Range Haters United!

[howbadisbad]

So your reaction is too slow to compete in a populated area, or your level isn't high enough to one-click monsters, and you're not rich enough to train range because you're probably f2p?

 

 

 

Thread = epic fail.

 

 

 

go and one click a black dragon without mage noobcake.

 

 

 

 

 

i also saw someone posted range constantly maxes and this is true because range training weapons (bronze knives, iron arrows) have a much lower hit than melee weapons.

 

 

 

i can max about a 13 in void with iron arrows at 81 range yet my brother can hit 19 with his whip at 66 str.

 

a MSB can max around 25 but a whip can max around 50 (im totaly not hinting at anything)

 

 

 

if melee could constantly max 50's that would be seen as "overpowered" but if it could max 25 the chances of hiting max should be twice as much as hitting 50 with a whip.

 

 

 

also think about your arrows break so if you went training with rune arrows you would spend 1.5mil in lost arrows pretty quick :wall:

[compfreak847]

So your reaction is too slow to compete in a populated area, or your level isn't high enough to one-click monsters, and you're not rich enough to train range because you're probably f2p?

 

 

 

Thread = epic fail.

 

 

 

go and one click a black dragon without mage noobcake.

Way to miss the point...

 

 

 

 

 

i also saw someone posted range constantly maxes and this is true because range training weapons (bronze knives, iron arrows) have a much lower hit than melee weapons.

 

 

 

i can max about a 13 in void with iron arrows at 81 range yet my brother can hit 19 with his whip at 66 str.

 

a MSB can max around 25 but a whip can max around 50 (im totaly not hinting at anything)

 

 

 

if melee could constantly max 50's that would be seen as "overpowered" but if it could max 25 the chances of hiting max should be twice as much as hitting 50 with a whip.

 

 

 

also think about your arrows break so if you went training with rune arrows you would spend 1.5mil in lost arrows pretty quick :wall:

Mkay, here we go. First of all, let's take a look at some real weapons. My max with adamant bolts is 45, give or take, and 60 with dragon bolts. What was that about whip, again? My max with dark bow (non spec) is 64, 96 with special. My max with chinchompas is 207 (not that it counts). Yet my max with a bronze dagger is only 18! Melee is underpoweed!!!! Comparing apples to oranges won't do you any good -.-

[Faerasachi]

Sorry, but the only thing I agree with you is the way a ranger's fast attack rate can tag 2 monsters at once.

 

 

 

But don't worry about that ^.^ It doesn't make them kill monsters any faster. It just means they have to click 100 times more just to kill 2 monsters at once.

 

And you can collect their arrows and annoy them out of your world, because they're being jerks :P.

[wesley2k8]

i have a range pure at 89 range so i dont really agree with everything but some rangers are not very nice people and its so annoying when they take 2 monsters at a time

[eias]

I kind of hate range because i am 86 Range right now and i can only pull of 15 hits max with adamant arrows with the prayer on f2p,that's my only rant,otherwise it's good and handy,i somewhat think that the rapid makes up for the low hit,and it's faster than rune scimitar and have good armor penetration at the average levels of defense so i think it's fine,anyway we know how much ranged is powerful for P2p,the dark bow is very strong,and so is Rune crossbow,but it's pricey to train.

[neanderthol]

is range underpowered or is melee overpowered ;)

[compfreak847]

is range underpowered or is melee overpowered ;)

 

Neither, melee is overpowered and range is VERY overpowered. Range > melee at the same combat levels.

[Flamewhisker]

Someone who agrees with me!!! Dang i hate range!!!!

 

 

 

To me its just expensive and way too time consumining!!!

 

 

 

My range lvl would literally still be level 1 if it wasn't for cluescrolls (a lvl 2 needed lvl 20, and a lvl 3 needed lvl 50 >.<)

 

 

 

I hate in the taverly doungon at the blue dragons the always stand in the safe spots and get the dragons first (even when i'm using whip and i'm standing right next to them) Some times i'll even hit them first but then i'll stop because the ranger has them but the dragon is still attacking me for a few hits! totally unfair -.- I have even had a few expirences where they would start complaining to me that i stole their kill when i attacked a dragon first when they had stole mine tons of times before that. (this is exactcly why i go train on red dragons now- no rangers ftw)

 

 

 

and by my stats you can prob tell i like mage (its my highest lvl in xp) and i'm good with mage because 1st off i can make my own runes, 2nd off its easier to understand!

[Gigajie]

go poop your pants! range 0wnz!

[ski1lz0wner]

i hate players that get full void and darkbow stand around with pray melee on and spec and run into a safezone i mean wtf is the point if you dont want to get hit back dont pk

[Cheefoo]

go poop your pants! range 0wnz!

 

 

 

I'm going to be as blunt as possible.

 

 

 

YOU'RE OBNOXIOUS!

[kudos6969]

i hate range because a whip hits same as runite bow with rune bolts yet its twice the speed to attack, and the only way to survive as a ranger using these really slow bolts (even on rapid) is to wear halve the armor the guy hitting you with whip is wearing. Cept all his armor benefits him wheather it be increased str bonus or attack bonus or def against the pitifull range.

[compfreak847]

i hate range because a whip hits same as runite bow with rune bolts yet its twice the speed to attack, and the only way to survive as a ranger using these really slow bolts (even on rapid) is to wear halve the armor the guy hitting you with whip is wearing. Cept all his armor benefits him wheather it be increased str bonus or attack bonus or def against the pitifull range.

 

99 range - 74 attack, 74 strength. Assuming both players have 70 defence, who do you think is going to win? Hint: The meleer has a max hit of around 33, assuming he super sets and is able to use piety (although the ranger can get his +15% range at a much lower prayer level; if we include 44 vs. 70 prayer, the meleer has to have stats of 70 attack, 68 strength). Ever fought a 99 range tank? I have, and with virtually maxed melee stats it's a very close fight without specials. 99 range vs. 70 attack\68 strength is a joke. Did I mention that the range weapon (rune crossbow) costs 10k to whip's 1.4m? What about the d hide body vs. torag's? Oh, and the ranger hits 55 non spec, 96 with spec. The meleer hits 30 with a regular whip hit, 47 with an armadyl godsword (60m; slower then crossbow). Oh, wait: he can't even wield that godsword! Well, if we go up to 75 attack, our strength drops to 62 - giving us a max of 27 regular, 43 with Armadyl Godsword. So range maxes 60 non spec, melee 27 - and the ranger will hit FAR more often then the meleer. 99 range is accurate; 75 attack is not. The meleer might as well be speccing continuously with his 60m+ KO weapon; it doesn't matter, he will max a 43 and be far out hit by the faster, more accurate, much harder hitting range.

 

 

 

Oh, and did I mention that melee is the skill that's supposed to beat range?

[howbadisbad]

i hate range because a whip hits same as runite bow with rune bolts yet its twice the speed to attack, and the only way to survive as a ranger using these really slow bolts (even on rapid) is to wear halve the armor the guy hitting you with whip is wearing. Cept all his armor benefits him wheather it be increased str bonus or attack bonus or def against the pitifull range.

 

99 range - 74 attack, 74 strength. Assuming both players have 70 defence, who do you think is going to win? Hint: The meleer has a max hit of around 33, assuming he super sets and is able to use piety (although the ranger can get his +15% range at a much lower prayer level; if we include 44 vs. 70 prayer, the meleer has to have stats of 70 attack, 68 strength). Ever fought a 99 range tank? I have, and with virtually maxed melee stats it's a very close fight without specials. 99 range vs. 70 attack\68 strength is a joke. Did I mention that the range weapon (rune crossbow) costs 10k to whip's 1.4m? What about the d hide body vs. torag's? Oh, and the ranger hits 55 non spec, 96 with spec. The meleer hits 30 with a regular whip hit, 47 with an armadyl godsword (60m; slower then crossbow). Oh, wait: he can't even wield that godsword! Well, if we go up to 75 attack, our strength drops to 62 - giving us a max of 27 regular, 43 with Armadyl Godsword. So range maxes 60 non spec, melee 27 - and the ranger will hit FAR more often then the meleer. 99 range is accurate; 75 attack is not. The meleer might as well be speccing continuously with his 60m+ KO weapon; it doesn't matter, he will max a 43 and be far out hit by the faster, more accurate, much harder hitting range.

 

 

 

Oh, and did I mention that melee is the skill that's supposed to beat range?

 

melee grows you cb lvls faster but if you are 70 atk and 99 str with dds...

 

 

 

you will rape the ranger because boy do dds own range armour like no other #-o

 

 

 

99str > 99 range with a dds spec =o

[compfreak847]

i hate range because a whip hits same as runite bow with rune bolts yet its twice the speed to attack, and the only way to survive as a ranger using these really slow bolts (even on rapid) is to wear halve the armor the guy hitting you with whip is wearing. Cept all his armor benefits him wheather it be increased str bonus or attack bonus or def against the pitifull range.

 

99 range - 74 attack, 74 strength. Assuming both players have 70 defence, who do you think is going to win? Hint: The meleer has a max hit of around 33, assuming he super sets and is able to use piety (although the ranger can get his +15% range at a much lower prayer level; if we include 44 vs. 70 prayer, the meleer has to have stats of 70 attack, 68 strength). Ever fought a 99 range tank? I have, and with virtually maxed melee stats it's a very close fight without specials. 99 range vs. 70 attack\68 strength is a joke. Did I mention that the range weapon (rune crossbow) costs 10k to whip's 1.4m? What about the d hide body vs. torag's? Oh, and the ranger hits 55 non spec, 96 with spec. The meleer hits 30 with a regular whip hit, 47 with an armadyl godsword (60m; slower then crossbow). Oh, wait: he can't even wield that godsword! Well, if we go up to 75 attack, our strength drops to 62 - giving us a max of 27 regular, 43 with Armadyl Godsword. So range maxes 60 non spec, melee 27 - and the ranger will hit FAR more often then the meleer. 99 range is accurate; 75 attack is not. The meleer might as well be speccing continuously with his 60m+ KO weapon; it doesn't matter, he will max a 43 and be far out hit by the faster, more accurate, much harder hitting range.

 

 

 

Oh, and did I mention that melee is the skill that's supposed to beat range?

 

melee grows you cb lvls faster but if you are 70 atk and 99 str with dds...

 

 

 

you will rape the ranger because boy do dds own range armour like no other #-o

 

 

 

99str > 99 range with a dds spec =o

 

My personal range outfit (swap accumulator for fire cape if you need to pick up arrows):

 

 

I've got +318 slash, significantly higher then veracs - plus a 112 magic defence boost. Did I mention that 99 strength requires 38 attack to match 99 range's combat level? Good luck hitting on me with that addy scimitar. To give us a dd++ with 60 attack, our strength level drops to 77. Your 60 attack isn't even going to touch my +318 slash defence, and if it did your 77 strength would make your hits look pathetic - even more so with your regular weapon, dragon scimmy, which would be maxing in the mid 20s. In the mean time, I'm hitting in the upper 50s without specials, and 96 with my dark bow. Bye bye, ranger... With my 97 range, I'm a fair match for someone with combat stats in the upper 90s.

[howbadisbad]

and a pure could have the same cb as a 99 range 75 def range tank (90 hp)

 

 

 

the pure would have 99 hp 99 atk 99 str 99 mage

 

 

 

hmmm i would actually like to see what dds would do to a ranger with this setup

 

(no protection prayers) i hate prayer noobs lol

 

 

 

(omfg mismic barrage!) i dont think you will win after that :twss:

[compfreak847]

and a pure could have the same cb as a 99 range 75 def range tank (90 hp)

 

 

 

the pure would have 99 hp 99 atk 99 str 99 mage

 

 

 

hmmm i would actually like to see what dds would do to a ranger with this setup

 

(no protection prayers) i hate prayer noobs lol

 

 

 

(omfg mismic barrage!) i dont think you will win after that :twss:

 

Ever seen what 99 range does to 1 defence? Let me put it this way: the meleer might get a chance to empty out his specs on the ranger's torags, even though they probably won't work, but after that the ranger would make the fight look like a joke. 99 range can easily hit 1 defence faster then you can eat.

[howbadisbad]

exept in pvp if you did wear that stuff you would be piled so fast it would make your head spin lol.

 

 

 

melee can have great stats with cheap armour (rune and defender)

 

and range has d hide

 

 

 

the dds would rip you to shreads :|

 

 

 

that outfit is for duel arena only lol =D>

[howbadisbad]

its awsome how we are always arguing with ea other :twss:

[compfreak847]

exept in pvp if you did wear that stuff you would be piled so fast it would make your head spin lol.

 

 

 

melee can have great stats with cheap armour (rune and defender)

 

and range has d hide

 

 

 

the dds would rip you to shreads :|

 

 

 

that outfit is for duel arena only lol =D>

 

So is your outfit of veracs and dragonfire shield. Ahrims top is only 235k, bottom can be swapped for mystic for cheap people, with torag's\nezinot helm and rune kite for shield. A defender is a major loss; it can take a very long time for each one, and no matter how rich you are they can't be bought.

[howbadisbad]

tell me where you train range :shock:

[compfreak847]

tell me where you train range :shock:

 

Who?

[zwyrm]

There is nothing wrong with the skill itself, but training it is a pain in the a55 :roll:

 

The xp goes SO slow o.O

 

 

 

And i totally agree with you on the thing where people attack two things at the same time

 

in a non multi-combat area :evil:

 

I mean...if you really want to annoy someone just call them ''noob'' or something. Stop taking

 

all the monsters to yourself!

[compfreak847]

There is nothing wrong with the skill itself, but training it is a pain in the a55 :roll:

 

The xp goes SO slow o.O

 

 

 

And i totally agree with you on the thing where people attack two things at the same time

 

in a non multi-combat area :evil:

 

I mean...if you really want to annoy someone just call them ''noob'' or something. Stop taking

 

all the monsters to yourself!

 

If you do avansies\chinchompas, range is 160k XP\hour. Free. Along with crazy HP XP. 99 melee requires 2 99s, and the fastest training is 110k per hour. Therfore, range = 160k XP\hour, melee = 55k XP\hour. Range is 3 times as fast to train as melee.

[howbadisbad]

tell me where you train range :shock:

 

Who?

 

you. #-o