We want wild back

[RichieMcD]

 

 

 

what is fun in rs?

 

1. pking

 

2. Merchanting and making money

 

3. All day long leveling your character ??

 

-Well if there is a goal like becomming a mighty player killer? YES!

 

-If it just contains wasting your time by clicking all day long on a rock or a tree? HELL NO!

 

After that you are able to sell it for a price chosen by jagex who now controls ecocomy.

 

 

 

Worst updates ever:

 

1st place: WILD REMOVAL

 

2nd place: DUEL ARENA STAKE LIMIT AT 3K (3K is something you can find on the floor !)

 

3th place: ECONOMY CONTROL BY JAGEX

 

 

 

 

What i have put in bold is called a opinion, these differentiate between people, yours is that pking is fun and skilling is a waste of time.

 

 

 

Well my opinion is pking sucks, monster hunting and skilling is whats fun. Taking on a level 580 flying beast is much harder than hitting the spec button and clicking on a player.

 

 

 

The wild was not removed, see that big black are above varrock and edgeville..... well its callled the wilderness, you can go in there any time and day.

 

 

 

Why not just do the tournaments at duel arena, it requires much more skill than old staking did, same with bounty hunter nowadays, requires much more skill than old pking...... so what i can see is that you are a lazy player complaining at the fact that you can no longer make easy money.

 

 

 

Getting rid of RWTers was a much better idea than having 12 year olds running around shouting "j00 1s 0wn3zzzz i 0m l33t pkerzzzzz"

 

 

 

Sp either adapt or shut-up and stop playing the game, if they killed off what i enjoyed i would either adapt or quit, not moan like a spoiled child.

[123Yourgone]

Heres a suggestion for jagex, allow pking again, and leave graves as there are, rwt is still impossible and i can pk people in my training spot/ fight other people.

 

 

 

And what of those who PKed for loot and not for sport?

Make friends and go to bh, jagex isnt going to change the wild back into a loot system.

[user1991]

3th place: ECONOMY CONTROL BY JAGEX

 

 

 

Prices ARE NOT fixed! Look GE, they change and WE do it, not Jagex! Ppls just can't go to the forum anymore and sell some item 100% higher price than they bought it...

 

 

 

And someones who says, that this is like Big Brother and IRL theres no fixed prices...Look, IRL business there is many regulations, so you cannot just go and sell some item 100% higher than its price.really is..don't even dream! Runescape WAS economical Anarchy you don't find in real life!

 

 

 

And by God, what If I don't care about money that much and I just want to get rid of my junk for maybe half price? That way I can sell it quickly! But no, noone does that of course, do they? I've had items on the GE at lowest price that didnt sell in 3 days. I went on the forums, said I was selling it ridiculously cheap, and wham, in an hour or so I had sold it.

 

 

 

This is something we can't do. Jagex seems to think that 3k is a lot of money. They're out of touch with their own game. With the introduction of the GE, they put yew longs at their alch price. How can they not realise that yew longs, were probably one of the most important items in Runescape. Do they not realise that the whole alching culture came about from the quick fletching method of yew longs? Even random level 50s know that, but Jagex, the creators of the game do not.

 

 

 

They also seem to think that now, raising the limit to 30k max is a good thing. It isn't. Maybe to some people, 30k is a lot of money, but give those people time, and as soon as they get a relatively high stat, they'll realise how little 30k is.

[LiChef]

Tell me people! Which of these is better...

 

 

 

Killing i dunno... Mith Dragons, may drop Dragon Full Helm, more exp than ANY other player

 

OR

 

Killing players who will probably never bring Dragon Full Helm to the wildi or anything half decent. Even if they do they probably wont drop it due to gravestones and the "keep top three" system.

 

 

 

Hmmmm.... :wall:

 

Li Chef

[NoMoreDead]

Tell me people! Which of these is better...

 

 

 

Killing i dunno... Mith Dragons, may drop Dragon Full Helm, more exp than ANY other player

 

OR

 

Killing players who will probably never bring Dragon Full Helm to the wildi or anything half decent. Even if they do they probably wont drop it due to gravestones and the "keep top three" system.

 

 

 

Hmmmm.... :wall:

 

Li Chef

 

 

 

Odds of whip pk > Odds of dragon drops.

 

 

 

By a LONG SHOT.

 

 

 

Also, had to point this out:

 

 

 

 

My membership was payed for 3 months, when it runs out i will not renew it, i log in and talk to my friends untill then, Since your illiterate i wont even ask how you got from that statement that i had a problem with people who still played, i stated reasons why they would do so, they happen to be the reasons i still do so aside from the garbage computer part.

 

 

 

 

6 I's not capitalized

 

+

 

1 Incorrect capitalization

 

+

 

1 Incorrect use of "Your"

 

+

 

Numerous incorrect uses of commas, capitalizations, and lack of apostrophes

 

=

 

1 Giant run-on sentence.

 

 

 

Don't call people illiterate when you have issues of your own.

 

 

 

PS: You're not getting the Wildy back, so either learn to adapt, or quit.

[Roberthree]

No RWT's > Wildy

 

 

 

+99999

 

 

 

Why is it that PKers only think they matter? This update affected everyone in a good way except Pkers. What is good for the many, is good for the few.

 

 

 

RS is not just about Pking.

[user1991]

No RWT's > Wildy

 

 

 

+99999

 

 

 

Why is it that PKers only think they matter? This update affected everyone in a good way except Pkers. What is good for the many, is good for the few.

 

 

 

RS is not just about Pking.

 

 

 

You're extremely narrow minded. You really really are. While I'll admit that most of the protests/rants/riots were extremely childish, the general message is correct.

 

 

 

Imagine if you weren't an all rounder or a skiller, and you were a pker. I don't know why, but there's this position taken by many on fan forums that pking is "wrong" or "cowardly". Those who say that, are in WAY too deep. One of the arguments people like you use to discredit people who protest is that "it is just a game." Yep, you're right, its a game. But that doesn't mean, not even for a second that any work/commitment you've inputted into said game can or should be made to be completely worthless. Did you EVER Edge pk? How can you seriously consider Bounty Hunter (multiplayer) to be any sort of acceptable replacement for the wilderness. Sure, Jagex have said they're introducing solo. How do you suppose they do that, without contradicting the very reason BH was introduced; it's multi. Solo bounty hunter would be just like the wild. They've also said MANY times before that they would NEVER delete trading (they haven't really deleted it, but the general premise is gone) or the wilderness.

 

 

 

Jagex are doing the right thing, but in the WORST WAY POSSIBLE. Their introduction of trade limits based on ludicrously low amounts of GP (3-30k) proves to me that they are completely out of touch with their own game. The price of yew longs remains 20% higher than it actually is. This is possibly the worst mistake of them all. They run the game, yet they fail to realise that yew longs were/are the single most important item in the game in terms of economic stability. The prices to train woodcutting/magic/firemaking/fletching all depended upon yew longs. If you were to fletch, you would cut yew longs. And if you were to alch, you would alch yew longs. This single mistake alone, is unforgivable. Honestly, even if they had 15k+ items to price, they should never have messed up the yew long price. That is, if they actually messed it up, and didn't do it deliberately to calm the influx of combatters.

 

 

 

Anyone in favour of these updates (not the premise, the updates themselves) please answer me this:

 

 

 

If Jagex don't have a hidden agenda, why could they not:

 

 

 

1) Instead of placing a limit on stakes, why not just make it that stakes have to be equal? Not ideal, but better than what we have now.

 

 

 

2) Keep the wilderness, but make it so no non combat items (this also includes noted items) can be taken into the wilderness. I see no difference between this and the supposed solo-bounty hunter they're promising to introduce. Also, with the wilderness being much smaller, it would be much easier for players to kill/detect RWTers.

 

 

 

3) Make realistic trade limits. 3k is nothing. Same goes for 30k. RWTers weren't buying less than a mil, that's for sure. So make it maybe 200k per hour. That way, it takes 5 hours to trade a mil. Who in their right mind would do that? RWTers would just move onto another game, that's right Jagex, RuneScape isn't the only game in the universe.

 

 

 

4) Allow a system for private drop parties, or maybe, you have to select 20+ members from your list, you put the items into a chest, and it gives them out to the selected people. Again, not ideal, but its better than the party room where any randomer can get your items. Maybe make it so that all 20 people have to have been on your list for 6 months? And make the maximum 5m to each person?

 

 

 

Most people fail to realise that a COMPLETE demolition of RWT isn't necessary. You just have to take out the essential conditions that they need, and they WILL move on. Noone, and I mean noone would wait 5 hours to trade a mil. And noone would wait 6 months to receive 5m. It just wouldn't happen. There are way too many people on these forums, (lordkrohn for example) who seem to have this haughty, self righteous view that anyone who pked was or is a "coward" I don't know why they think this, but It's probably due to ignorance/generalising. For example, if you're pked while RCing, that doesn't mean every Pker is a "coward". This type of attitude, from the self proclaimed "mature" members of this community is not only worrying but completely ridiculous. You seem to forget that RuneScape is a roleplaying game. Don't compare it to the real world. More importantly, how am I supposed to fulfill my chosen role of pking for a living when the conditions I am given (permanent multiplayer, anyone in the level bracket can attack me and so on) do not correlate originally with the choice I chose. BH isn't pking, it's more like the fight pits. But this time aroumd, you actually lose items.

[Unoalexi]

Although you're post was beautifully thought out, I've noticed some problems with your solutions.. Rest assured that I agree with you for the most part.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Jagex don't have a hidden agenda, why could they not:

 

 

 

1) Instead of placing a limit on stakes, why not just make it that stakes have to be equal? Not ideal, but better than what we have now.

 

This wouldn't work either, considering how RWT's operated in the past. To make their "duels" less suspicious, they would duel the customer and lose for "equal stakes".

 

 

 

For example. if the customer already had one mil(or items worth one mil) they would stake this against the seller's mil(that they paid for) and duel the RW trader to win this mil.

 

 

 

2) Keep the wilderness, but make it so no non combat items (this also includes noted items) can be taken into the wilderness. I see no difference between this and the supposed solo-bounty hunter they're promising to introduce. Also, with the wilderness being much smaller, it would be much easier for players to kill/detect RWTers.

 

This wouldn't work unless we still had the gravestones.. people would just buy Runescape items for cash instead of money..

 

 

 

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

2) Keep the wilderness, but make it so no non combat items (this also includes noted items) can be taken into the wilderness. I see no difference between this and the supposed solo-bounty hunter they're promising to introduce. Also, with the wilderness being much smaller, it would be much easier for players to kill/detect RWTers.

 

This wouldn't work unless we still had the gravestones.. people would just buy Runescape items for cash instead of money..

 

 

 

If a system was introduced that disallowed a player from continually bringing high-value items into the wilderness, this problem would be all but eliminated. I proposed something like this in addition to item restrictions on these forums and Zybez forums and got a little bit of good feedback, but outside of the few responses I did get it seems nobody's interested. I don't think there's any hope for the Wilderness.

[user1991]

Although you're post was beautifully thought out, I've noticed some problems with your solutions.. Rest assured that I agree with you for the most part.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Jagex don't have a hidden agenda, why could they not:

 

 

 

1) Instead of placing a limit on stakes, why not just make it that stakes have to be equal? Not ideal, but better than what we have now.

 

This wouldn't work either, considering how RWT's operated in the past. To make their "duels" less suspicious, they would duel the customer and lose for "equal stakes".

 

 

 

For example. if the customer already had one mil(or items worth one mil) they would stake this against the seller's mil(that they paid for) and duel the RW trader to win this mil.

 

 

 

2) Keep the wilderness, but make it so no non combat items (this also includes noted items) can be taken into the wilderness. I see no difference between this and the supposed solo-bounty hunter they're promising to introduce. Also, with the wilderness being much smaller, it would be much easier for players to kill/detect RWTers.

 

This wouldn't work unless we still had the gravestones.. people would just buy Runescape items for cash instead of money..

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Hmm, you make a good point, but how do we know the danger wouldn't cancel the reward out? If I was buying GP, how would I know if the seller wasn't just going to kick my wagon for my money? They could implement a system that only makes it possible for accounts level 70+ and within 5 levels of each other to stake. Even then, if people were buyin GP, as I said I think it would be too risky. Player A puts up 1m of his own money, what's to say Player B (the seller) wont whip out a dds and pwn him for the cash?

 

 

 

2) Exactly. And this is why this proposed solo Bounty Hunter is another empty promise from Jagex. It will have a preposterous by-law added to it, and so it should. If they have the balls to delete the wilderness, they wont buckle under the pressure and make bounty hunter solo anything like the previous system. For example, I think the solo system WILL be solo, but the names will be drawn out at random. For example you enter your character into your level bracket, and then it spawns you next to an opponent in some other level type thing. Definitely not what any of us are hoping for.

 

 

 

 

 

I've actually stuck by Jagex in the past; they aren't stupid, they know what they're doing. But this time around, I'm actually really surprised how they took this action. Sure, as many of you say they may have been under pressure from governments/credit card companies to get it sorted, but the way they've done it is pretty amateur, especially considering they're the creators of the game. This is the way I would have expected a bunch of kids to do it. "Oh, we need to get rid of RWT? How about, instead of making an intellectual and educated decision regarding how we are going to go about implementing these schemes; ie keeping it as similar as possible for our loyal and paying members, we just delete every way anyone can do an unbalanced trade!"

 

 

 

Does it seem like the logic of a major, million dollar gaming company? You may say I expect too much - I don't. The wilderness WAS, there is no dispute, Jagex's unique selling point. For them to nerf it without so much as a thought (yeh, that's evident. If you wanna take me up on this, feel free) shows me that they really are out of touch with their game. They have so many employees, working in so many different apartments, they can't communicate with their members properly. Aside from those two posts on the site and a couple stickies on the RSOF, what are they doing? Where are the hordes of moderators in game telling, and asking people for any ideas. The battle against RWT is not one Jagex should fight alone.

 

 

 

I honestly can't understand how ANYONE can think that these updates were the best course of action. If Jagex had posted on these forums, or any fan site forums (except runehq :D :D :D ) they would have got thousands of replies, probably every day, detailing how the problems could be best addressed whilst still keeping the members and spirit of the game. But guess what? They have chosen to sneak these updates on us. Promising one thing but giving another at the same time. And they will face the consequences sure enough. They say they have listened to the players, but have they really? People asked for a lend system, but not the one they're talking about delivering. (They say that items borrowed/given will be returned on logout of either player.) This is obviously a stupid idea.

 

 

 

Jagex have chosen their course of action. I HAVE unsubscribed ALL my accounts. I don't even know why I was still playing anyway, after being banned on my main and all. Maybe it was that Runescape-allure people have come to known over the years. It's both the bane and the wonder of the game. When you don't want to play, you hate the feeling of being lured here to continue with your endeavours, but when you're in the mood, there's nothing like it. Runescape is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a complex game. But the player added complexities were what made it special. From December 2002 to 2007 I played this game, often to the early hours. I don't know why I did it. I was young, I was naive, what ever you want to call it. But one thing is for sure, I regret NONE of it. I loved my time on runescape. I got more than I could have ever wished for out of an online game, and for that Jagex, I truly thank you. But alas, everything has to come to an end, and I'm afraid my time on Runescape is finally up. Jagex, you've chosen, at the loss of the players, to fight this battle alone. We could have helped, and done so much, but your course of action has been stated and I guess we can't really do anything to change it. Thanks for the good times.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

Heres a suggestion for jagex, allow pking again, and leave graves as there are, rwt is still impossible and i can pk people in my training spot/ fight other people.

 

 

 

And what of those who PKed for loot and not for sport?

Make friends and go to bh, jagex isnt going to change the wild back into a loot system.

 

 

 

So, bring back the PKing in the normal wilderness and keep BH and CW? Works for me. Because the way you worded it, it sounded like you wanted to remove everything back to the way it was, but leave the stones so you can't get a drop.

[123Yourgone]

Heres a suggestion for jagex, allow pking again, and leave graves as there are, rwt is still impossible and i can pk people in my training spot/ fight other people.

 

 

 

And what of those who PKed for loot and not for sport?

Make friends and go to bh, jagex isnt going to change the wild back into a loot system.

 

 

 

So, bring back the PKing in the normal wilderness and keep BH and CW? Works for me. Because the way you worded it, it sounded like you wanted to remove everything back to the way it was, but leave the stones so you can't get a drop.

Yeah sorry about that, leave pking in normal wild, keep bh and cws, keep revs too.

 

Pking in multi would be awesome, clan war 30 people on each side and 10 rev knights and 20 orcs, now thats a fight :XD:

[Roberthree]

 

Imagine if you weren't an all rounder or a skiller, and you were a pker. I don't know why, but there's this position taken by many on fan forums that pking is "wrong" or "cowardly". Those who say that, are in WAY too deep. One of the arguments people like you use to discredit people who protest is that "it is just a game." Yep, you're right, its a game. But that doesn't mean, not even for a second that any work/commitment you've inputted into said game can or should be made to be completely worthless. Did you EVER Edge pk? How can you seriously consider Bounty Hunter (multiplayer) to be any sort of acceptable replacement for the wilderness. Sure, Jagex have said they're introducing solo. How do you suppose they do that, without contradicting the very reason BH was introduced; it's multi. Solo bounty hunter would be just like the wild. They've also said MANY times before that they would NEVER delete trading (they haven't really deleted it, but the general premise is gone) or the wilderness.

 

 

 

Most of that was a blind assumption about me and most of those assumptions where wrong. I see nothing wrong with pking, and I understand why Pure Accounts are upset. I also have spoken out AGAINST people who say "It's just a game". I know BH is crap. However, that does not change my view about "What's good for the many, is good for the few" nor does it change my annoyance at all this ranting and rioting.

[Sly_Wizard]

"What's good for the many, is good for the few"...

 

 

 

That's commonly known as the tyranny of the majority.

[123Yourgone]

"What's good for the many, is good for the few"...

 

 

 

That's commonly known as the tyranny of the majority.

Worked in stalinist russia and i didnt hear of any complaints :|

[user1991]

No RWT's > Wildy

 

 

 

+99999

 

 

 

Why is it that PKers only think they matter? This update affected everyone in a good way except Pkers. What is good for the many, is good for the few.

 

 

 

RS is not just about Pking.

 

 

 

Okay, so you accuse me of making assumptions, yet you make statements like "Why is it that PKers only think they matter... This update effected everyone in a good way except Pkers"

 

 

 

No it didn't. Most of the people it affected positively were high ranked skillers. Let's take a look at that shall we. I'll compose a list of everyone it has affected negatively, it DOESN'T mean I think its right, but ya know, just shows you that they're there:

 

 

 

1) Stakers - hours of work thrown away.

 

 

 

2) Pkers - Bounty Hunter is crappy, endof.

 

 

 

3) Low level pures - If youre level 50-80 don't expect to live for more than 20 seconds at BH, unless you're with a team.

 

 

 

4) People who trained to 85 magic to get teleblock. They paid for a spell, and they got a different one. Not fair, period. I alched to 87 magic on my pure - he was also 58 combat with 60 attack and 73 strength. I stood NO chance at bounty hunter. Now he's banned so I guess it doesnt matter :D

 

 

 

5) Alchers - Jagex failed to correct the price of yew longs for I don't know how long.

 

 

 

6) Fletchers - bots banned meant that yew logs are in very short supply (I'm not saying its bad, just saying..)

 

 

 

7) Fishers - price of lobs, I think is still too high

 

 

 

8) Cooks - prices of raw/cooked food aren't accurate (Again im not sure)

 

 

 

9) Anyone who gives presents, or gifts to friends.

 

 

 

10) People who hosted private drop parties.

 

 

 

11) People who like to sell their junk for really low prices (much lower then the GE, pfft 5%) so that they can get some quick cash.

 

 

 

12) Anyone who lends items to their family/friends.

 

 

 

 

 

Plus Rob, I don't get what your point is here. Do you agree with the concept of these updates (combatting RWT) only, or both that and the way Jagex have done it? Because I think we can ALL agree that this could have been done better.

[Roberthree]

 

5) Alchers - Jagex failed to correct the price of yew longs for I don't know how long.

 

 

 

Hey! Thats me! I also lost teleblock. It was a necessary sacrifice though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus Rob, I don't get what your point is here. Do you agree with the concept of these updates (combatting RWT) only, or both that and the way Jagex have done it? Because I think we can ALL agree that this could have been done better.

 

 

 

I think that combating RWT is worth pissing off this many people. It could have been done better, yes. I am very sure that these flaws will be fixed in time though.

 

 

 

 

That's commonly known as the tyranny of the majority.

 

 

 

Heh, I still like it. It makes sense to me. If the majority of people are affected in a good way, then the minority of people who got harmed shouldn't matter. If that makes me a communist, so be it.

 

 

 

Off Topic-

 

I alched to 87 magic on my pure - he was also 58 combat with 60 attack and 73 strength.

 

 

 

Wow. All that at 58 combat? Man, when I was 58 I was running around in full addy. I wouldn't have stood a chance against your almighty pureness. Congrats on abusing flaws in the system.

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

 

Off Topic-

 

I alched to 87 magic on my pure - he was also 58 combat with 60 attack and 73 strength.

 

 

 

Wow. All that at 58 combat? Man, when I was 58 I was running around in full addy. I wouldn't have stood a chance against your almighty pureness. Congrats on abusing flaws in the system.

 

 

 

OMG PEOPLE RAISE A CERTAIN WAY THAT HAPPENS TO BE BETTER THAN ANOTHER SO TEHY CHEETED LOL OMG

[RandomKnight]

 

Off Topic-

 

I alched to 87 magic on my pure - he was also 58 combat with 60 attack and 73 strength.

 

 

 

Wow. All that at 58 combat? Man, when I was 58 I was running around in full addy. I wouldn't have stood a chance against your almighty pureness. Congrats on abusing flaws in the system.

 

 

 

OMG PEOPLE RAISE A CERTAIN WAY THAT HAPPENS TO BE BETTER THAN ANOTHER SO TEHY CHEETED LOL OMG

 

 

 

Not necisaraly cheated but...no no, ive made enough enemys for a while, aru

 

The whole pure society on my back because of my views is all i need

[user1991]

 

Off Topic-

 

I alched to 87 magic on my pure - he was also 58 combat with 60 attack and 73 strength.

 

 

 

Wow. All that at 58 combat? Man, when I was 58 I was running around in full addy. I wouldn't have stood a chance against your almighty pureness. Congrats on abusing flaws in the system.

 

 

 

 

 

Wow. The way you quoted it makes it sound like I was bragging. I mentioned my combat level so you can see that I would have no chance in BH, being in the second bracket.

 

 

 

It's attitudes like yours that I dislike. I experiment with combat levels and purity because I strive to be the best. It's nothing to do with abusing a "flaw in the system." Blame your Holy Jagex for that flaw, mr high and mighty. I trained a main too, got multiple 99 stats, then it was banned. Then I chose to make a pure. So what? Just because I choose not to be another generic black cav wearer who hangs around at varrock castle overusing the phrase *hugs* whilst talking to the rest of their generic, boring friends, doesn't mean im abusing the system. Oh but wait, I forgot, anyone who likes to experiment on RS or try out different combinations of stats, is a "flaw abuser"

[Roberthree]

Erm, hitting 30 on a guy who's max is about 15 and is the same level as you is not fair at all in any way. Period. It is broken and anyone who cannot see that is blind.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh but wait, I forgot, anyone who likes to experiment on RS or try out different combinations of stats, is a "flaw abuser"

 

 

 

No, finding combos and experimenting is fine. Hitting double of a person equal leveled to you is not fine.

 

 

 

Two equal leveled players in pretty much every other game made have an equal chance of winning and the outcome depends more on skill. In RS the pure beats the normal player always.

[user1991]

Erm, hitting 30 on a guy who's max is about 15 and is the same level as you is not fair at all in any way. Period. It is broken and anyone who cannot see that is blind.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh but wait, I forgot, anyone who likes to experiment on RS or try out different combinations of stats, is a "flaw abuser"

 

 

 

No, finding combos and experimenting is fine. Hitting double of a person equal leveled to you is not fine.

 

 

 

Two equal leveled players in pretty much every other game made have an equal chance of winning and the outcome depends more on skill. In RS the pure beats the normal player always.

 

 

 

Sure, the system is flawed, I can see that perfectly. So what? Purity is there for the taking, and I choose to train that way. If it's unfair, that's Jagex fault. And I wouldn't consider it unfair anyway - is it unfair that you get logs faster with a d axe, afterall, not *all* players can afford one. Making better equipment rarer only does one thing - reward the rich. Runescape isn't fair, and neither is anything else. But that doesn't mean we should all be limited to training a certain style or certain stats.

[123Yourgone]

The pure also has to train 4 times as much xp as the impure, Some times up to 30x as much.

 

Its not a flaw in the system its reaping the benifits of hard work..

 

I have an impure character that has 99 magic 96 str 85 att and 70 def..

 

Most people my lvl are 80 att str and def, yes i beat them, but they trained 8 million combat xp..

 

I trained 25 million combat xp..

 

If you want everything to be fair go play neopets, in runescape hard work is rewarded.

 

How fun would this game be if every attack style but controlled was removed and every one the same combat lvl was identical?, couse thats what you seem to want.

[RandomKnight]

The pure also has to train 4 times as much xp as the impure, Some times up to 30x as much.

 

 

 

Im not saying i disagree, but i was just wondeing how you came up with that?

 

 

 

EDIT: nvm, i see it now, aru

[user1991]

The pure also has to train 4 times as much xp as the impure, Some times up to 30x as much.

 

Its not a flaw in the system its reaping the benifits of hard work..

 

I have an impure character that has 99 magic 96 str 85 att and 70 def..

 

Most people my lvl are 80 att str and def, yes i beat them, but they trained 8 million combat xp..

 

I trained 25 million combat xp..

 

If you want everything to be fair go play neopets, in runescape hard work is rewarded.

 

How fun would this game be if every attack style but controlled was removed and every one the same combat lvl was identical?, couse thats what you seem to want.

 

 

 

Word. If you measure it in XP, if both players (impure and pure) had the same combat exp, then the impure would probably win everytime. We train harder, so we deserve the extra power.