Remembance Day

[Randox]

Foreword: I am a Canadian. To the best of my knowledge Canada is relatively more into this holiday than other parts of the world (the USA in particular who have memorial day). But seeing as it is celabrated in many countries around the world I think this is still appropriate.

 

 

 

Now I will start this off with a song (and watch the video with it or it won't make much sense) and a poem.

 

[hide=Pitance of Time]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyrCm5e32qc[/hide]

 

[hide=About the Song]On November 11, 1999 Terry Kelly was in a drug store in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. At 10:55 AM an announcement came over the store's PA asking customers who would still be on the premises at 11:00 AM to give two minutes of silence in respect to the veterans who have sacrificed so much for us.

 

 

 

Terry was impressed with the store's leadership role in adopting the Legion's "two minutes of silence" initiative. He felt that the store's contribution of educating the public to the importance of remembering was commendable.

 

 

 

When eleven o'clock arrived on that day, an announcement was again made asking for the "two minutes of silence" to commence. All customers, with the exception of a man who was accompanied by his young child, showed their respect.

 

 

 

Terry's anger towards the father for trying to engage the store's clerk in conversation and for setting a bad example for his child was channeled into a beautiful piece of work called, "A Pittance of Time". Terry later recorded "A Pittance of Time" and included it on his full-length music CD, "The Power of the Dream".

 

 

 

In the interest of creating a greater awareness of the sacrifices that have been made and are still being made on our behalf, "A Pittance of Time" has been adapted to the French language and titled "C'est si peu de temps". Music videos for both audio tracks too were produced in support of the campaign and a musical/theatrical concert production, "Two Minutes of Silence -- A Pittance of Time", was written for the stage.

 

 

 

"Two Minutes of Silence - A Pittance of Time" combines music and theatre in an emotional production that looks at the folly of war. The inspirational songs and dramatic monologues evoke memories both tinged with sadness and joy that ultimately underscore the need for hope and faith in the goodness of humankind.

 

 

 

A relationship - set in World War One -- unfolds as a young Canadian soldier fighting in the trenches attempts to bring some sanity to his horrific situation by corresponding with his new bride back home.

 

 

 

Singer/songwriter Terry Kelly features many of his own compositions such as "In My Father's House", "Moment To Moment", "We Can Do Anything", Safe Home, "A Pittance of Time" (and more) plus a few familiar songs from war times - "Pack Up Your Troubles", "It's a Long Way to Tipperary", "Over There" ....

 

 

 

This self-contained production includes three musicians, two actors, and a technical crew.

 

- Terry Kelly

 

 

 

element enterprises uploaded this video to pay respect to the veterans of the Canadian Forces. It is not our intention to unlawfully distribute this video. This video was acquired from the Canadian Army Website.

 

 

 

The above is taken from the description on youtube which I know to be true. And as an aside, I live very close to Dartmouth (pronouced dart-muth or, less corectly, dart-mith but NOT dart-mouth)[/hide]

 

[hide=In Flanders Fields]In Flanders fields the poppies blow

 

Between the crosses, row on row,

 

That mark our place; and in the sky

 

The larks, still bravely singing, fly

 

Scarce heard amid the guns below.

 

 

 

We are the dead. Short days ago

 

We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,

 

Loved, and were loved, and now we lie

 

In Flanders fields.

 

 

 

Take up our quarrel with the foe:

 

To you from failing hands we throw

 

The torch; be yours to hold it high.

 

If ye break faith with us who die

 

We shall not sleep, though poppies grow

 

In Flanders fields.

 

 

 

Lt.-Col. John McCrae[/hide]

 

I can't see the poem being a legal issue considering it can be found of ,I belive, the Canadian $10 bill.

 

 

 

So whats my point?

 

I am looking for disscusion on how the people of tip.it view and (if applicable) celebrate remembrance day. In regards to the song I posted, most candians would view what that man did through most of the video as morally dispicable. To not take 2 minutes of your life once a year to remember the attrocites and people who were involved in the (mainly) First World War (and the others aswell) is evidence of a pretty morally deficient person. For much of Canada (excepting the 3 territorys which I don't know much about), November 11 is a holiday for Federal and Provincial workers and many other compainies give their staff the day off. Services such as police, fire and helth care are excepted because they are needed. Except for Ontario and Quebec it is a general holiday meaning that there is no school. As each timezone hits the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month (11:00am, November 11), everyone is expected to stop what they are doing for 2 minutes (which is what that song was about for people who skipped it). The poem is there as a bonus since I know it is very well known in Canada but not about how well known it is in other contries.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

[hide=principals of a Just war]-A just war can only be waged as a last resort. All non-violent options must be exhausted before the use of force can be justified.

 

-A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority. Even just causes cannot be served by actions taken by individuals or groups who do not constitute an authority sanctioned by whatever the society and outsiders to the society deem legitimate.

 

-A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause (although the justice of the cause is not sufficient--see point #4). Further, a just war can only be fought with "right" intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury.

 

-A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success. Deaths and injury incurred in a hopeless cause are not morally justifiable.

 

-The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought.

 

-The violence used in the war must be proportional to the injury suffered. States are prohibited from using force not necessary to attain the limited objective of addressing the injury suffered.

 

-The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.[/hide]

[Star.]

11th November at 11am...?

 

 

 

Waiting at the bus stop. I'll most likely be waiting in silence, unless the bus pulls up.

[Jimmyw3000]

Heh, i was in our town's Rememberance Day Parade-when we all march around our town, go to church, march back, salute the mayor etc. or something along those lines...

[tintin113]

Isn't Britain the country that takes Rememberance Day the most seriously?

 

 

 

I normally am standing, not sitting, in front of the television in silence during the two minute silence, and we'll just have the TV left on that channel until it finishes.

 

 

 

However this time I was having a sleep-over at a mate's house and clean forgot what day it was until after 11 o'clock.

[mistywerty]

Mine, and all the other regiments of our town marched round a war memorial, listened the trumpet, heard some extracts from the bible and sung hymns in remembrance of all those that died in the three wars.

 

 

 

It was quite touching really, an old man in his old beret came along along in his wheelchair. He probably fought in the war, and lost some great friends in doing so. He started crying at the sound of the trumpet.

[Skull]

I'll be asleep, because I don't have school. I'd probably be asleep anyways though. Americans really don't care all that much. It's actually pretty sad.

[Ginger_Warrior]

I'll be asleep, because I don't have school. I'd probably be asleep anyways though. Americans really don't care all that much. It's actually pretty sad.

 

That's probably because America has never, nor never will be, part of the Commonwealth. ;)

[Skull]

I'll be asleep, because I don't have school. I'd probably be asleep anyways though. Americans really don't care all that much. It's actually pretty sad.

 

That's probably because America has never, nor never will be, part of the Commonwealth. ;)

 

Veteran's Day. Should have been clearer.

[Danqazmlp]

I usually don't make a big fuss about rememberence day, i know my old school has a 1 minute silence, and probably the same with all schools in the UK. I did see a program on tv the other night about the last people to die in WW1, 3 people died in the last 10 mins between 10:50 and 11:00 on the 11th nov. Really made me angry at the generals (sadly american generals who didn't want to stop fighting and wanted to push germany into total submission, hypocricy much?). I don't see the mindset in sending soldiers to die when just a few minutes later you could stop them from dieing? I think it was over 800 men died in just the last day of fighting, its really a dark stat for humans.

[dangeresque]

I'll set aside some time to remember, it is a good thing :.

[Furah]

I'll be sleeping untill my Maths SC Exam ends, because they give you WAY too much time for it.... -.-