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Can i solo mage dks w/o guthans? *new* is CoG worth it?

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title. click my name on the left for stats. i would use war tortises and bunyips, and i have sgs. can i get by w/o guthans, or will i use too much brew? also, is void mace worth it? or should i use slay dart or fire wave? (note that i only have about a mill to spend on supplies atm, but i can make my own sup restores from seeds.)

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You could probably be ok...but maging at dks is THE best use of guthans in my personal opinion. I'd advise that you get guthans. I think that the set is under 4m now :shock: I don't use brews at all when I go(only went once and don't plan on going again) and don't pray. As long as you dont mess up, you could just heal off the spins and stay down there until you run out of antiposions, casts or your armor breaks.

 

 

 

Get the mace.

Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 Seercull
Dragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,Halberd
GWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm

Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots  + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate

Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow
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You could even if you didn't have the sgs. Fruit bats allow me to not even have to use my guthan's when I dk. And yes, the mace is definitely worth it. (Unless you die with it and have to get it over again #-o )

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so, are fruit bats really better than bunyips at DKS? has anyone used both?

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so, are fruit bats really better than bunyips at DKS? has anyone used both?

 

Fruit bats are annoying to use, but obviously they heal alot more HP. It costs alot more too.

 

 

 

While fruit bats are more annoying to use at dks than a bunyip, you don't need to use guthan's allowing you to use the time normally spent in spawns to summon fruit instead of heal off the spynlps or however you say it. You could also use it to summon fruit whilst you are killing rex without wasting an attack, allowing you to gain food even when you are attacking rex. I use about 200-300 scrolls a trip usually which costs about 32-48k I don't see that as too much especially since the cost of runes when you are using CoG is immense.

 

 

 

And yes, I have used both.

I solo rex with veracs and bunyip and 4-6 brews lasts me like a hour. So a fruit bat + SGS I'd imagine you'd only need a few brews for safety reasons.

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What about a unicorn people? I've went there with full veracs and unicorn and I must say, I was dissapointed. I still needed to brew every now and then... (even when praying!)

What about a unicorn people? I've went there with full veracs and unicorn and I must say, I was dissapointed. I still needed to brew every now and then... (even when praying!)

 

 

 

I'm guessing that you had terrible luck, because I went with guthans and ponies and I never had to use guthans or pray until I ran out of antipoisons...I seriously doubt that that extra bit of range defense(and less magic) made that much of a difference.

Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 Seercull
Dragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,Halberd
GWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm

Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots  + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate

Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow
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Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10

Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138
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What about a unicorn people? I've went there with full veracs and unicorn and I must say, I was dissapointed. I still needed to brew every now and then... (even when praying!)

 

 

 

I'm guessing that you had terrible luck, because I went with guthans and ponies and I never had to use guthans or pray until I ran out of antipoisons...I seriously doubt that that extra bit of range defense(and less magic) made that much of a difference.

 

Hmm, I'll try again next time, hopefully with better results. Although, speaking of luck, 1 zerker and 1 axe solo isnt too bad, is it \'

 

 

 

Btw, which shield do you use?

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i plan on using d sq, best def (for the price) and lowest negative cash bonuses. also, how much would it cost to use claws of guthix? is it really worth it over fire wave/slayer dart? also, how much brew should i take? i plan on using the bunyip for my 1st trip to see how i do.

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Killerwatt is responsible for the Arctic Monkeys sig.

Pat_61 did the B-2 sig and the raptor sig.[/hide]

I take an unholy book for the mage bonus, a defensive shield would probably be more useful, though.

Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 Seercull
Dragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,Halberd
GWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm

Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots  + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate

Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow
[spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138
Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10

Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138
Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14
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well, id still like to know if claws of guthix is worth it over other spells cost wise.

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well, id still like to know if claws of guthix is worth it over other spells cost wise.

 

I dont think its really worth it. However, it's good if you are a bit impatient and want as many kills as fast as possible. But I use it anyways :D

Yip is great at Dk's...you dont need to keep swaping staff/spear and you can wear veracs (more prayer bonus) <3:

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Claws of Guthix is definitly worth it. Without guthans and only using bunyips instead of titans you will have shorter trips. During those short trips you will want fast kills to compensate, to do this claws is great.

Yip is great at Dk's...you dont need to keep swaping staff/spear and you can wear veracs (more prayer bonus) <3:

 

 

 

why cant you wear verac without a bunyip? I know what you'll say: you'll need the guthan too much then. But trust me, with verac and yip, you'll still need to brew and pray too.

Yip is great at Dk's...you dont need to keep swaping staff/spear and you can wear veracs (more prayer bonus) <3:

 

 

 

why cant you wear verac without a bunyip? I know what you'll say: you'll need the guthan too much then. But trust me, with verac and yip, you'll still need to brew and pray too.

 

 

 

Guthans is definitly recommended if you want to do a decent trip, none of this 1 hour trip bs. With guthans and bunyips you should be able to do 3 hour trips once you get used to healing and potting at the right times. Once you get to titans then it is a little bit different because they heal a lot more (12 hp per minute vs 8 for bunyip which adds up).

Yip is great at Dk's...you dont need to keep swaping staff/spear and you can wear veracs (more prayer bonus) <3:

 

 

 

why cant you wear verac without a bunyip? I know what you'll say: you'll need the guthan too much then. But trust me, with verac and yip, you'll still need to brew and pray too.

 

 

 

Guthans is definitly recommended if you want to do a decent trip, none of this 1 hour trip bs. With guthans and bunyips you should be able to do 3 hour trips once you get used to healing and potting at the right times. Once you get to titans then it is a little bit different because they heal a lot more (12 hp per minute vs 8 for bunyip which adds up).

 

 

 

That's what I thought. I went verac and unicorn, and I still had to leave cause of healing issues. With guthan and SGS, I think I should be able to stay down there forever. Without prayer.

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