August 9, 200817 yr America needs a communistic party, I think it would be cool to have a communistic dictator, not some Bush jr or a democrat. NO Your name is "bet you fail", and you're starting a business with your mom? I'm not even going to touch that.....
August 9, 200817 yr Republicans and Democrats, two right wing Parties like trying to choose between Pepsi and Coke,
August 9, 200817 yr Republicans and Democrats, two right wing Parties like trying to choose between Pepsi and Coke, Do you understand the American political system at all? Democrats and Republicans are the exact opposite (fore the most part). Republicans are right-wing and conservative, whereas Democrats are left-wing and liberal. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream
August 9, 200817 yr Republicans and Democrats, two right wing Parties like trying to choose between Pepsi and Coke, Do you understand the American political system at all? Democrats and Republicans are the exact opposite (fore the most part). Republicans are right-wing and conservative, whereas Democrats are left-wing and liberal. What proper Left wing or American Left Wing, because the two our not the same Democrats are 10 steps to the right of the Conservative party in the U.k , (according to Ian Collins)
August 9, 200817 yr Republicans and Democrats, two right wing Parties like trying to choose between Pepsi and Coke, Do you understand the American political system at all? Democrats and Republicans are the exact opposite (fore the most part). Republicans are right-wing and conservative, whereas Democrats are left-wing and liberal. No, I would agree with him. Most of the Democratic Party are right wingers/Centrists. Obama is a centrist in my eyes...leaning to the right.
August 9, 200817 yr Republicans and Democrats, two right wing Parties like trying to choose between Pepsi and Coke, Do you understand the American political system at all? Democrats and Republicans are the exact opposite (fore the most part). Republicans are right-wing and conservative, whereas Democrats are left-wing and liberal. No, I would agree with him. Most of the Democratic Party are right wingers/Centrists. Obama is a centrist in my eyes...leaning to the right. Democrats' official stances are typically liberal and left-wing. I somewhat agree with Obama being a centrist, but as I see it he leans far more to the left than the right. A few exceptions. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream
August 9, 200817 yr the Labour Party are the party of the workers, You serious? Yes they are ( or used to be, however the Current New labour has seemed to have forgotten that) New Labour :thumbdown: Old Labour :thumbup:
August 9, 200817 yr the Labour Party are the party of the workers, You serious? Yes they are ( or used to be, however the Current New labour has seemed to have forgotten that) New Labour :thumbdown: Old Labour :thumbup: New Labour can hardly be described as "socialist".
August 9, 200817 yr Obviously this is different in the US which only has a two-party system (effectively). In which case, I cannot understand why anyone would vote someone other than Democrat or Republican. No other party will get anywhere in US politics - it's a vote for nothing. With that kind of attitude nothing will change. With virtually no support the so called smaller parties (imo they are virtually unexistant) can't even grow and challenge the main parties. Voting for them is a vote for better future, even though it may not be seen in the next few elections. So your solution to party loyalty is to become loyal to another party that exists outside of the main contenders instead? OK... Personally, I'm of the belief there should be three parties. One on the left, one on the right, and one in the middle to provide a sort of buffer to keep people involved in the political process while they're disillusioned. Then people will actually vote on what they believe in, not whoever's promised to lower their taxes most. All that Respect and the SNP have done in this country is destroy Labour's reputation. They've weakened the left wing, and the Tories are profiting. That doesn't strike me as voting for a better future - it actually strikes me as voting for the exact opposite future you want. That would be making the false assumption there was a "united left wing view" (and "united centre view" + "united right wing view"), whatever that means. As for the last paragraph, the reason why the SNP is stronger in Scotland and the Tories are stronger in England (while Labour is weaker across the whole UK) is because of people being unhappy with the government, and turning to them parties (SNP in Scotland, Tories in England) as the best chance to beat Labour in the next election.
August 9, 200817 yr I always consider the nominees first regardless of wat party they r in. i am usually a republican because i favor their views and democrats r more conservative and -.-
August 9, 200817 yr Heavy Republican, I hate democrats. Unfortunately America is becoming a country that can be pushed around by little countries like Iraq because the unpatriotic liberals want to end the war, seriously all the unpatriotic Bush haters should move to Canada. That's a lot of ignorance in just 2 sentences. Internet Marketing For Newbies
August 10, 200817 yr New Labour can hardly be described as "socialist". I'm glad we agree, as I don't recall saying New Labour were socialist. As for the Democrats... they're right wing. In a country as vehemently patriotic and capitalist as America, perhaps they're left wing; but I assure you, they are right wing in the context of the rest of the world. Gun control laws, as opposed to a total ban, is the sort of stuff the Tories would come up with over here, and they sure as hell ain't left. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules |
August 10, 200817 yr Clegg moves the Liberal Democrats to the right, in order to pick up votes from disillusioned members of the Labour party who would never vote Tory. However it seems like a rather stupid decision to me, a party can not last on borrowed support. They should have shifted more towards the socialist left, the area that remains practically a wasteland. Littered with the bones of Atlee and his cabinet may I add! I think one problem may be the fact that many of Nick Clegg's staff are absolute prats. Edit: I thougt you were talking about the Liberal Democrats. My mistake. Yes, the Democratic Party if superimposed onto Britain would without a doubt be more Tory than the Tories. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
August 10, 200817 yr New Labour can hardly be described as "socialist". I'm glad we agree, as I don't recall saying New Labour were socialist. As for the Democrats... they're right wing. In a country as vehemently patriotic and capitalist as America, perhaps they're left wing; but I assure you, they are right wing in the context of the rest of the world. Gun control laws, as opposed to a total ban, is the sort of stuff the Tories would come up with over here, and they sure as hell ain't left. Oh my god, I love you so much lol. :thumbsup:
August 16, 200817 yr I support whichever seems better and more along my views. If a candidate is homophobic, a war-monger, and forces religion on someone and/or is intolerant towards any religion, they aren't likely to get my vote. So in this election, I would choose Democrat. I think it's stupid as hell to be loyal to any particular party. Things change over time. I am liberal in thought if that was what you were asking. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on.
August 16, 200817 yr So in the rest of the world, Democrats basically are conservative? So that means they are homophobic as the Republicans in the US are conservative and homophobic? The politics of the UK and rest of the world has kind of thrown me off. I know the Democrats in the US are liberals and are generally more towards social equality and the like, at least in my country. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on.
August 16, 200817 yr The rest of the world reverses things. There, the "left" is conservative and the "right" is liberal, instead of the other way around. Personally, I don't affiliate myself with any one political party, but I generally lean towards the republicans. While I don't agree with their gay rights or abortion rights points, I like their policies on lowering taxes and cutting generally useless socialist programs, spending more money on science and the military and opposing gun control.
August 16, 200817 yr Personally, I don't affiliate myself with any one political party, but I generally lean towards the republicans. While I don't agree with their gay rights or abortion rights points, I like their policies on lowering taxes and cutting generally useless socialist programs, spending more money on science and the military and opposing gun control. Sorry but coming from an American perspective, it's just so odd that those words are used so close together... It'll be a cold day in hell before the Republican party in the United States will even support social equality. Most Republicans in my country are ignorant and spurt out hate speech and say things that aren't true, such as the homosexuals trying to take over the world and spreading AIDS like wildfire bullcrap that FOX talks about a lot or some random legislator in a conservative state ranting on about homosexuals. It would be a good laugh if it weren't so mean. Anyway I've noticed that the UK seems to be more liberal than the United States. They are so much more ahead socially and economically. You have gay rights in that country. I've heard that some people were successful in helping schools pass zero-tolerance on homophobia. The United States should swallow their pride and actually emulate the UK, which is a better country in my opinion. The only problem that I have with America is their epidemic of ignorance and bigotry, their poor economy, and their pride. It will be their downfall if they don't change and change soon. As for me, I'll be gone before that happens. If I see the US won't improve, I'll just save up money and start a new life in the UK. EDIT: I completely misread Snipersas' posts. Feel free to quote this post and laugh at me. :oops: SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on.
August 16, 200817 yr The rest of the world reverses things. There, the "left" is conservative and the "right" is liberal, instead of the other way around. Um, what are you talking about? That is completely false. Their left is still liberal, it's just that American politics are stuck on the right side, that our Democrats are a conservative party... See? Generally, Democrats are still very conservative on the world-wide spectrum. Republicans, on the other hand, are flat out right-side radicals. A liberal in America would propose gun-control, whereas a liberal in say, the UK, would propose gun-BANS.
August 16, 200817 yr The rest of the world reverses things. There, the "left" is conservative and the "right" is liberal, instead of the other way around. I'd have to disagree... In all parts of the world, "leftist" policy means non-conservative and progressive, 'right-wing' is conservative and sometimes backwards, mostly favouring the wealthier population. That doesn't mean all leftist parties are good and all rightwing parties are bad. In some countries, leftist parties don't get anything done. In many nordic countries, right wing coalition parties have wide popular support despite their policies being largely based on pure capitalism/favouring wealthy people and corporations
August 16, 200817 yr I'd have to disagree... In all parts of the world, "leftist" policy means non-conservative and progressive, 'right-wing' is conservative and sometimes backwards, mostly favouring the wealthier population. That doesn't mean all leftist parties are good and all rightwing parties are bad. In some countries, leftist parties don't get anything done. In many nordic countries, right wing coalition parties have wide popular support despite their policies being largely based on pure capitalism/favouring wealthy people and corporations Who are you disagreeing with? Because what you just said is exactly what I said :? The thing is, right-wing parties in Nordic countries are still more liberal than our democrats lol; the parties gaining more support there are moderates/centrists.
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