Lets_3ekout

I think adding coin piles to be 64 bit would cause a large increase on the load of servers. All 64 bits are proccessed EVERY time the server does anything with coins (even if it's just 1 coin dropping from a goblin). Then there would be decision of whether or not to give this increased limit to items aswell. Aside from that, I don't really even see the problem. As you've pointed out, there are ways around the money cap (just got this as a random though, but perhaps shard packs could be used?) and the audience for this update is almost nothing. The game wasn't intended for cash hording, if that's what people enjoy then so be it, but that doesn't mean it should be updated at the expensive of other players.

[spoiler=Reward info (explained)]Very usefull - it's a watering can which never runs out. Should save alot of hastle. Along with no more raking weeds, farming got alot less frustrating (in my opinion) Asside from that, great quest, although somewhat short. Final fight was pretty fun, but everything seemed so weak, I was hit for a total of like 250LP during that fight (which went for like... 15mins, since I'm not good at healing lol). Mage prayer was definetly the way to go though, for anyone whos in trouble. (I won't say anymore (;)

Would you rather be able to color some relevant but useless item, like say, most of the penance armor you get there? Be happy Jagex are (sometimes) able to make a distinction of Gameplay > What-makes-sense.

Nothing can ever be as bad as evony. The only reason evony even exists is because they hired a half-naked model for an ad-campaign (note: there are no women npcs or queens in the actual game).

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. :thumbup: ... Until you realise everything you missed out on. It's OK to set apart a significant amount of time to enjoy yourself, but any reasonable person will know there must be limits. I'm not going to go on about how people have wasted their lives, have no lives etc. etc., but if anyone is proud of these sorts of "feats" they need to grow up and do some self-reflection. Myself, I have 170 days which is pretty darn insignificant compared to others but I'm still somewhat ashamed of it. I wouldn't take doing it back, but I certainly would change how I spread that time out, if I could.

Both are pretty horrible/outdated spots (they used to be great spots years ago, just not so much anymore). You really should look into armoured zombies or zombie monkies. If you're going for a 99, it really is worth getting the requirements for zombies, or at least training at monkies. If you still want to train in one of your two spots, just go with bandits so you don't have to bother with getting monsters aggressive.

There was never a dilema to begin with, fremmy rings have always been the way to go for slayer. Now fericious rings are even better. Rings of wealth work, but they're junk - Exp > Cash. The point of saying that is...? Anyway, i'd stick with the Ferocious Ring myself. I never saw any increase in goodies while wearing a RoW. The point? The point is we know extremely little about the Ring of Wealth, and yet everyone is slinging about ideas as if they're fact. I could easily say that the Ring of Wealth is far better then the Ferocious Ring. It has a 30% chance increase for all rare drops! All we know as of now, is that the RoW increases your chances for a rare drop, small drops are not effected, and clues are set apart from both normal and rare drops into their own category. Anything else said about the RoW is complete and utter Jarate. The reason we know so little about it is because of how useless it is. If it was useful it would need to have a NOTICEABLE effect. Some people claim it works because "omg i got 2 rune scimmys on my first fire giant task without ROW and 3 on my next task with a ROW!!! IT WORKS!!" - obviously that's absoloutely meaningless because of the way probability works. Row has never been worth taking anywhere except perhaps to a boss fight, if even that. It's unfortunate it's like this but exp is what gets you along in RS not cash. Even so, offensive rings increase kill speed, increasing drops. Effectively, you have yourself a two in one ring when you bring a fremmy/ferocious ring.

That picture really reminds me of guild wars: Factions :mellow: I wouldn't analyze it too much though, it could just be a cool picture they made to attract new players.

If you can use a combat familiar and finish a task in one trip, always do so. If you would need to make a bank trip without the extra healing from a healing familiar, then don't bother with the combat familiar. Also, don't rush to 95-99 if it means selling your bank out. Looking at iron titan and above I can see they have a noticable increase in power, but they aren't ALOT stronger than a geyser (geyser has ranged attacks too :P) There's problem an exception or two to this rule, like killing waterfiends in the chaos tunnels, but it's a good rule to go by.

How could anyone choose? I've heard a lot of whining recently about Jagex, but when you look back at the updates this year there have been some truly awesome things released into the game. I'd never make my mind up on which specific update, but I think the best updates were all the high level content which gives everyone something to shoot for. I'm talking about things like the herblore update, curses (prayer), living rocks (mining/fishing. To a lesser extent, cooking), agility and the Ardy elite diary. Although RS-HD and summoning will always give the other years a run for it's money as the best RS year in upgrades, this year is definetly right up there.

Your title is pretty misleading... Weak =/= week. I can't tell which one you meant :-| No matter... I had a friend who camped aviansies on a berserker pure. I came down to kill with him and he really didn't get hit all that hard, was pretty surprising. However I do not think you could do a week worth of camping in one go. B2P, EE (can pures get these? If so, bring it) and a healing familiar can keep you up and going for a long time (By the way, my friend didn't even have the EE or summoning and he did fine for a few hours there). However because you have 45 defence you have to focus on defence bonus rather than attack bonus which slows down exp and cash somewhat, and makes you easy prey for kill stealers.

A BoB works for pretty long, although a unicorn lets you camp. Once you feel that you can handle the micro-management of all of it remember to bring an elemental titan pouch + scrolls in your BoB, it'll extend your trips by a long time if you can prayer switch fast (EE is invalueable aswell. Not really worth bringing a damaging special attack. SGS isn't all too great here). Good luck on the drops, forgetting about them is the best thing you can do. Less disapointment on dry runs and even more exciting when you do get them :mrgreen:

I've always considered a duo or trio better in every way than solo, if you can find reliable people (Do it with friends rather than random RSOF people). A duo more than doubles the time you spend there which is really useful for gp/hr since it takes a while to withdraw consumables/run to gw/get kill count. Neither would I recommend doing this solo with a connection and computer that are almost 100% reliable, it's pretty much impossible to get back in time without a blessed grave. When TD's came out I decided to solo them, despite having a bad connection at the time. I lost 3 karil tops and heaps of other valuable stuff by the end of the month because I kept on going back hoping for a drop that would pay for it all :-|

The plane is nice once you find a certain few spots in it. I'm not going to reveal them (wouldn't even know how to describe them) but do some exploring and you'll find them. Careful not to pick a spot with the aggresive abyssal monsters, the two lower leveled types won't attack you unless you have a very low combat for a lvl 85 slayer. If you want to go to the tower, there's one very important thing to remember which everyone else never does (why? I don't know... Perhaps they're a lil' stupid after watching me KS them a hundred times). Bring AIR STRIKES. the auto cast update made it a little less convinient but it's still worth it. When you're waiting for spawns, have air strike at the ready. Almost everyone there uses melee so you should be able to get pretty much every single abby demon spawn. Crowding issue = Solved.

Good memories? I still have nightmares about having to stand in w2 fally typing my way to carpal tunnel. There are some great things to reminisce about in RuneScape - this ain't one of 'em. As for the prices, I'm surprised to see so many items that actually are similar to what we have today - it's not like the economy back then is totally unrecognisable compared to today, which is the way some people make it seem.

The way I've seen it, monsters have stats like us and invisible equipment which provides bonuses (aparantly corp doesn't have 92+ str/att from an above post. So this thoery would explain his massive hits). This would leave us with only half the info which is kinda useless since equipment can be almost as beneficial as stats (maxed chars without equipment can be killed by like lvl 60's).

I'm pretty sure uncut onyx has always been a tzhaar drop, but with extremely small drop rate (maybe same as a d chain from a dust devil? who knows).

Rares are expensive because they are rares, not because they look good, cause IMO they don't look good. They DO look good BECAUSE they are rare, but trust me, if they were 1 gp you wouldn't see a lot of people running around in halloween masks or partyhats. Yes and no. Obviously it's a contributing factor that they're rare but ultimately people do buy them to wear them, or merchant them which is another story. (and just FYI, many people do think they look good in their skiller clothing). If you look at all the edible rares and Disk of returning you'll see they're alot behind wearable rares (besides their sudden enormous price spike which is probably the work of a merch clan). As for if they were 1gp each, no one can really make a call on that but personally I'd say people would still use them in skilling setups since some rares can look good in those "costumes" (can't remember what people call them).

Two points you should consider: 1) There's a lack of items in Runescape that are of high cost and high usefullness. Currently, the priciest thing worth getting for efficiency is AGS (for PvP'ers) or SGS (for PvE'ers). Not only is there an enormous gap in price for the next set of useful items, but these two items, and almost all items that cost 10m+ are far from required for anything. They're just small boosts in efficiency and convenience. What I'm getting at is, people have mountains of money left over for buying what looks good (want proof? Rares. Statless TT items.). 2) For your example of d skirt and legs, consider this scenario in real life. You see some pants and a skirt in a shop with the exact same pattern - both look equally stylish. The skirt costs half the pants. If you're a hetero guy, which do you buy? I don't know where you come from but where I live the choice is pretty damn obvious. Yes I am insisting that majority of RS'ers are straight guys. That or they're kids who have yet to find out what they are and as such they would typically stick with the normal and go with legs.

I can guarantee you can't use it on summoning (careful when selecting your choice as fast clickers who are eager to skip conversations with NPC's can very easily waste their exp reward on melee combat skills or something else you don't want). I wouldn't hope for a change since alot of people would be pretty pissed about it unless they got the option to reselect (not many times in RS do they even consider letting players lose exp for things like this... Or from anything).

I was kinda disapointed with the heaven (or w/e they're calling it) part of the quest, they should have put all the dead masters from WGS in there and give you the ability to chat with them. A good chance to give us some future hints ;-) Really enjoyed the dag mother fight, even though they have sorta over used her as a quest boss (this makes the 3rd time you kill her or something *extremely* similar to her visually and combat wise) I don't really care about no summoning option - prayer is always better used for these things (especially now with curses/crazy bone prices).

^What he said. You shouldn't defensive cast unless you're a mage pure though since defensive casting reduces your magic exp which is both slower to get and more expensive to get. I'd recommend getting the defence levels with melee for maximum speed and minimum cost.

looking at the steep up and down slope of these, it looks like a merch clan was involved. If that's the case, maybe just wait until they finish dumping them? I can't see them dropping any lower than 25, but you never know. Edit: Ignore post, I had no idea about updates mentioned below :|

Slayer helm + Fury is actually better offence wise (defence aswell I think...) . Salve + Neitz is a pretty poor combo since you're taking away all the bonuses of a fury for +3 strength and 5% attack/strength. 5% is pretty darn small - and if you count up percentage bonuses of the salve and slayer helm you'll see that the 15% boost with fury adds up to more than the 20% with salve. I'd bet that even with a glory the slayer helm would come out on top - but I haven't counted nor tested that. Most of the time you can't even use a neitz with the salve since you're forced to use the facemask or earmuffs (or both). I always thought salve was better until I counted it and tested it so I'm sure there are plenty of people who might benefit from reading this :thumbup:

Why DFS when you already have more than enough defence from piety? :blink: If this is the case, why didn't people train here before? Keep in mind all these figures in this thread are using a slayer mask with it's attack/strength boosts. Before the recent update, there were no living rock tasks. Also, the exp/hour isn't so amazing compared to other monster when you're off-task. I'm sorta surprised at the exp these things are giving, when I first saw the task in the RS KB I was thinking that it'd be just another task to skip/block - I suppose not. On topic, standard melee slayer gear works. Whip, Rune defender, slayer/black mask, barrows/bandos gear (prossy if using piety). Bring a bunyip/unicorn (I *think* it's single combat since I remember killing them for a few hours when the dungeon first came out) and a damage dealing spec weapon (excalibur not needed). Just be ready for any living rock patriarch spawns, you wouldn't want to miss out on killing one of those :-P