Celt23 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I kind of like this + or - system on Digg/Youtube, but I think that it's fine the way it is here. As Cowman said, the mods already do a splendid enough job. This thumbs up/thumbs down system can also be abused, so why open up that possibility when there's no need to? If it's only positve rating though, that doesn't sound bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooferfish Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I love this idea. I have used it before, and I really think it works well. I stand fully behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 If one person can only give out 1-5+'s a day I really think it should be users can only receive, and not give, 5+/-'s each day, would be able to prevent a lot more, and be easier for the users to get their rating restarted, or disabled. Was thinking this feature could be disabled in the profile, and be optional. And then for those who do have it enabled can have their total ratings in percent of how many +'s and '-'s they have overall from their various posts. No high score system intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_odie Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I don't being able to give negative. Thats what moderators are for. The plus system would be coolio however! Everyone can have it on the forum cept skatedog tho.... :lol: But seriously a positive ranking button would be really cool. RIP MichaelangelopolousThanks to cowboy14 for the pimp sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I don't being able to give negative. Thats what moderators are for. The plus system would be coolio however! Everyone can have it on the forum cept skatedog tho.... :lol: But seriously a positive ranking button would be really cool. Only because I'd get more positive ratings than you. :) And it's not much of a rating system if you take out the negative aspect of it. I'd agree if this forum was oriented towards 5, 6, or 7 year olds, but it's for 13+, and they better be able to handle getting negative ratings, as they will definitely get negative feedback from their posts if it is necessary. Don't think the system should even be implemented without both ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_odie Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I don't being able to give negative. Thats what moderators are for. The plus system would be coolio however! Everyone can have it on the forum cept skatedog tho.... :lol: But seriously a positive ranking button would be really cool. Only because I'd get more positive ratings than you. :) And it's not much of a rating system if you take out the negative aspect of it. I'd agree if this forum was oriented towards 5, 6, or 7 year olds, but it's for 13+, and they better be able to handle getting negative ratings, as they will definitely get negative feedback from their posts if it is necessary. Don't think the system should even be implemented without both ends. I see your point, and agree, but I don't think that users should get prejudged on other's opinions. It it was only a positive rating system it would get abused still. Blogs saying, give me + ratings because they are friends. I have not used a forum with this in place so thats just my overall view of it. RIP MichaelangelopolousThanks to cowboy14 for the pimp sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 Skatedog, I agree that it's not as useful without negative ratings, but the general consensus here usually is to err on the side of caution, assuming if something can be abused, it will be. As for blog ratings n odie, it would make sense for the initial post to have a lot of + ratings. A lot of effort is put into one. A limit to 1 + per person would be instated too for asking friends to give +'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_odie Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Skatedog, I agree that it's not as useful without negative ratings, but the general consensus here usually is to err on the side of caution, assuming if something can be abused, it will be. As for blog ratings n odie, it would make sense for the initial post to have a lot of + ratings. A lot of effort is put into one. A limit to 1 + per person would be instated too for asking friends to give +'s. I was using that as a quick example. The people who make blogs right have my respect. :D The main point as you said is abuse. Why put something that can be abused when we don't need it. I was thinking about having a post req before you can give a rating but truth be told some of the high posters are stuck up (not saying all are and I am in no way implying this to 1 person). :P RIP MichaelangelopolousThanks to cowboy14 for the pimp sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 Skatedog, I agree that it's not as useful without negative ratings, but the general consensus here usually is to err on the side of caution, assuming if something can be abused, it will be. As for blog ratings n odie, it would make sense for the initial post to have a lot of + ratings. A lot of effort is put into one. A limit to 1 + per person would be instated too for asking friends to give +'s. I was using that as a quick example. The people who make blogs right have my respect. :D The main point as you said is abuse. Why put something that can be abused when we don't need it. I was thinking about having a post req before you can give a rating but truth be told some of the high posters are stuck up (not saying all are and I am in no way implying this to 1 person). :P You need to have a little faith to go forward with anything. Why should we have image tags? They can be abused. Or why even have a forum at all? People can post abusive/harmful/insulting things. The point is the cons are negligible compared to the pros. There is room for very little abuse with this. I could cite examples of how other forum features could be abused, but what's the point? Anything can be abused - that doesn't mean we shouldn't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Devoted12- Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I kind of like this + or - system on Digg/Youtube, but I think that it's fine the way it is here. As Cowman said, the mods already do a splendid enough job. This thumbs up/thumbs down system can also be abused, so why open up that possibility when there's no need to? If it's only positve rating though, that doesn't sound bad. Ha ha, I hate the thumb up/down system on Youtube. If someone doesn't agree with the video, whether it is political views or whatever, they go through any comment that is pro for the video and give them a thumbs down and Vice Versa despite their comment being good or bad. They are mainly just ignorant. Anyways, back on to topic. I like how you took out the negative situation. As for only positives, I can see how it can benefit the forum, but I also can see it just becomming plain annoying. To be honest, I wouldn't mind it going any way, but I really don't want this to happen, for no particular reason, really. I have never been in favor of those kinds of systems, although it does benefit some forums. (It also hurts some.) I think we are fine how it is, but if it is implemented, I will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 The 'give me + ratings' is only created because there's no danger of receiving negative ratings anymore. Taking out the one creates another problem. Also, I'd assume moderators would still be moderating it, which would decrease abuse drastically. I honestly think the abuse thing is going to far, and we're just picturing worst case scenarios that are only going to happen without implementing said features; 5 ratings per user to receive per day; 2 ratings per user to give per day; strictly enforcing it's rules; post count requirement. The post count requirement I'd have to agree to though. 50-75 posts. Just because it seems appropriate to reward users for the posting they've made, and 50-75 isn't hard to get as already expressed by others in previous topics, so it's not restraining anyone either. It just stops multiple accounts being created to abuse the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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