Berserker necklace and obby weapons

[Lets_3ekout]

Searched H&A multiple times couldn't find a single thing about this :?

 

 

 

I've had loads of cash to throw away lately, so much so that I've been a bit clueless about something decent to buy (I don't like spending ~7m on ranger sets that don't really provide a defence bonus and only just more range bonus then a cheap 50k archer helm :P ).

 

 

 

I ended up buying a berserker necklace but don't know what's better for str training. From the tip it calc I can see I'll be hitting natural 27's with an obby sword (comapred to a whip's 28) and 29's on slayer assignments. But with the obby maul I would be pulling of natural 34's and on slayer assignments 38's :shock:

 

However I can't quite recall how slow the maul is. I'm leaning towards to the sword, but does anyone know which method is faster str training? (note that I NEVER pk or duel, making the "KO" aspect of a maul pointless).

 

 

 

Thanks.

[Yohbilleh]

I would go for maul, you could train at Ape atoll :D

[Chaos_Reborn]

According to a few sources, the Obsidian Sword hits with the same speed as Scimitars, while the Maul hits as slow as normal 2-H swords.

 

 

 

You've done the damage calculations, so what's left is the accuracy. The Maul has +80 crush and the Sword has +47 stab and +38 slash, so that's a big difference.

 

 

 

So I cannot answer this question, but I've given you some facts that you could consider. This probably depends on your attack level, with a lower one the Maul might help a bit more.

 

 

 

Is there any reason you're using Obsidian stuff?

[Lets_3ekout]

So I cannot answer this question, but I've given you some facts that you could consider. This probably depends on your attack level, with a lower one the Maul might help a bit more.

 

I don't really think my attack level requires any help, I also train with sup atts seeing as I have hundreds of them from when I powered herblore up to finish a quest. So I guess I'm still leaning towards a sword.

 

 

 

Is there any reason you're using Obsidian stuff?

 

Strength training :P Berserker necklace increases damage from obby weapons by 20%, making them the best strength training in game, exception may go to Dharoks training when using prayer.

 

 

 

Edit: Bought myself a obby sword and it seems great :P First gargoyal I attack with it and I hit a nice 33-21-16 : (With D B axe spec)

[Matok]

nice idea,completly forgot about it

 

i also need some str training but i have no patience for D scimmy

 

might try it also.

 

How much are those bracelets these days?

[Lets_3ekout]

nice idea,completly forgot about it

 

i also need some str training but i have no patience for D scimmy

 

might try it also.

 

How much are those bracelets these days?

 

Unfortunatly they're not so cheap because they're made of onyx :P

 

I believe beserker ammys are 3.3-3.6M last I checked, plus the cost of the obby weapon (though they aren't very costly at all when compared to a berserker necklace)

[Matok]

ok thx,ye i assumed that's gonna be the price +-

 

but i think i am gonna go for it.

 

Did you try it with black mask? the 2 together should have awesome effect :D

 

 

 

[EDIT] - ok,i saw u did..

[Chaos_Reborn]

Berserker necklace increases damage from obby weapons by 20%

 

 

 

OH! Now that's something new to me. I gotta consider this an option too. Have you considered using salve amulet (e) for strength training as well?

[Jordanweb]

Salve amulet (e) + d scimitar + ankou > Any obsidian weapon + berserker necklace + any npc.

 

 

 

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Btw, salve ammy e doesn't stack with black mask so i don't think berserker necklace would either... :-k

[VjuliusT]

Salve amulet (e) + d scimitar + ankou > Any obsidian weapon + berserker necklace + any npc.

 

 

 

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Btw, salve ammy e doesn't stack with black mask so i don't think berserker necklace would either... :-k

 

 

 

I do believe they stack (berserker necklace + black mask) compared to salve/black mask who does not stack.

[Lets_3ekout]

Salve amulet (e) + d scimitar + ankou > Any obsidian weapon + berserker necklace + any npc.

 

 

 

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Btw, salve ammy e doesn't stack with black mask so i don't think berserker necklace would either... :-k

 

 

 

I don't like ankou, I have no idea why but I just don't enjoy killing them and I burn out withing 10mins of killing them :P

 

 

 

I'm relatively sure beserker stacks with black mask, don't think I would have pulled of a 33 with only one of those straight of :-k

 

Edit: Just pulled of a unpotted 26 with a black mask and a 35 potted so they do stack.

 

 

 

Have you considered using salve amulet (e) for strength training as well?

 

I used to afk Damis's lair as 90% of my proper training for a couple of weeks-months. But salve has limited options and I like variety in what I kill :P Which is most likely why I'm enjoying slayer as of late.

 

 

 

Even though the sword is probably faster I'm probably going to grab myself a maul anyway because from what I can see I can max out 54's :XD: More of a stuffing around weapon though, like anchors.

 

 

 

NOTE to anyone considering this method: After checking this weapon out I have 49 stab attack and 40 slash when using my best equipment at this time. Without barrow gloves or a rune defender I have 37 stab and 28 slash. So I'd recommend 80-90+ attack level and a rune defender with barrow gloves to maximize you're attack.

 

 

 

If you achieve a good attack overall these are GREAT strength training weapons. Sadly they make obby shields even more obsolete instead of their goal which was to make obby equip more popular. Reason being is you need the attack bonuses on it.

 

Warrior rings help little because they merely equal the accuracy of stabbing and slashing while not really improving it's potential.

 

 

 

Last edit: I've swapped my obby shield with a rune defender because it's become plain to me that the "gross" (When you have so much attack bonus that adding more makes no difference) attack bonus clearly has no effect here when you're dealing with these attack bonuses. So I've found that using a rune defender with barrow gloves, no warrior ring/helm, you can achieve a 69 stab bonus with 59 slash.

[brunokiller]

I have an obby maul+obby maul myself.

 

 

 

With 91 strenght you hit the following:

 

 

 

Obby maul+necklace+black mask=34

 

Obby maul+necklace+black mask+super str=44

 

Obby maul+necklace+black mask+super str+piety=55(only once hit that, so might be higher)

 

Obby maul+necklace+super str+piety=49(on players)

 

 

 

And if you were wondering, black mask and necklace do stack