Hey, i wanted to discuss Account Sharing. First i wanna remind you of the rule:

 

 

 

But please read well through the thread before you flame/or something.

 

 

 

 

Each account should only be used by ONE person. Account sharing is NOT allowed. You may not sell, transfer or lend your account to anyone else, or permit anyone else to use your account, and you may not accept an account that anybody else offers you.

 

 

 

 

The rule goes also for Account Trading.

 

 

 

On topic. I have thought of how Account Sharing is bad, and how it's good. For example, if you share a account with someone on the game who's a totally stranger or let's say eventually become best friends with is stupid. Why? Because you can never know...One day you might be logging in and your all robbed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Question 1: Would you say that someone you know in real life, goes on your account for "ONE TIME", to help you out be "Account Sharing"?

 

 

 

Why and why not? I would say myself that no this is not Account Sharing. You can just listen to the words meaning "Account Sharing": Which means that you and another player share a account for a good while. But going on someone's Account or letting someone go on your account for a "One-Time" thing to help you out isn't. Cause you wouldn't let that player go on your account again, unless given permission. Cause if the player plays on your account again, and again and again for short periods. Then that my friend is Account Sharing. But still i think Jagex would ban players who has let someone be on their account for a short while/one time.

 

 

 

I find the rule very disturbing: There is a huge difference between long terms where two players are sharing same account, and the other: were a player plays a others account rarely just to help the real owner of the account.

 

 

 

Now heres the thing you might think: Scamming, alot players try to trick others to give their details so they can go on the account and robb it. Then i am guessing your thinking "Your saying thats right SirHemen...". Ill say that, that's not what i mean.

 

 

 

The One time/Rare time a player goes on a other persons account to help the real owner: is and should be between two players who know eachother in real life. That's what i am saying is not "Account Sharing", cause both parts are not after scamming or playing each others. They are ONLY there to help the part out, and after that GET THEIR AS OUT of the account :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Question 2: Are you for or against Account Sharing?

 

 

 

As stated i am against it. But to certain grade. Anyhow i wanna end this by saying that Jagex should someone work a system out so that players who don't account share don't get banned for something that they haven't done. Cause it's easy to ban someone:

 

 

 

But you gotta think "Has this player who's based on Jagex "Account shared", shared his/her account for a good while or was it just one time..."

 

 

 

Question 3: You think Jagex should think about this or not?

 

 

 

That was all. Go ahead and discuss ;)

i dont care if people share there account. if they wont to they should ;)

i dont care if people share there account. if they wont to they should ;)

 

 

 

I agree about that, but sharing it with other players on Runescape is something i am against. But i agree on part where you share it with people you really know, but unfortunately that's against rules so i don't do that -.-

 

 

 

But then again, if Jagex allowed Account Sharing. I wouldn't advice anyone who i knew in game to do it. Cause you get scammed. So....not smart.

You have some good arguments, but Jagex thought of it from the getting more money perspective.

 

 

 

If you and your mate shares a member account, then, instead of having two paying members only one is a member. Same goes with trading items over from accounts, or buying and selling accounts, because Jagex doesn't get any money out of it. If you traded cash over to another account or sold yours, the receiver or customer wouldn't have had to play members for, say five months.

 

 

 

But on the other hand it could be a good thing, because if your friend tests members by account sharing they might like it and sign up themselves. But the account stealing possibility plays in the most in my opinion.

Personally, I don't really mind. It's just more fun I suppose, can't say I've tried it though.

 

 

 

I think Jagex hammer down on this offence too bad, though; rules are rules.

 

 

 

Jagex thought of it from the getting more money perspective.

 

What's new nowadays? :wall:

You have some good arguments, but Jagex thought of it from the getting more money perspective.

 

 

 

If you and your mate shares a member account, then, instead of having two paying members only one is a member. Same goes with trading items over from accounts, or buying and selling accounts, because Jagex doesn't get any money out of it. If you traded cash over to another account or sold yours, the receiver or customer wouldn't have had to play members for, say five months.

 

 

 

But on the other hand it could be a good thing, because if your friend tests members by account sharing they might like it and sign up themselves. But the account stealing possibility plays in the most in my opinion.

 

 

 

I understand what your saying about money perspective. But according to Jagex themself, they have the rule to protect people:

 

 

1. Why do we have this rule?

 

 

 

We have this rule for two reasons:

 

 

 

1. Firstly, many of the accounts people try to sell are actually accounts they have stolen, so, by buying the account you are helping them profit from their crime, and encouraging them to do it more!

 

 

 

2. Secondly, this rule is for your protection, as people who share accounts run the risk that the person using the account won't give it back, or that the person will break a game rule causing your account to be banned.

 

 

 

But i don't see how this rule is protecting, if Jagex bans you for letting someone help you with something for one time.

 

 

Cause: as they said themself it is to protect them from not losing your account. BUT BY BANNING YOU, JAGEX IS TAKING IT FROM YOU. So i don't see the difference.

Personally, I think it should be allowed but at your own risk.

 

 

 

Example: Your friend is at your house (or you're at his/hers) and you're playing RuneScape the other person will want to play too and not just watch, I don't see anything wrong with letting them use your account or you using theirs.

 

 

 

Another Example: Brothers, what if parents say you're only allowed 1 member account, obviously the other brother would get jealous?

Cause: as they said themself it is to protect them from not losing your account. BUT BY BANNING YOU, JAGEX IS TAKING IT FROM YOU. So i don't see the difference.

 

 

 

They formulated it in a bad way. They're just basically threatening you to not do so.

 

 

 

I'm sure that several rules have been enforce not for the reasons that Jagex has given, but for some other reasons which would benefit Jagex and their success with the game.

 

 

 

Jagex won't find out either if it's a one time account sharing, like a friend coming over.

Well it depends I guess. If they go on your account and train for you thats just sad and you should be banned. But if they realy can't have an account of their own I guess it's ok that they can get on and do something if you trust them IRL. But idk about it fully. Lets say you and a friend do a project for school your friend helped even though maybe he's in a different class. Personally I'd be mad if the other friend didn't mention he got helped and took the credit for the project that they both did. What I'm trying to say I saw in Rate-This someone said rate my account thatmy sister trained. I feel like well thats sad they are rating his sisters account.But all in all I think account sharing should be a banable offence but not be under extremely rare circumstances. But it's better for Jagex to just say no because a black and white rule can not be whined about over technicalities. So I guess i'm saying account sharing should be banable because usually 1 person does most of the work and why should someone else free load when they only have to work 1/2 as hard or less than you did for the same stats. I'm sure some of you say meh idc but what about if your in bh or fog or even cw and they kill you. They should be 1/2 or less their level and you shouldn't have died maybe even costing you dearly.

Personally, I think it should be allowed but at your own risk.

 

 

 

 

+1.

 

 

 

That's great rule. Heres the thing, why is it that Jagex has made "Stronghold of Security" if , we ever account share: They will ban us?

 

 

 

Then i tell you, what's point in it, if we can't make a choice on our own?

 

 

 

I mean they have made a Stronghold with questions and everything, and even made the rule to protect us. But when it comes to us doing a mistake and account share and loose items+account, they "Punish" us by baning.

 

 

 

Now as you said "3_Hit_U"...you should be able to share but at your own risk. Jagex should just support us by giving advices AND STATING "THAT IF YOU LOOSE YOUR ACCOUNT ITS YOUR OWNFAULT"

Im against this rule, i dont acc sharing, but my friend with his brother yes....

 

But who cares? Its only game no?

 

U taking all on ur own risk...

Well it depends I guess. If they go on your account and train for you thats just sad and you should be banned. But if they realy can't have an account of their own I guess it's ok that they can get on and do something if you trust them IRL. But idk about it fully. Lets say you and a friend do a project for school your friend helped even though maybe he's in a different class. Personally I'd be mad if the other friend didn't mention he got helped and took the credit for the project that...

 

 

 

When two players play same account, one do the hard work and other don't it's only a problem between them. Also if the person who does hard work: don't get the credit, then its only HIS FAULT: Cause he could make a account of his own. So it's up to the players them self to take the choice and make a account.

 

 

 

Im against this rule, i dont acc sharing, but my friend with his brother yes....

 

But who cares? Its only game no?

 

U taking all on ur own risk...

 

 

 

If you don't got any good arguments then it's not nessecary for you to post any comments :thumbdown: .

Personally, I think it should be allowed but at your own risk.

 

 

 

 

+1.

 

 

 

That's great rule. Heres the thing, why is it that Jagex has made "Stronghold of Security" if , we ever account share: They will ban us?

 

 

 

Then i tell you, what's point in it, if we can't make a choice on our own?

 

 

 

I mean they have made a Stronghold with questions and everything, and even made the rule to protect us. But when it comes to us doing a mistake and account share and loose items+account, they "Punish" us by baning.

 

 

 

Now as you said "3_Hit_U"...you should be able to share but at your own risk. Jagex should just support us by giving advices AND STATING "THAT IF YOU LOOSE YOUR ACCOUNT ITS YOUR OWNFAULT"

 

 

 

Because they will hear all the whiners and they will spam the forums with whining. Anyway the account is Jagex property so to speak so they can say whatever goes anyway. Frankly if they said go ahead account share most people will get scammed by all the people who fake make friends out there. Jagex can't ban all the people from the Forums for spamming "OMFG THEY STOLE MY ST00F OFF MY ACCOUNT!!@!@I WANT MY ST00F BACK JAGEX!!! I QUIT MEMBERS!!!" But if people say it and it's against the rules they get banned for account sharing and wellpeople tend to have more sence to say I broke this rule yata yata.

 

 

 

Well it depends I guess. If they go on your account and train for you thats just sad and you should be banned. But if they realy can't have an account of their own I guess it's ok that they can get on and do something if you trust them IRL. But idk about it fully. Lets say you and a friend do a project for school your friend helped even though maybe he's in a different class. Personally I'd be mad if the other friend didn't mention he got helped and took the credit for the project that...

 

 

 

When two players play same account, one do the hard work and other don't it's only a problem between them. Also if the person who does hard work: don't get the credit, then its only HIS FAULT: Cause he could make a account of his own. So it's up to the players them self to take the choice and make a account.

 

 

 

Maybe he can't make an account or something? Don't ask me how but maybe he can't so he uses his friends account to have some fun. Sure it's his fault but people are supposed to have manners and idc if it's over the internet you still need manners because noone likes some jerk who probably has no manners irl anyway.

Double posted....... :-#

Don't give me that "Account is Jagex property" thing, i know that well. Also, Jagex CAN Ban people who's spams about "I lost my account, JAGEX GIVE ME IT BACK!"

 

 

 

Cause i said before in earlier posts: Jagex can "STATE" that "If you account Share, it won't be Jagex problem if you do a mistake. It will be yours." Further more Jagex can help and give advices about not to do it....but that's all they should do.

 

 

 

But i came up with a idea ( But it's just a idea so...): The idea is that Jagex Automatically sents message to every player in Runescape...

 

 

 

This is the message:

 

 

 

"Do you "SirHemen" want "Account Sharing" Rule to apply for you or not?

 

 

 

If yes, you will be baned for account sharing if you break it.

 

 

 

If no, then it's totally your own responsibility to ensure your own safty for your account. So if you loose it, and spam the forums about it. We will ban your forum account.

 

 

 

Jagex"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Problem Solved?

 

 

 

 

Maybe he can't make an account or something? Don't ask me how but maybe he can't so he uses his friends account to have some fun. Sure it's his fault but people are supposed to have manners and idc if it's over the internet you still need manners because noone likes some jerk who probably has no manners irl anyway.

 

 

 

That he can't make a account, is his problem not Jagex or other players...

 

 

 

As for my manners, what have i said that has offended you?

they should allow you to do it at your own risk, if you wanna take the risk of a hacked/robbed account, JUST DO IT! it's your problem, not theirs.

 

 

 

i personally shared an account with 3 friends, we all placed stuff on it but also stuff keeped dissapearing, then we changed the pass so only me + 1 friend knew it, nothing happened till that friend told the pass to another friend and they just kept wasting stuff into bh so i changed the pass, i learned quite a bit from it lol #-o :lol:

I'm mostly account sharing in the long run because getting two people to train the account one after the other Double the playing time normally means double the exp and or money. Which is pretty cheap if you ask me.

 

 

 

And you risk losing the account itself to your "friends", if they suddenly got greedy.

 

 

 

But I haven't got a problem with people who try out their friends accounts once or twice just to get the feel of it.

I helped a friend with a quest,it was at his home,in the same room

I used to help a friend with Puzzle clues, but now that friend is pretty good on them : Other than that, there was nothing more.

Question 1: Would you say that someone you know in real life, goes on your account for "ONE TIME", to help you out be "Account Sharing"?

 

 

 

Yes. Jagex has a log of everyones IP when they log in. If the ip were to say "last logged in from nz.wireless.com" and you're from Canada, something might be up as someone has been on your account, either for fun or to mess with you, but highly unlikely for the latter due to the new rules. Jagex has reason to ban your account for Account Sharing/Trading if your IP's don't match on what Jagex has logged. So, if ANYONE at ANYTIME but you accesses your account, that IS account sharing. This does not count if you play Runescape on multiple computers, (ie: Laptop, Desktop, Library, School Computer, etc) as YOU were in control of the account at the time.

 

 

 

Question 2: Are you for or against Account Sharing?

 

 

 

I'm against, due to my status in the game. My reason is in the above question.

 

 

 

Question 3: You think Jagex should think about this or not?

 

 

 

I already Mentioned they log your IP address on login. If they detect any foul play from another IP and it's not you, they have a very good reason to bring out the ban stick. It's not Jagex who should think about this issue, it's the PLAYER. Any action taken against the account is up to the player to Appeal. Jagex is only there to make sure we're playing fair and safe without harming other users.

i'm against the rule although i have a personal stake in it because one of my two offences which has got me into the Red zone( :( ) is account sharing. Basically my friend came over and while i went to go make lunch he asked if he could play on my runescape account, i just said yeah continue what i was doing( he knows how to play he has his own account). He saw someone at fire giants who he thought was on his friends list so he said hey and they started talking. The guy asked who he was obviously and he said that " i am (account name) but i am just on my mates account really quickly cos hes downstairs". This "friend" reported my account and i got like 5 black marks, i appealed but i got: " we have conclusive evidence that you were in control of your account at the time of the offence", WTF that makes no sense what so ever, i mean auto replies is one thing but pick one that DOESN'T absolve me, it clearly says i was in control, that was my defence, yet that somehow proves i am guilty.

 

 

 

Anyway i'm against account sharing all the time, but if a friend just ones to play a few times then i think it's ok. Just check the IP, my IP hadn't changed so it was obviously at my house.

I am in the middle with this argument. With all the people that play, its nearly impossible to say that nobody shares accounts. So Jagex making this rule hurts the honest player who does not want to break the rules. To be honest, if I had a brother I would absolutly would have shared an account with him. Unfortunately, I do not.

I'm pretty much indifferent about this rule. If I find out someone is account sharing I couldn't care less. And I don't see any harm if say, my friend comes over while I'm playing a mini-game and he asks me if he can try it out while I sit next to him and tell him how it's played.

 

I don't know about you but I'm not too fond about the IP tracker. Sure, it could be useful to find out if someone else has been on your account without your knowledge, but consider the following:

 

I am going to be attending university next semester, so I'll be far away from my home and be using a different computer with a different IP. Does that mean that when Jagex compares the IP logs from my account I should be banned?

I really wouldn't care if an account has more than one user. To me online games are fun, and if someone else has fun building an account with their friends, then that's just fine. Actually, that sounds pretty cool.

 

 

 

If they go around bragging that they own everyone because they can train 24/7, then that really annoys me.

 

 

 

I wouldn't rat out somebody for that either if they're nice.

 

 

 

EDIT - The only way you would probably get scammed is if you share with someone you don't know in real life. If I shared an account with a friend and they wrecked the account on purpose, I'd go and stomp them a new one, and they would know it.

It used to be a problem because players who shared were constantly getting "hacked" or claiming to be hacked when actually the person or people they shared with took their items. Nowadays, well I guess they could drop all your items, ouch.

 

 

 

I don't really care about it though and letting someone get on your char once or twice is technically sharing but it's so minor.