Free To Play Fletching

[txxxt5]

No, I don't think that F2P should get fletching. While it is true that the other 2 forms of combat both have their own methods of creating related items, smithing requires 90+ to smith rune items and as for rune crafting, we are limited to the basic elemental runes, mind, and bodies. Which means we can only create runes that can cast up to 'Curse'. Any (F2P) spell after that forces us to buy the additional runes needed. So, I don't think that we need fletching. If you want arrow in F2P, just make some money and buy them. F2P didn't need it before, and we don't need it now.

 

 

 

In addition to that, thousands of members would go crazy and spam every forum they could find with F2P hate posts.

 

 

 

 

 

dunno if im bringing this back to life or not but i just want to say.. if this is so why dont we get the lower level fletching...even steel and willow would be nice to balance things out... i say this because you said most melee cant make rune... no mage can make their best runes.. shouldnt it be range cant make their best arrows? for real i dont really know any members that make steel and below arrows, they do mithril bolts, and addy through rune most of the time.

 

 

 

edit- didnt read whole thing till now and i do support the npc fletcher...that would be AWESOME, but for the g.e i suggest letting arrowheads, and arrowshafts be tradeable so incase someone either doesnt want to make arrowshafts or have the smithing level to make the arrowheads then can buy from their and then go to the fletcher

[riakk]

Your desire to have the skill is the very reason why Jagex won't give it to you, I'm afraid. Fletching is such a popular skill it serves as a very large carrot to lead f2pers into p2p.

 

 

 

I agree with you, but it ain't gonna happen.

 

 

 

You are one very smart and very correct person.

 

Jagex's Runescape is a business, they won't give-in to the wants of F2p because their goal is to basically persuade the F2per's to pay some money to get such updates. If Jagex just gave things to F2p willy-nilly, there woudl be less incentive for players to move to the membership status. Whilst I do (partially) agree with letting F2p get some benefits, there are good reasons for the balance of Free-Paying.

[Blackangel]

I agree with this but i think f2p should be able to fletch addy arrows and maple bows, but also be able to craft green d'hide ;)

[txxxt5]

I agree with this but i think f2p should be able to fletch addy arrows and maple bows, but also be able to craft green d'hide ;)

 

 

 

i completely agree with this. though addy arrows are a partial agreement seeing that members might make these to profit. But maple and green d'hide are usually used to alc. IF these were put into f2p then they would go down in price since the demand went down and be worth it to alc (or atleast a slight loss of money to the alcer) I doubt members will give f2p green drags but theres always hopeing :) the alc thing goes for the maple bows too. maple longs are where mems start to string and alc cause it actually starts to be worth alcing (unlike maple short and below)

 

 

 

i really dont see the wrong in giveing us the low fletching. If f2p starts to fletch they'll see how awesome it is and move to members to do more things. This isnt taking fletching away for members.. it would be advertising it as all skills do. the only skill thats close to 100% f2p is mineing but even that is easiest on mems cause of the blast furnace

[Vezon Dash]

Jagex should make it to where f2p can make their own arrows but not their own bows...but that would mean 0 fletching exp from making arrows...

[sambudwiser]

Thank you for response and I see why Jagex doesn't give it to us.

 

 

 

i think jagex thud give f2p herblore...its a socy skill and no1 likes it(well no1 i kno) and f2p only has tht free potion tht does nothing from apoacher and str pot. and this could also raise prices for herbs cuz f2p cant kill anything 4 em :thumbsup:

[txxxt5]

Jagex should make it to where f2p can make their own arrows but not their own bows...but that would mean 0 fletching exp from making arrows...

 

 

 

what do you mean 0 fletching exp from making arrows? you get xp from arrows even though its very small lol. but yea that is a good idea. even makeing our own arrows would be awesome. bows are easy enough to buy from the g.e. arrows are alittle harder to find. even bronze arrows i sometimes have to wait for like a day to get and then shoot :/

[BloodArgon]

Thank you for response and I see why Jagex doesn't give it to us.

 

 

 

i think jagex thud give f2p herblore...its a socy skill and no1 likes it(well no1 i kno) and f2p only has tht free potion tht does nothing from apoacher and str pot. and this could also raise prices for herbs cuz f2p cant kill anything 4 em :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Why do you think no one likes it? Because it costs so much money and you cant turn a profit.

 

With your idea, herb prices go up, potions go down, and the skill becomes worse.

 

 

 

Fail.

[txxxt5]

Thank you for response and I see why Jagex doesn't give it to us.

 

 

 

i think jagex thud give f2p herblore...its a socy skill and no1 likes it(well no1 i kno) and f2p only has tht free potion tht does nothing from apoacher and str pot. and this could also raise prices for herbs cuz f2p cant kill anything 4 em :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Why do you think no one likes it? Because it costs so much money and you cant turn a profit.

 

With your idea, herb prices go up, potions go down, and the skill becomes worse.

 

 

 

Fail.

 

 

 

 

 

whoa whoa wait... he might be on to something... if the herbs go up in price wont the people be want to make potions less? in turn making the potions go up too, only f2p that have lots of money will want to make the potions. the con to all this though is all of the 2ndary ingrediants... f2p would be hard to obtain these, and also the quest would have to be moved probably since its required to do herblore and its in a mem only place

[purewcnub]

[sarcasm]Why don't we give F2P godswords too?[/sarcasm] :roll:

[txxxt5]

[sarcasm]Why don't we give F2P godswords too?[/sarcasm] :roll:

 

 

 

that would make f2p even more uneven... although it would drive up the price of godswords in turn makeing mems rich :D.. fletching is actually a idea jagex might consider.. theres no reason why f2p shouldnt get alittle fletching since melee can do most of their armour, mages can make some of their runes. but where is range in this pattern... range has to buy from the g.e. or pay really high prices at gen store lol

[sambudwiser]

Thank you for response and I see why Jagex doesn't give it to us.

 

 

 

i think jagex thud give f2p herblore...its a socy skill and no1 likes it(well no1 i kno) and f2p only has tht free potion tht does nothing from apoacher and str pot. and this could also raise prices for herbs cuz f2p cant kill anything 4 em :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Why do you think no one likes it? Because it costs so much money and you cant turn a profit.

 

With your idea, herb prices go up, potions go down, and the skill becomes worse.

 

 

 

Fail.

 

 

 

 

 

whoa whoa wait... he might be on to something... if the herbs go up in price wont the people be want to make potions less? in turn making the potions go up too, only f2p that have lots of money will want to make the potions. the con to all this though is all of the 2ndary ingrediants... f2p would be hard to obtain these, and also the quest would have to be moved probably since its required to do herblore and its in a mem only place

 

 

 

thnx for tryin to back me up but u missed my point. GE is based on supply and demand...nonmems cant get to the herbs...thus only mems can if only mems can the supply will stay about same but demand will do up, simple right? trust me nonmems will train herb...cuz wen i was nonmem, long time, i trained useless or near useless skills.

[Romy]

Well...even though I agree it should be for free players (or atleast parts of it), I can pretty much gurtantee this will never happen... :wall: :wall: :wall:

[vesuvius27]

You have a great point. And as a paying customer, how do exactly do you suggest Jagex rectify your issues?

[Will H]

Your desire to have the skill is the very reason why Jagex won't give it to you, I'm afraid. Fletching is such a popular skill it serves as a very large carrot to lead f2pers into p2p.

 

 

 

I agree with you, but it ain't gonna happen.

 

 

 

You are one very smart and very correct person.

 

Jagex's Runescape is a business, they won't give-in to the wants of F2p because their goal is to basically persuade the F2per's to pay some money to get such updates. If Jagex just gave things to F2p willy-nilly, there woudl be less incentive for players to move to the membership status. Whilst I do (partially) agree with letting F2p get some benefits, there are good reasons for the balance of Free-Paying.

 

Cheers. :D

[neanderthol]

just buy the arrows, it's not that expensive.

Try telling that to a range-crazed newbie, fresh off tutorial island. I tried, didn't work. Why? They only have 25 gp to start with, and they didn't want to use that up, or go skilling. What would they have needed? Basic arrow-making, which is the one thing that places them in a worse position than basic mages/warriors... Further, not having the ability to make their own basic ammo in F2P makes them less inclined to go P2P... Why? Because they think, "If I can't even make ammo here, what's to say it would be any good to go P2P?", and therefore Jagex ends up minus a possible P2P customer. Seeing as the phrase "money makes the world go round" is true, it would therefore be in Jagex's best interest to provide basic ammunition-making capability for Rangers... That would ultimately entice more of those F2P (with possible inclination to go P2P) Rangers to go P2P... :ugeek:

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. "Sometimes, you have to re-realize what is beneficial..." Devnull

 

 

 

But if there was a range crazed newbie, he would have already have got 3 range from tutorial island. Then the free beginer's arrows and bow on chickens and sell any feather drops gives around anywhere between 500-1000 coins since you get free arrows every 30 minutes, I hardly see how they would need much else.(Until they have enough money for bronze arrows 8gp each and a shortbow...)

 

 

 

So my conclusion is, a smart newbie can find ways to make some money by range.

 

when have you ever seen or heard of a smart newbie , thats why there newbies.

[sambudwiser]

just buy the arrows, it's not that expensive.

Try telling that to a range-crazed newbie, fresh off tutorial island. I tried, didn't work. Why? They only have 25 gp to start with, and they didn't want to use that up, or go skilling. What would they have needed? Basic arrow-making, which is the one thing that places them in a worse position than basic mages/warriors... Further, not having the ability to make their own basic ammo in F2P makes them less inclined to go P2P... Why? Because they think, "If I can't even make ammo here, what's to say it would be any good to go P2P?", and therefore Jagex ends up minus a possible P2P customer. Seeing as the phrase "money makes the world go round" is true, it would therefore be in Jagex's best interest to provide basic ammunition-making capability for Rangers... That would ultimately entice more of those F2P (with possible inclination to go P2P) Rangers to go P2P... :ugeek:

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. "Sometimes, you have to re-realize what is beneficial..." Devnull

 

 

 

But if there was a range crazed newbie, he would have already have got 3 range from tutorial island. Then the free beginer's arrows and bow on chickens and sell any feather drops gives around anywhere between 500-1000 coins since you get free arrows every 30 minutes, I hardly see how they would need much else.(Until they have enough money for bronze arrows 8gp each and a shortbow...)

 

 

 

So my conclusion is, a smart newbie can find ways to make some money by range.

 

when have you ever seen or heard of a smart newbie , thats why there newbies.

 

 

 

newbie means some1 is new to the game of rs...thts ignorance. stupidity is.....i cant explain lol ill give an example: paris hilton. im preety sure there r smart newbs out there and i think there r higher lv people dumber than noobs. what about those [bleep] tards in clan wars or any otehr pvp minigame tht calls u a "def noob" or an "attk noob" or a "str noob". a person in lumby askin u which way to varrok is not as stupid as calling some1 a newb because they have an advantage over u.

[Bromtaghon]

I think F2P should get fletching, but not all of it. Just like how mages can't craft laws and deaths and chaoss (what is the plural of chaos anyways), F2P doesn't need to be allowed to fletch everything. Maybe bronze/iron arrows and up to oak bows.