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I meant that after he launches them into the air he can grab them again. You said he might not be able to due to hitlag, but he can.

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No.. He can still grab them as in they dont go into a state where they cant be grabbed, they can attack quickly out of his up throw, I just wanna know if they cloned marths.

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What do you mean by cloned Marth's?

 

 

 

I

 

want to

 

know if

 

Brawl+

 

changed Ikes

 

up throw

 

so its like

 

Marths from

 

melee

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I'm not [developmentally delayed] I'm asking what do you mean by Marth's upthrow. Just the visuals?

 

 

 

The ability to chaingrab fastfallers DI..

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Then no, he can't. Like I said, no hitstun = no chaingrab.

 

 

 

I was wondering because Brawl+ has some hitstun and I was wondering again if it was just the right amount for a little chainlike thing.

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maybe he calls them differently, i remember somebody called disjointed hitboxes unfinished hitboxes lol

 

 

 

I agree lol, maybe he assumed chaingrab meant an infinite chaingrab? :?

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Then why did you say no when I asked if you meant a chaingrab?

 

 

 

I was just confused.

 

 

 

maybe he calls them differently, i remember somebody called disjointed hitboxes unfinished hitboxes lol

 

 

 

That was me. I stand by the fact Snake wasnt completely finished

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Again everybody has invisible hitboxes :XD:

 

 

 

I apparently missed this lecture.

 

 

 

Explain? :D

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As in the hitboxes are never always connected to the actual attack. Like captain falcon's jab. If you're under his hand, it'll still hit you. Or if you BARELY (by a very little) escape ikes ftilt, it'll still hit you. Is snake an extreme case? Yes. But does every character have the same thing to a lesser extent? Yes. So does that mean every single character has a unfinished hitbox?

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Yeah but most of those are only one or two of the characters attacks, they dont kill at smash percentages =/.

 

 

 

I stand by 'Snake is unfinished'. Since he has so many disjointed hitboxes, and overpowered things you cant say I'm wrong until Sakurai says anything :P

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I do agree that it should be smaller, but I wouldn't say it's unfinished because Sakurai delayed the game for months. There are far more unfinished factors in the game, like how Shiek can ftilt lock. And no, as in basically every attack is disjointed to an extremely small extent, even killers. If you're saying all disjointed attacks that kill are broken, then...

 

 

 

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No Kent what the [bleep] dude, stop being so defensive. -.-

 

Like a normal developer Sakurai would think "do the best we can in just ___ weeks/months, we dont want more people crying about the release" thus we have snake and mk like they are now.

 

I dont F tilt lock much anyway btw :D

 

 

 

Fine if you really want to be right all the time do I have to detail everything I post?

 

Extremely disjointed hitboxes.

 

Not just hitboxes I guess?

 

;)

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I do agree that it should be smaller, but I wouldn't say it's unfinished because Sakurai delayed the game for months. There are far more unfinished factors in the game, like how Shiek can ftilt lock. And no, as in basically every attack is disjointed to an extremely small extent, even killers. If you're saying all disjointed attacks that kill are broken, then...

 

 

 

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OMG BROKEN

 

 

 

But those make sense. The hitbox is actually somewhere near Falcon's body when it connects.

 

 

 

Snake's utilt and 2nd hit of ftilt, however, hit like 3 feet ahead of his arms.

 

 

 

And his bair's hitbox somehow reaches to his head, and it's a kick....

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I'm not being defensive, I'm just saying that everything you say makes no sense.

 

 

 

And Olimar is more disjointed.

 

 

 

Olimar has a reason.

 

Snakes foot that goes up straight hits around him, Olimar atleast throws random coloured ..things at people to hit them..

 

 

 

And I dont see how saying Snake has hugely disjointed hitboxes makes no sense when it's obviously true

 

Or when saying Snake has a pretty high chance of being 'unfinished'..

 

 

 

I'm only gonna tell you this once Ray: Stop fighting an argument you can't win.

 

 

 

Stop sucking up to Kent first.

 

And seriously, it's barely an argument. I state an opinion and Kent thinks it's wrong and he's right. This is solely an opinion, but Kent, knowing everything has to be right.

 

 

 

And Zaaps just proved me right and Kent wrong =/

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