Free To Play Fletching

[Artigiano]

I know what some of the member's are thinking." Free players don't need anymore updates they have recieved enough". Normally i would agree but this has just came to my attention. When you try to balance a game you give and take things but Jagex took to much away from rangers. If you look at warriors you see that they can make their own armor and weapons through Smithing. Mages can make their own runes through Runecrafting. But rangers can only make the worst armor through Crafting. I believe this is not fair. This is where fletching comes in. I am not saying to make Fletching entirely f2p but just enough to balance it. I believe they should allow free players to make up to willow bows and mithril arrows. This also allows free players to make arrow heads through smithing. Yes some of the arrows are cheap and inexpensive but have to continuiously buy arrows adds up. This is my idea it doesn't have to be accepted or denied but i would just like to share my ideas on this problem.Please respond and thank you.

[Will H]

Your desire to have the skill is the very reason why Jagex won't give it to you, I'm afraid. Fletching is such a popular skill it serves as a very large carrot to lead f2pers into p2p.

 

 

 

I agree with you, but it ain't gonna happen.

[Artigiano]

Thank you for response and I see why Jagex doesn't give it to us.

[123_x_pac]

Fletching can make low level fletchers money when they sell the bows and arrows that f2p'ers need. So your taking away a money making method for people new to fletching that would like to make money from it or profit.

[BloodArgon]

Melee can make rune armor, which takes 99, most FTP do not have this type of money (some do) but not many.

 

Mages can make runes; but only minds and bodies for training wise. Chaos, death, and nature runes are primary training for FTP, but all members made.

 

This keeps members making good money, which, would make people want to get members, thus, your business model.

[Jenove]

ur talking about a big fat cat giving us his big fat carrot

[BloodArgon]

ur talking about a big fat cat giving us his big fat carrot

 

 

 

I was unaware that cats were known to eat carrots.

 

That was a completely nonconstructive post.

[Balazeal]

No, I don't think that F2P should get fletching. While it is true that the other 2 forms of combat both have their own methods of creating related items, smithing requires 90+ to smith rune items and as for rune crafting, we are limited to the basic elemental runes, mind, and bodies. Which means we can only create runes that can cast up to 'Curse'. Any (F2P) spell after that forces us to buy the additional runes needed. So, I don't think that we need fletching. If you want arrow in F2P, just make some money and buy them. F2P didn't need it before, and we don't need it now.

 

 

 

In addition to that, thousands of members would go crazy and spam every forum they could find with F2P hate posts.

[cravey]

i think this would be great but should be limited as much as rc

 

 

 

and to all you P2Ps who say F2P dont deserve this: use construction, bulid a bridge and get over it!!!!!!!!!

[D. V. Devnull]

I would have to say that giving enough fletching for 'full F2P self-sufficiency' would be a bad idea... However, being allowed to make bronze and/or iron arrows (but not any bows) would permanently handle the range-training needs of F2P... Anything more, and those who wish to squash this would then be right about it being bad, but not before that point... :geek:

 

 

 

So, I'll support, but only for just allowing bronze and/or iron arrows. NOTHING MORE. :shame:

 

 

 

~D. V. "A micro-amount is needed for F2P, but nothing more." Devnull

[Weiyao]

Not really needed tbh...

 

Smithing and Runecrafting are both really limited. Smithing is only useful at 90-ish for rune, before then addy or below is useless. We can only make elemental and body runes in F2P, that's hardly "Making their own runes" where most magers will need death or chaos runes.

 

 

 

No, I do not think F2P needs Fletching even a little bit, just buy the arrows, it's not that expensive.

[D. V. Devnull]

just buy the arrows, it's not that expensive.

Try telling that to a range-crazed newbie, fresh off tutorial island. I tried, didn't work. Why? They only have 25 gp to start with, and they didn't want to use that up, or go skilling. What would they have needed? Basic arrow-making, which is the one thing that places them in a worse position than basic mages/warriors... Further, not having the ability to make their own basic ammo in F2P makes them less inclined to go P2P... Why? Because they think, "If I can't even make ammo here, what's to say it would be any good to go P2P?", and therefore Jagex ends up minus a possible P2P customer. Seeing as the phrase "money makes the world go round" is true, it would therefore be in Jagex's best interest to provide basic ammunition-making capability for Rangers... That would ultimately entice more of those F2P (with possible inclination to go P2P) Rangers to go P2P... :ugeek:

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. "Sometimes, you have to re-realize what is beneficial..." Devnull

[Weiyao]

just buy the arrows, it's not that expensive.

Try telling that to a range-crazed newbie, fresh off tutorial island. I tried, didn't work. Why? They only have 25 gp to start with, and they didn't want to use that up, or go skilling. What would they have needed? Basic arrow-making, which is the one thing that places them in a worse position than basic mages/warriors... Further, not having the ability to make their own basic ammo in F2P makes them less inclined to go P2P... Why? Because they think, "If I can't even make ammo here, what's to say it would be any good to go P2P?", and therefore Jagex ends up minus a possible P2P customer. Seeing as the phrase "money makes the world go round" is true, it would therefore be in Jagex's best interest to provide basic ammunition-making capability for Rangers... That would ultimately entice more of those F2P (with possible inclination to go P2P) Rangers to go P2P... :ugeek:

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. "Sometimes, you have to re-realize what is beneficial..." Devnull

 

 

 

But if there was a range crazed newbie, he would have already have got 3 range from tutorial island. Then the free beginer's arrows and bow on chickens and sell any feather drops gives around anywhere between 500-1000 coins since you get free arrows every 30 minutes, I hardly see how they would need much else.(Until they have enough money for bronze arrows 8gp each and a shortbow...)

 

 

 

So my conclusion is, a smart newbie can find ways to make some money by range.

[Piu]

Even though myself is a FTP, I don't agree, it would make the raw materials skyrocket, then drop, then make arrows price lower. Biiiiig disturbance to the economy. Also, if you want fletching so bad, just cough up $5. ;)

[Will H]

I would have to say that giving enough fletching for 'full F2P self-sufficiency' would be a bad idea... However, being allowed to make bronze and/or iron arrows (but not any bows) would permanently handle the range-training needs of F2P... Anything more, and those who wish to squash this would then be right about it being bad, but not before that point... :geek:

 

 

 

So, I'll support, but only for just allowing bronze and/or iron arrows. NOTHING MORE. :shame:

 

 

 

~D. V. "A micro-amount is needed for F2P, but nothing more." Devnull

 

In that case, make arrowheads f2p smithable, make a few NPC fletching shops where you can exchange logs and arrowheads and feathers for arrows. No need to give them the entire skill if all they're going to get is a few low level arrows.

[Piu]

I would have to say that giving enough fletching for 'full F2P self-sufficiency' would be a bad idea... However, being allowed to make bronze and/or iron arrows (but not any bows) would permanently handle the range-training needs of F2P... Anything more, and those who wish to squash this would then be right about it being bad, but not before that point... :geek:

 

 

 

So, I'll support, but only for just allowing bronze and/or iron arrows. NOTHING MORE. :shame:

 

 

 

~D. V. "A micro-amount is needed for F2P, but nothing more." Devnull

 

In that case, make arrowheads f2p smithable, make a few NPC fletching shops where you can exchange logs and arrowheads and feathers for arrows. No need to give them the entire skill if all they're going to get is a few low level arrows.

 

 

 

Make it a really tiny part of fletching. Then yes, maybe I would support.

[D. V. Devnull]

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In that case, make arrowheads f2p smithable, make a few NPC fletching shops where you can exchange logs and arrowheads and feathers for arrows. No need to give them the entire skill if all they're going to get is a few low level arrows.

Make it a really tiny part of fletching. Then yes, maybe I would support.

I guess I could go for that... Just as long as it does not come with any kind of gp costs to have the arrows made... Why? Because the NPC is effectively getting the load of fletching exp, at least in a sense... :geek:

 

 

 

~D. V. "Works for me..." Devnull

[Will H]

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In that case, make arrowheads f2p smithable, make a few NPC fletching shops where you can exchange logs and arrowheads and feathers for arrows. No need to give them the entire skill if all they're going to get is a few low level arrows.

Make it a really tiny part of fletching. Then yes, maybe I would support.

I guess I could go for that... Just as long as it does not come with any kind of gp costs to have the arrows made... Why? Because the NPC is effectively getting the load of fletching exp, at least in a sense... :geek:

 

 

 

~D. V. "Works for me..." Devnull

 

Maybe it should change according to the ge prices? If the arrows are worth more than the materials combined, you should pay the difference. If the arrows are worth less than the materials, he/she should pay you the difference. I think it's a fair tradeoff.

[Sam]

Your desire to have the skill is the very reason why Jagex won't give it to you, I'm afraid. Fletching is such a popular skill it serves as a very large carrot to lead f2pers into p2p.

 

 

 

I agree with you, but it ain't gonna happen.

 

 

 

 

 

Took the words right out my mouth man.

 

 

 

 

 

I support this 100% even though I'm P2P*, but this will never/u] happen.

 

 

 

 

 

I support f2p rights!

[D. V. Devnull]

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I guess I could go for that... Just as long as it does not come with any kind of gp costs to have the arrows made... Why? Because the NPC is effectively getting the load of fletching exp, at least in a sense... :geek:

Maybe it should change according to the ge prices? If the arrows are worth more than the materials combined, you should pay the difference. If the arrows are worth less than the materials, he/she should pay you the difference. I think it's a fair tradeoff.

I will agree that is a good trade... Especially since the user will be getting paid for some time, given the current G.E. prices... Especially since the prices are currently insanely off-the-wall... :P

 

 

 

~D. V. "Works for me..." Devnull

[dv_trainer]

How about you add it to the Request Assist system - you can only use the skill if you have a member friend

 

You lose nothing, you gain nothing - really!

[Will H]

How about you add it to the Request Assist system - you can only use the skill if you have a member friend

 

You lose nothing, you gain nothing - really!

 

That should be possible too, but not everyone has a member friend willing to do that.

[D. V. Devnull]

How about you add it to the Request Assist system - you can only use the skill if you have a member friend

 

You lose nothing, you gain nothing - really!

That should be possible too, but not everyone has a member friend willing to do that.

Still though, it would be good to have... It could add to the community aspects of RuneScape, because people would then communicate and benefit together... This would cause the game to grow, simply due to the fact that there would be a nicer atmosphere to play within, and an increase in people who are more friendly... :

 

 

 

~D. V. "I see nothing but positive points there." Devnull

[Evil Pig20]

Well considering us members have lost all our scurrying bald level three macroers the prices of logs has never been higher, adding f2p into the mix would be like Jagex dumping of fletching, saying sorry then dumping on it again, wouldn't it? The skill would be so expensive only the richest members would be able to afford it and fletching capes would be repected (n0 wai!!1!1)

[D. V. Devnull]

Well considering us members have lost all our scurrying bald level three macroers the prices of logs has never been higher, adding f2p into the mix would be like Jagex dumping of fletching, saying sorry then dumping on it again, wouldn't it? The skill would be so expensive only the richest members would be able to afford it and fletching capes would be repected (n0 wai!!1!1)

Maybe this would be a good thing, then? Put respect back into a cape that's lost respect? :

 

 

 

~D. V. "LOL-zorz....." Devnull