Your RuneScape account should be, in Jagex' eyes, a representation of the things you've accomplished in the virtual world of Runescape, yourself. Any outside help, be it someone else spending countless hours working on a skill, or doing something tricky like fight caves or a certain quest, invalidates this, and gives you an "unfair", or undeserved advantage over fellow players who do stick to the rules. Things like a Fire Cape or having some skills at 99 give you a form of status. This would be undeserved if you didn't actually earn any of it yourself, or didn't do all the work involved.

 

 

 

If someone would hop on someones account simply to pass on a message to somebody else who for some reason is only reachable through 'Scape (can't really think of a scenario right know, think of this as a "what if" example), then I personally wouldn't have any problems with that. (Keep in mind that this is my opinion - Tip.It as a whole stands firmly behind Jagex' rules) However, as soon as that person decides to do anything that might benefit the actual owner of the account, I'd be against it, as from that point on, the account is no longer the owner's own accomplishment. And considering it'd be very hard and timeconsuming, if not impossible for Jagex to validate claims of "I wasn't doing anythings at all, honests!", I completely understand their reasoning to outlaw account sharing altogether.

 

 

 

By outlaw you mean ban? Anyhow, Jagex says the rule is to protect players from losing accounts and so on...

 

 

 

The only thing i don't like by the rule: is that it's not investigated before you actually ban the player. I mean, ban those who really Account Share on highest level, rather those who just get one time help.

 

 

 

One time helping i don't mind: Puzzles, killing Jad (The owner must get there, the helper helps killing boss), Do a quest (Not more than 1-2 quests or it's dumb), and so on.

 

 

 

I don't see how these things are any benefits, the solo players are smarter and faster. So it's not like these things are hard for solo players to accomplish.

 

 

 

Things i don't like: leveling, cash making, etc= things that takes alot time.

 

 

 

As for accomplishment thing: I agree, there shouldn't be like that. But small things that is very very hard for a player, is something i accept. When i got puzzles as fresh Cluer, i found them impossible as hell! I always got and most of time dropped it.

 

 

 

I was like "Darn" :wall: Anyhow for some raeson i kept trying and now my record is doing a puzzle in 5 min =D> But that's way of my gaming. But if a player who hasn't tried solving the puzzle....asks for help then that's another thing. But if a player has tried hard and still failed, i wouldn't mind lending a hand.

By outlaw you mean ban? Anyhow, Jagex says the rule is to protect players from losing accounts and so on...

 

 

 

The only thing i don't like by the rule: is that it's not investigated before you actually ban the player. I mean, ban those who really Account Share on highest level, rather those who just get one time help.

 

 

 

Yes, I meant ban. And no, I don't think that minor offenses should be instantly banhammered - one should only resort to bans under the most dire circumstances.

 

 

 

But if a player who hasn't tried solving the puzzle....asks for help then that's another thing. But if a player has tried hard and still failed, i wouldn't mind lending a hand.

 

 

 

I'd prefer to teach them how to do it right, instead of doing it for them. Take our dear Tip.It website, for example. If I can't figure out how to make something work, I can't just go like "hai gusy, don't get this, please fix" and have someone else do it for me. With many things in life, you'll just have to learn and do things yourself. Runescape's a good place to start, I'd say. Consider the reward for a puzzle an encouragement for people to learn things.

Yeah i understand what you mean. Unlike others i discovered things myself, although i have used guides :lol:

 

 

 

Also i am happy to see that you have same thinking of it like me. But please do explain "Dire"? I am not English and i don't have a dictionary to look up words #-o

 

 

 

Anyhow, about things. It's cool to help someone out, let's say puzzles. But believe me, i used tip.it guide on treasure trails website, and i didn't get it, :| . Back then i wasn't part of the forum community. But yeah i tried the guide, and i didn't manage it. But i guess you have to look it a other way: people are different. Something that's hard for you, might be easy for me ;) But i don't doubt that with a little training you can manage to solve the puzzle. But helping someone out in beginning, isn't bad to me.

 

 

 

Also there's a disadvantage, if you need help with Puzzle: You gotta wait til your friend can solve it - In other words: that might motivate you to learn to solve puzzles :)

 

 

 

But i wouldn't ask for help, unless it's a thing that's highly complex. Even if my best friend on runescape would solve puzzle for me, i doubt i would say "YES". Cause that's putting my account in risk....+ i like doing things myself :mrgreen:

I think Jagex should allow one type of account sharing- When the owner logs his account on, and then his friend comes over to his house and help him with, say, a quest. But any sharing that involves giving anyone else your password=bad, especially account selling. But to be honest, there's really no way to detect the account sharing as mentioned above, so basically, account sharing works.

The rule is there to keep playing the game fair. If account sharing was allowed, an account could be on 24/7 with people across the globe.

 

 

 

If you share once, you broke the rule. It is actually still sharing.

The rule is there to keep playing the game fair. If account sharing was allowed, an account could be on 24/7 with people across the globe.

 

 

 

If you share once, you broke the rule. It is actually still sharing.

 

 

 

Let me explain the two types of Account Sharing:

 

 

 

1: You get one-time help with something, from a well known friend/irl friend

 

 

 

NOTICE: You don't get any advantage here. There is no 24/7 activity on account. Someone help you and once they have helped you, they go out of your account and you change your pass. As i said: This is stupid to do if you don't know the person very well.

 

 

 

2: You share your account with a wellknown friend/irl friend. This is as you say 24/7 with people across the globe.

 

 

 

Now: Jagex has made "Account Sharing" rule to protect us from getting our account stolen and such things. So if Jagex's motiv is that 24/7 activity of a account: in other words: Highly account sharing is something that is unfair for game....then i agree.

 

 

 

But i don't see how this should apply for players who do nr 1 account sharing.

 

 

 

How is Jagex protecting us? They are literally threating us, that if we break the rule they are gonna bann us. One thing i would love to see, is that Jagex investegates the "ACcount Sharing Activity" (Many Ips..):

 

 

 

So if they see many ips on a account, for a good time then they should realize that: this account is account sharing. So they should look into it and warn the owner.

 

 

 

But baning people who's let someone be on their account just for one time, is overdoing it.

tbh me and my friend have been breaking this rule for years

 

even though our ip's are in different countries, we haven't been warned/banned for it

 

this rule isn't enforced very well

Double post sorry...

Personally I believe this rule should be left to the players. Its a player responsibility to make sure that if they do share, they have a bank pin so that their account can be safe. I mean if you trust some one and they screw(driver) you over then its your fault. Jagex can only supply safety so far. Its up to the player to apply it and use it to the extent that they want.

 

 

 

I mean the only thing I would need help with is slide puzzles because they are impossible to me and have never been able to actually complete one.

 

 

 

As long as the player who gives his password away approaches the person who they want to be on there account then its fine in my book. If someone is trying to get someone else's password, for their on personal gain then yes it is reportable.

 

 

 

With that being said: Does anyone want to do a puzzle box for me :D :ohnoes: :oops:

 

Pm on this forum if you do =P

Personally I believe this rule should be left to the players. Its a player responsibility to make sure that if they do share, they have a bank pin so that their account can be safe. I mean if you trust some one and they screw(driver) you over then its your fault. Jagex can only supply safety so far. Its up to the player to apply it and use it to the extent that they want.

 

 

 

I mean the only thing I would need help with is slide puzzles because they are impossible to me and have never been able to actually complete one.

 

 

 

As long as the player who gives his password away approaches the person who they want to be on there account then its fine in my book. If someone is trying to get someone else's password, for their on personal gain then yes it is reportable.

 

 

 

With that being said: Does anyone want to do a puzzle box for me :D :ohnoes: :oops:

 

Pm on this forum if you do =P

 

 

 

I would ;) But with that said, i also doubt you trust me. Also isn't it a bit careless to ask on forum? And i guess your joking too.

 

 

 

But hey reason i would help you solve it: is cause i don't lie to you when i say i am trustworthy. But i am just saying. :

How does the "big J" discover accout sharig, other then people actully saying they do?

How does the "big J" discover accout sharig, other then people actully saying they do?

 

 

 

From what i have gotten with me: They see where you log in from...

 

 

 

 

 

IP adress in other words.

It used to be a problem because players who shared were constantly getting "hacked" or claiming to be hacked when actually the person or people they shared with took their items. Nowadays, well I guess they could drop all your items, ouch.

 

 

 

 

*cough* or transfer them in bounty hunter :thumbsup: *cough* *cough*

 

 

 

I forgot that but they would have to sell off the items and buy expensive armor/weaps...and surely there would be other people in BH?

How does the "big J" discover accout sharig, other then people actully saying they do?

 

 

 

From what i have gotten with me: They see where you log in from...

 

 

 

 

 

IP adress in other words.

 

I regularly play Runescape on different IP's, mainly because I keep needing to refresh mine ;) ... I think that there's really no way Jagex could base it on IP's alone, because one of the cool things about Rs is that you can play it virtually anywhere. I can't really see how they can enforce this rule at all, other than cracking down on account selling sites.

How does the "big J" discover accout sharig, other then people actully saying they do?

 

 

 

From what i have gotten with me: They see where you log in from...

 

 

 

 

 

IP adress in other words.

 

 

 

Can't be because they see you on another IP, I've played when I was in Shanghai on a holiday, and my friend played plenty when he was touring Germany, and nothing happened.

They can't ban because IP's are different, what if you logged in at a friend's house? Perhaps if they were changing day in and day out from DIFFERENT countries then someone can get suspicious, however, there are such things as routers and sometimes I get routed to a different place when connecting to the internet. Various times, when I was in Dubai, I would get an IP starting with 210.XXX.XXX.XXX and other times 83.XXX.XXX.XXX. I was rather confused when I found out, the 83 had to do with a German ISP, I called up my ISP and I discovered that there was some link or some kind of heavy usage policy where they redirected some users to another ISP line during peak hours. This kind of thing is not impossible and does happen. So Jagex will not be banning over different IP's like this, contrary to popular belief.

I agree with you. Me and my friend used to help each other out all the time. er umm no we didn't :^o

 

 

 

and how do they have proof of account sharing unless someone says they are in the chat or something?

 

 

 

EDIT: I just saw that someone already answered my question, and they can't tell by IPs b/c some peoples change all the time, and you can log in on different computers

How does the "big J" discover accout sharig, other then people actully saying they do?

 

It must very hard, apart from confessions. Maybe if an account is logged in for more daily hours than polyphasic sleep allows.

 

 

 

Hey people, I'm feeling in a generous mood. Want to know what's the no-lifers on top highscores secret? That thing I just mentioned above :P Yogosun better watch out.

How does the "big J" discover accout sharig, other then people actully saying they do?

 

It must very hard, apart from confessions. Maybe if an account is logged in for more daily hours than polyphasic sleep allows.

 

 

 

Hey people, I'm feeling in a generous mood. Want to know what's the no-lifers on top highscores secret? That thing I just mentioned above :P Yogosun better watch out.

 

personally I would say its a bot if its on that long, but yeah thats a good theory