jaderman10 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Ok, I have a few questions for my fellow tif users which I hope you can answer. 1. How much would 68 summoning cost from 52 summoning? 2. At my combat stats could i efficiently kill waterfiends for crimsons using a zamorakian spear? 3. About how long would the charm collections take? 4. What familiars should i make? (not using greens, and I know for blues) Thanks Played runescape for about 2 years!I love SSBB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Just do slay: gives you charms; gives you acces to better charmdroppers (not as good as fiends; but way easier to kill) and gives you nice drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitstinks Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 It costs a lot around 3m-4m, but if u make the right monsters, it might take around 2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_one Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 umm...how manycrimsons does it take...put it in a calc. if you do that i can give you the time and the cost but not knowing the amount of charms i cant help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderman10 Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 ok, I used tip.it calculator, and using crimsons only it would take me 1283 bloated leeches to get to 64, when i can make stranger plants. I'll be trading back my pouches for shards every 200 pouches. At 64 I will use my blues on karamthulus, and start making terrorbird pouches. Using trade back, I get 105k shards overall from 150k used. from 64 to 68 I'll use 89600 shards, which will leave me with around 15k shards. I need 700 stranger plants overall costing an additional 700k from the seconds. this is 4.4 mil using crimsons only. If I use all my blues and golds, i could lower (maybe) the price to around 4 mil. These calculations aren't accurate, because i won't use all crimsons, but my rough estimate Your thoughts please. Played runescape for about 2 years!I love SSBB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_one Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 well if it takes 1.3k leach pouches that would be about 1m in all. here is how you do it. buy raw beef from the shop in canafris(sp?) its like 7gp each. buy the shards to make the pouches make the pouches using whatever method then in order for this to work you have to then alch your pouches and you will only have lost ~1m-1.2m as for time collecting at waterfiends you will get arounf 30-50 crims an hour at your levels so like 25-30 hours if my math is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderman10 Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 OK, thanks. you really make most of your money back from alching? Also, that only gets me to 64 summoning. That's a lot of time for waterfiend killing. I may do that for a while, then train slayer and camp dusties. Thanks again. Played runescape for about 2 years!I love SSBB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzo04 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 You will struggle with Waterfiends at your level. You could kill them, but not get many charms per trip. [saradomin hilt - 3] [Armadyl hilt - 1] [ Bandos hilt - 3][ Abyssal whip - 88] [ Dark bow - 7] [ Dragon boots - 100+] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwor Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 It's funny, I just started killing waterfiends with a Zamorakian spear yesterday, and my melee stats are really similar to yours. I'm using 16 monkfish, 3 four dose prayer pots, and a super attack and strength pot every trip, and I've been getting 20-25 crimsons per trip. It's not incredibly fast, but it's way cheaper than bursting. I'd rather have the melee exp than magic exp anyway. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I never tried killing them at a lower level, what with summoning not existing yet and all, so I wouldn't know, but from what I've been told you would not be able to kill them very efficiently. Nwor says that you can do it though :thumbsup: Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smobo Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I would suggest making spirit kyaat pouches over karmathulus, because you can sell them for profit even if you buy the fur. So unless you plan on using the karmathulus i go with kyaat, or just save them till your lv 43983 and make titans. Unless you're despirite to get high summoning as fast as possible, just slay for your charms. You can't really take full advantage of waterfiends unless you're already 68 sum for bunyip. Got his first skill cape April 7th 2009, at lv 121+12 cb and 2000 total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwor Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [hide=][/hide] The empty inventory space is where there used to be a games necklace, I always put that in the drop box. I'm averaging a little less than a charm a minute, about 40-50 crimsons an hour. Would dust devils be faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildxYak Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Or Mosquitos all the way, 1 shard per pouch puts it at about 300k on shards I think. The 2nd is a proboscis. It may seem stupid saying it but just so you know and the option is there lol. 99: Agility 28/12/14|Thieving 20/03/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderman10 Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Thanks for your help everyone. I think I will do some waterfiends until 57 summoning, then go to slayer for charms. This has helped a lot tif Played runescape for about 2 years!I love SSBB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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