truth!This is my belief!...at least for now. "The Mystery of Life"Vol. 841, Ch. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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