Jagex hatred

[mervinator_9]

ok so in a thread in this forum i found this:

 

 

 

Now may I ask: Who, or what else, did similar things that an autocrat power controlled its people's thoughts and actions? the Soviet communists? the Nazi? African slavery societies? many examples across the worlds are like exactly what Jagex is doing, and they have been taken down. I wonder when would Jagex notice this fact and begin to think an inner change of the game before it develops further.

 

 

 

You might say that those who commit themselves in runescape are willing to do so. I disagree to that. Notice that I stated earlier, Jagex used the greed nature of humans and abused it. Think of the majority of people who are playing Runescape. More people under the age of 18 are playing Runescape than any other age range. Young people usually can't get themselves out of that addiction, and it is this point that Jagex is using. What else abused human greed? Religions wise, Satan did. So did Jagex.

 

 

 

 

okay so its a little harsh picking someone out like that and quoting them ( i apologise, but i did leave the name out) however just read it, a total dramatisation(sp) i accept but peoples hatred for jagex is intensifing

 

how can people compared jagex to such things, i wish this was a isolated case but you see it everywhere on these boards, in GD there are two topics on riots alone

 

 

 

so the debate topic here is really:

 

 

 

How can some people hate jagex this much and do you really think jagex deserves it?

 

 

 

IMO, they dont and people should be just as mad with game as the develops, people love to slate jagex but often less quick to slate RS and its players

 

anyway what do you think?

[highlanders]

Taken out of context like that, it's difficult to see where the quoted person is going, but there are more some thoughts going on there other than OMG I hate Jagex. Seems he is denouncing capitalism. Jagex is a company, and like all companies, they exploit people. That's what companies do by their nature. Everything we buy, somebody somewhere is making a profit on it. Companies even make money off of death. People go the supermarket and buy some food, usually something processed and highly marketed, or even trick labeled as healthy. After years of consuming poor food, people get health problems. They go buy some pills to treat the symptoms, and become addicted to them. After a while, they enter hospitals and get huge health bills, then they either die, or survive to die another day. That's basically the wheel of death right there. And meanwhile people seem to be looking for the "cure" to all those disease, dozens of different universities and establishments publish studies about certain health foods that prevent said diseases, this is like a parody or a sketch, but it's real and that's why it's so pathetic. Credit card companies go into colleges and universities to try and sell credit cards to clueless young adults. People are coaxed into a ton of beliefs of all sorts. Just now I can see a "Kraft singles sliced cheese" commercial on TV in which the company tries to make you believe their product contains calcium, and is thus healthy and good for growing kids. Of course, they don't mention that milk is pasteurized(thus all good nutrients killed) contains blood and pus, is made from cows stuffed with growth hormones and antibiotics, that cheese is filled with dangerous conservation agents, and that kraft singles cheese is barely even cheese to begin with. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of how screwed up capitalist society is. Taken all that into account, Jagex's wrong doings are really completely meaningless in the big picture, there are far worse things to be denoucing.

 

 

 

As for why so many people hate Jagex for no reason: for the same reason some people love them unconditionally. Stupidity, and superego, you'll need some psychology background to understand why the later.

[Doryphore]

I agree that capitalism is a terrible thing but talking about people eating poor food has something to do with Jagex?

[MicroLegionnaire]

After removing the Wilderness and free trade, its unavoidable that they draw flak, and yeah, its reasonable that people resent them for it.

 

 

 

Now for mean little MicroLegionnaire to try and poke holes in the man's argument I'm afraid.

 

 

 

It says Hitler, Stalin, and all the other autocratic dictatorships manipulated human greed. But to what end? Their own benefit of course.

 

 

 

I doubt Jagex has benefited in any way by doing what they've done, aside from rid the game of most bots and real world traders, which was a necessity in this case to keep RuneScape as a whole running, because credit card companies threatened to sue or shut down RuneScape because of the credit card frauds that the RWT's caused.

[Alg]

One could see that as benefiting themselves, though. If you were a PKer, your part of the game was changed to the point that most don't even acknowledge the change. There's nothing you gained, and the company, which before just seemed to be out to make money, threw out your area of the game for little/no reason (If you never read the news pages, the forums, or fansites that post them, that is).

 

 

 

However, comparisons to Nazis, Slave Societies, and the rest of the mentioned are a bit of a stretch, wouldn't you say? This is an online game company, they do not kill or somehow cause the deaths of many with their product, and for the most part, do not manipulate their customers like Satan.

 

 

 

It still sounds like a project made by a programmer who wanted to make something fun... Which has resulted in quite a bit, for him and for the players.

[Rock Hard]

I'm disappointed in the direction Jadex have taken RS, and to a certain extent do resent them for 'taking away my toys'.

 

 

 

However no, they don't deserve to be hated in any sense of the word - It's their game and they are free to develop it in any way they wish. Just as we are free to express our objections by not playing.

 

 

 

The difference between a RS 'autocracy' and a real life dictatorship is that in RS you are free. Free to walk away from any perceived injustices without a care in the world.

 

 

 

The addiction card? I'm sure Jadex are aware of how addicting their game is, and i'm sure at the end of the month they are very grateful for the horde of hooked gamers lining their pocket. - However that's just how business works. You sell a product, and you do everything you can to ensure your product keeps getting sold. That's not evil, that's life.

[Giordano]

OMGWTFBBQROFL! "people under the age of 18 are playing Runescape than any other age range. Young people usually can't get themselves out of that addiction, and it is this point that Jagex is using"

 

Read that part and understood everything. This guy is a total idiot! Its like the Jews and the Nazis, they lived in Germany and were poor so they couldn't escape, thus they were captured by the Nazis. As if RuneScape players had no choice! Jews couldn't leave the cocentration camps, but we can certainly leave Jagex behind.

 

I offically stopped playing after the Dec. 10 updates. I think it was a very ill-thought out move for Jagex, but alas its their game. I'm not doing something I don't want to do. If you guys hate Jagex so much, then leave the damn place! :lol:

[henman888]

How can you hate jagex?

 

Without them you wouldn't even be playing this game.

[Bloodkay]

I agree. Talking about dictatorship and Satan and comparing them to Jagex is taking it too far. they seriously do not deserve this kind of flaming. Why in gods name would you even be playing this game still and using Runescape-related forums if you had such an intense hatred for Runescape and Jagex?

 

 

 

I understand how people are mad, but seriously, no one really has any say in what Jagex decides to do with their game, right? People like that, especially ones with that kind of hate towards Jagex, need to quit or get over it.

[Lem2222]

I agree with the 1st post that Maby you should post the whole discussion that way we know the entire topic. But yea it does sound really really harsh to Jagex. I meen I can never like Jagex like before because of the trading restrictions but I can never compare it like that. :|

[amitoz]

Just now I can see a "Kraft singles sliced cheese" commercial on TV in which the company tries to make you believe their product contains calcium, and is thus healthy and good for growing kids. Of course, they don't mention that milk is pasteurized(thus all good nutrients killed) contains blood and pus, is made from cows stuffed with growth hormones and antibiotics, that cheese is filled with dangerous conservation agents, and that kraft singles cheese is barely even cheese to begin with.

 

 

 

You made me barf.