skinnymage Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 It's... one of the most gimpable recoveries in the game. 2nd? 3rd? IDK but it's up there. Basically, his cyclone has an exactly small hitbox. Basically, just fair/bair to edgeguard him, because after he uses his cyclone once he's pretty much dead. Hell, you're rob. Rob is one of the best gimpers. And don't forget his lasers. Laser, gyro, and ftilt when he comes too close. Bad can't DI robs dsmash, so abuse it. Spot dodge-> dsmash works decently... and remember, Rob has an extremely large hitboxes on most of his moves. Really, I'd imagine this game would be depending on who spaces better. If your rob doesn't allow the luigi to get within 'boxing' range, you'll rape him. But... if you do, Rob's really out of options because the spot dodge to dsmash (although it works nicely) is stoppable. I'll say this is around even. EDIT: Come to think about it, if Bad can't pshield consistently offline, than he's screwed. Luigi's approach is pretty much useless without the pshield. I actually think the normal A and the dtilt is much better at keeping him away, but R.O.B has no spammable projectile, if you've used your laser and then miss with the gyro and he grabs it, all i have left is to fair him into an easy death, but luigi is a bit floaty, hard to get him locked into the combo. then again... there is my overpowered dsmash.... And... if he has a reallly bad recovery, why cant i [bleep]e it with ganon? :wall: hehe bad wuz here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Robs down air sucks nuts. But it seems ok against a tornado using Luigi I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 It's... one of the most gimpable recoveries in the game. 2nd? 3rd? IDK but it's up there. Basically, his cyclone has an exactly small hitbox. Basically, just fair/bair to edgeguard him, because after he uses his cyclone once he's pretty much dead. Hell, you're rob. Rob is one of the best gimpers. And don't forget his lasers. Laser, gyro, and ftilt when he comes too close. Bad can't DI robs dsmash, so abuse it. Spot dodge-> dsmash works decently... and remember, Rob has an extremely large hitboxes on most of his moves. Really, I'd imagine this game would be depending on who spaces better. If your rob doesn't allow the luigi to get within 'boxing' range, you'll rape him. But... if you do, Rob's really out of options because the spot dodge to dsmash (although it works nicely) is stoppable. I'll say this is around even. EDIT: Come to think about it, if Bad can't pshield consistently offline, than he's screwed. Luigi's approach is pretty much useless without the pshield. I actually think the normal A and the dtilt is much better at keeping him away, but R.O.B has no spammable projectile, if you've used your laser and then miss with the gyro and he grabs it, all i have left is to fair him into an easy death, but luigi is a bit floaty, hard to get him locked into the combo. then again... there is my overpowered dsmash.... And... if he has a reallly bad recovery, why cant i [bleep]e it with ganon? :wall: hehe bad wuz here Because ur gyro wrecks everyones recoverys >_> Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymage Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The whole run away idea got me owned even more.... i cant camp without spammy projectiles... At least my ganon still owns him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ...Rob not spammy? He has the potential to outcamp everybody but Falco and fox... maybe pit. The lasers only takes a few seconds to recharge, and the gyro can be spammed, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHARGE THE GYRO. Use the ftilt to space, it has far longer reach which is what you're looking for. If you can jab, Luigi can own you because you're in his reach. Rob has spammy projectiles. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Fox' camp is much more avoidable than others. No hitstun = gonna getcha! No control of where it goes = gonna getcha! Bad spacing against more than half the tier list above him = Once their close they gotcha! Snake also has a spammy projectile of sorts >.> I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ...Rob not spammy? He has the potential to outcamp everybody but Falco and fox... maybe pit. The lasers only takes a few seconds to recharge, and the gyro can be spammed, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHARGE THE GYRO. Use the ftilt to space, it has far longer reach which is what you're looking for. If you can jab, Luigi can own you because you're in his reach. Rob has spammy projectiles. So i choose battlefield and walk the platforms 8-) And if i get close he runs to the other side or tries to plank on the ledge :wall: Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ROBs laser is moveable. I love teh rebounds. And gyro is fail if your opponent predicts. By the way Lizardo, the match we had where I used Fox, the first thing I did was claw a SHTL. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Everything is fail if your opponent predicts. But, if you space the gyro it'll be good. Just predict spotdodges and punish, just like everything else. Fox has a great camp game, because unless your opponent approaches you are going to do more damage to them then they do to you. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Yeah but hes not stalling them, so it's not that good. Falco however has a more controllable laser that stuns and hits a bit more damage. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Well gyro isnt a problem anymore because my fireballs clank with gyro lazer spam is failure and then i go up to rob, pop him into the air, and it's all over :twss: His Dsmash is still OP though :wall: Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Lol, if you have problems with his Dsmash it means that you're not DI'ing it. Skip to 2:00 Well gyro isnt a problem anymore because my fireballs clank with gyro He still outcamps you with his laser. The gyro makes just gives him more options, and limits yours. lazer spam is failure Then he's not using it right. and then i go up to rob, pop him into the air, and it's all over :twss: You see, you ASSUME that you can just walk up to Rob. If he starts spacing it out, then you can't get to him and he can continue camping/zoning. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 WTF is OP? I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Overpowered. And as I've said, it's easy to DI out of. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 2x easier with SDI. but for ROB's stature, weight and stuff, his D smash is too quick. Damn you Sakurai! If theres a new SSB I wont be surprised if Falcons pawnch takes 5 seconds to wind up btw. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 His size is a weakness for him, and one of his big ones, at that. :| And rob isn't actually heavy, he's just a little above average. But even heavies have fast attacks. I mean, look at Koopa claw (bowsers forward B) I think it comes out on frame 4. He also he a beastly (and fast) grab, jab, and upb. (Notice how they're all OOS) :lol: [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Yeah but that's Bowser. He needs a reason to have something quick to come out of his shield. Not to mention he still has a pretty slow jab and grab. Koopa claw has a stupid hitbox, in the air where I notice it anyway, it's as if only the middle finger is the hitbox :lol: How many frames per second btw? I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 60 frames per second. Koopa claw has a great hitbox. :shock: [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 60 frames per second. Koopa claw has a great hitbox. :shock: Yeah thought it was 60. :shock: I dont watch pro Bowser matches but when I use him it doesnt! :shock:! I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Lol, Bowser is one of my semi-mains. I'm pretty sure we can 1v1 later (1v1's usually don't lag... usually) [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Lol, Bowser is one of my semi-mains. I'm pretty sure we can 1v1 later (1v1's usually don't lag... usually) 2 second lag with my crap connection so I dont think a Bowser match would be that good of an idea. :lol: I find that when I use bowser (I use him to practice shielding and whatnot, usually against my friend) Koopa Klaw screws around with me. One time it has a good hitbox but the next its crap =\ I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Bowser is fun to use to screw with people who don't know how good Bowser is. :) *Points at Bad* [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Bowser is pretty win. Imo he's got the most realistic/best tanking/OOS game there is. 8-) I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tainaith Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Bowser is pretty win. Imo he's got the most realistic/best tanking/OOS game there is. 8-) I enjoy being able to hit Bowser several good times before I get mega-owned. : *99 Cooking Achieved: 4th of July, 2009--99 Fishing Achieved: Christmas Day, 2009--99 Woodcutting Achieved: May 4th, 2010--99 Magic Achieved: September 11, 2010--99 Fletching Achieved: June 14th, 2012--2000 Total Achieved: July 2nd, 2012**1100 Dominion Bosses defeated*Heroes of Newerth player -- IGN: SaveTehPandaStarCraft 2 player -- IGN: plasmaJelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Kinda easy to camp Bowser though. His jump doesn't go very far, he doesn't have a reflector or anything, he can't cancel out most projectiles, and he's a big target. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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