ReapMe Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 people are spending hundreds of hours to get crimson charms as fast as they can at 2k-6k each if they could get it instantly they'd gladly pay 10k+ each for them gold - 500 ea green - 2k ea crimsons - 6k ea blues - 15k ea What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Lol 30k a crimson charm? more like 5k >.< Do you have any idea how crowded waterfiends would be if crimson charms were 30k each? im thinking more like 30k a blue charm. 5k? No way, what does waterfiends being crowded have to do with a lower price? If they were crowded, more people would buy them, causing the price to rise. 30k is on the high side, I'd guess they'd settle at around 20-25k. It could be higher, if there are a lot of rich-but-lazy people who find gathering charms boring. it takes some hours to gather 1k crimson, where if your lucky it takes 1 trip to get arma hilt ;) so you can possible more cash if you buy charms and get money back gwd'ing :thumbsup: Yup. Theoretically, I make around 4m an hour at sara, and average around 2m an hour at bandos. So if I can either make 4m, or get 90 crimson charms, to me the crimson charms are worth over 44k each. Even at bandos, its over 22k per charm, and sara seems to be better money so far. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 There's no way crimson would be 10k each. They aren't even a rare charm to get. The market would be completely flooded with them. No, there not rare, but they do take a while to get in large quantities. Plus, there are a limited number of ways to farm them; there are only so many waterfiends and rock lobsters. And there are a LOT of people willing to pay through the nose to get them. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 people are spending hundreds of hours to get crimson charms as fast as they can at 2k-6k each if they could get it instantly they'd gladly pay 10k+ each for them gold - 500 ea green - 2k ea crimsons - 6k ea blues - 15k ea If they would gladly pay 10k+ each for them, why would they only be 6k? Good point though, bursting is about 5-6k per crimson, and is only around 120 per hour; if someone is willing to pay that much for a fairly slow gathering method, wouldn't they pay much more for instant charms? How would they possibly go below 6k each? Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soma2035 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 People pay 4,000 to 6,000 each for crimson charms AND put effort into bursting. Admittedly they get some XP out of it but many of these people have 99 already. I'd estimate charm prices at: Gold - 500 to 1,000 (Several decent familiars, acceptable experience) Green - 250 to 500 (Many good familiars, but horrible experience, you don't need that many for the wanted familiars) Crimson - 3,000 to 10,000 (Mediocre familiars but VERY good and fast experience.) Blue - 5,000 to 10,000 (Best Familiars, can be obtained regularly) Want to learn to Nex? The Nex Hunters are recruiting! Click for more information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrakus Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 If Jagex were to make Charms tradable, they would do like they have done with everything else and give them a ridiculously low starting price. Then most of the initial trading would take place on the forums with a lot of junk being added. Not really sure where the prices would finally settle, but I would imagine they would be along the lines of bone prices: Gold/Greens = regular/big bones Crimsons = dragon bones Blues = dagannoth bones Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 People pay 4,000 to 6,000 each for crimson charms AND put effort into bursting. Admittedly they get some XP out of it but many of these people have 99 already. I'd estimate charm prices at: Gold - 500 to 1,000 (Several decent familiars, acceptable experience) Green - 250 to 500 (Many good familiars, but horrible experience, you don't need that many for the wanted familiars) Crimson - 3,000 to 10,000 (Mediocre familiars but VERY good and fast experience.) Blue - 5,000 to 10,000 (Best Familiars, can be obtained regularly) Gold 250 500? "horrrible" experience? Hello, you can break 300K XP\hour with them, better then virtually any other skill. Face it, summoning can be leveled so fast by pouchcrafting that the prices HAVE to be high. And its worth it; I'm 89 summoning, and the unicorn stallion alone is worth 100s of millions to me. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 If Jagex were to make Charms tradable, they would do like they have done with everything else and give them a ridiculously low starting price. Then most of the initial trading would take place on the forums with a lot of junk being added. Not really sure where the prices would finally settle, but I would imagine they would be along the lines of bone prices: Gold/Greens = regular/big bones Crimsons = dragon bones Blues = dagannoth bones How would that work? Not only do those charms provide much more XP then those respective bones at higher levels, you can craft them more then twice as fast as offering bones, which requires a high construction level or a helpful friend. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soma2035 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 People pay 4,000 to 6,000 each for crimson charms AND put effort into bursting. Admittedly they get some XP out of it but many of these people have 99 already. I'd estimate charm prices at: Gold - 500 to 1,000 (Several decent familiars, acceptable experience) Green - 250 to 500 (Many good familiars, but horrible experience, you don't need that many for the wanted familiars) Crimson - 3,000 to 10,000 (Mediocre familiars but VERY good and fast experience.) Blue - 5,000 to 10,000 (Best Familiars, can be obtained regularly) Gold 250 500? "horrrible" experience? Hello, you can break 300K XP\hour with them, better then virtually any other skill. Face it, summoning can be leveled so fast by pouchcrafting that the prices HAVE to be high. And its worth it; I'm 89 summoning, and the unicorn stallion alone is worth 100s of millions to me. I didn't say gold are horrible. I said GREEN are horrible. And green is lousy because of the cost of shards. Green are easily available from tons and tons of monsters and I have more than I know what to do with. Gold are good, but so easy to get in bulk that they couldn't be too expensive. Want to learn to Nex? The Nex Hunters are recruiting! Click for more information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 People pay 4,000 to 6,000 each for crimson charms AND put effort into bursting. Admittedly they get some XP out of it but many of these people have 99 already. I'd estimate charm prices at: Gold - 500 to 1,000 (Several decent familiars, acceptable experience) Green - 250 to 500 (Many good familiars, but horrible experience, you don't need that many for the wanted familiars) Crimson - 3,000 to 10,000 (Mediocre familiars but VERY good and fast experience.) Blue - 5,000 to 10,000 (Best Familiars, can be obtained regularly) Gold 250 500? "horrrible" experience? Hello, you can break 300K XP\hour with them, better then virtually any other skill. Face it, summoning can be leveled so fast by pouchcrafting that the prices HAVE to be high. And its worth it; I'm 89 summoning, and the unicorn stallion alone is worth 100s of millions to me. I didn't say gold are horrible. I said GREEN are horrible. And green is lousy because of the cost of shards. Green are easily available from tons and tons of monsters and I have more than I know what to do with. Gold are good, but so easy to get in bulk that they couldn't be too expensive. Shard cost is fairly small with trading, but the only way green could stay low would be if everyone used crimson for expensive leveling, and gold for cheaper leveling. Green would be left out until its price went low enough to make it cheaper\faster then gold, which could be fairly quickly if prices go up to what I believe they would. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk822 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Well it takes ~40k crimson charms for 99 summoning, so if they were around 10kea I think people would gladly pay that much. They could easily probably go up to 20 or 30k ea. Greens would stay at about 2-3kea. Golds at about 3kea, and Blues probably at around 50kea. This is going on how much it would cost for someone to buy 99 with the given charms, which I settled on around 100m on charms alone. And looking at how easy it would be for people to buy this skill, I realize why charms are untradeable. 4031st person to 99 Thieving on 5/25/2008If anyone plays NBA Live '08 online on the Wii please PM me. I'm up for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I was just thinking about a skill similar to Runecrafting: Charm Crafting. Naturally it would kill summoning. best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I find it really hard to predict prices because of 2 conflicting reasons: 1) 99 requires "only" 40k crimsons, and you can get it in a day, once you got the charms. That's why I'd say it would cost AT LEAST 100m, just for the charms. 2) On the other hand, with 15k per crimson charm (or even more, 20k), waterfiends would be an AMAZING money maker. 70-100 crimsons an hour. Garantueed 1-2M an hour. (if you dont use charms yourself that is). A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Gold: 8K, Green: 12K, Crimson: 30k, Blue: 70k. At least, that's what I'd be willing to pay for them, and I'm sure some others with access to the best money making methods would too. At the lowest, crimson would never drop below 10k and blues below 25k. And you get how many charms from Wolf Whistle again? Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Gold: 8K, Green: 12K, Crimson: 30k, Blue: 70k. At least, that's what I'd be willing to pay for them, and I'm sure some others with access to the best money making methods would too. At the lowest, crimson would never drop below 10k and blues below 25k. And you get how many charms from Wolf Whistle again? Erm, 125 of them? Yeah, the quest reward would be worth 1m. What's that got to do with it? Obviously it'd upset the balance of the game, allowing even new players to make massive amounts of money, but allowing people who wish to train summoning to get 99 in under a day, for a small amount of cash. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zwyrm Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Gold: 10gp - they're so easy to get (I have like 3k of them in bank) Green: 600gp - they're not easy to get imo, but some monsters abviously drop them more often Crimson: 800gp - almost as common as green's Blue: 9k - not that common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Gold: 10gp - they're so easy to get (I have like 3k of them in bank) Green: 600gp - they're not easy to get imo, but some monsters abviously drop them more often Crimson: 800gp - almost as common as green's Blue: 9k - not that common Hahhaahah - that puts the cost of 99 summoning at roughly 300k for the cheapest method, at roughly 120k xp\hour, and 3.2m for the fast\expensive method, getting roughly 700k xp\hour. Obviously there is still a fair cost for the shards and 2nds, but still... Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Gold: 8K, Green: 12K, Crimson: 30k, Blue: 70k. At least, that's what I'd be willing to pay for them, and I'm sure some others with access to the best money making methods would too. At the lowest, crimson would never drop below 10k and blues below 25k. And you get how many charms from Wolf Whistle again? Erm, 125 of them? Yeah, the quest reward would be worth 1m. What's that got to do with it? Obviously it'd upset the balance of the game, allowing even new players to make massive amounts of money, but allowing people who wish to train summoning to get 99 in under a day, for a small amount of cash. No, 275. That entitles anyone who finishes a 15-minute quest to 2.2 mil. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Gold: 8K, Green: 12K, Crimson: 30k, Blue: 70k. At least, that's what I'd be willing to pay for them, and I'm sure some others with access to the best money making methods would too. At the lowest, crimson would never drop below 10k and blues below 25k. And you get how many charms from Wolf Whistle again? Erm, 125 of them? Yeah, the quest reward would be worth 1m. What's that got to do with it? Obviously it'd upset the balance of the game, allowing even new players to make massive amounts of money, but allowing people who wish to train summoning to get 99 in under a day, for a small amount of cash. No, 275. That entitles anyone who finishes a 15-minute quest to 2.2 mil. Too long since I did that quest. Like I said, that's how it would be; it would unbalance major parts of the game. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes_Its_Ross Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I wouldn't even care. I wouldn't train summoning at all. I'd rather sell all the charms that I would get if they are expensive. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomy Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Gold: 8K, Green: 12K, Crimson: 30k, Blue: 70k. At least, that's what I'd be willing to pay for them, and I'm sure some others with access to the best money making methods would too. At the lowest, crimson would never drop below 10k and blues below 25k. And you get how many charms from Wolf Whistle again? Erm, 125 of them? Yeah, the quest reward would be worth 1m. What's that got to do with it? Obviously it'd upset the balance of the game, allowing even new players to make massive amounts of money, but allowing people who wish to train summoning to get 99 in under a day, for a small amount of cash. But people would all buy them at Min Price cos they're easy to get, and the price would go down anyway. Doomy edit: I like sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 ^What he said. By that, I meant your prices, at least for golds, were going to drop. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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