I thought it was pretty funny.

 

 

 

38 years sounds more like he hacked into the FBI's systems...

 

Lol agreed.

 

 

 

I think it's ridiculous how easily some people throw their lives away. Especially someone that young... I think 38 years is excessive but that doesn't mean I have much sympathy for him..

I thought it was pretty funny.

 

 

 

38 years sounds more like he hacked into the FBI's systems...

 

Lol agreed.

 

 

 

I think it's ridiculous how easily some people throw their lives away. Especially someone that young... I think 38 years is excessive but that doesn't mean I have much sympathy for him..

 

If you hack into the FBI's system they can lock you up forever in solitary confinement, so how the hell is this anything like that?

I thought it was pretty funny.

 

 

 

38 years sounds more like he hacked into the FBI's systems...

 

Lol agreed.

 

 

 

I think it's ridiculous how easily some people throw their lives away. Especially someone that young... I think 38 years is excessive but that doesn't mean I have much sympathy for him..

 

If you hack into the FBI's system they can lock you up forever in solitary confinement, so how the hell is this anything like that?

 

God calm down :roll: I think what we BOTH meant was that something like an 18 year old hacking into a school system probably deserved more like 5 years tops. Potentially getting 38 years for that seems extreme so we compared it to a more extreme example. Obviously I know the consequences could be a lot worse than 38 years for hacking into the FBI systems.

I thought it was pretty funny.

 

 

 

38 years sounds more like he hacked into the FBI's systems...

 

Lol agreed.

 

 

 

I think it's ridiculous how easily some people throw their lives away. Especially someone that young... I think 38 years is excessive but that doesn't mean I have much sympathy for him..

 

If you hack into the FBI's system they can lock you up forever in solitary confinement, so how the hell is this anything like that?

 

God calm down :roll: I think what we BOTH meant was that something like an 18 year old hacking into a school system probably deserved more like 5 years tops. Potentially getting 38 years for that seems extreme so we compared it to a more extreme example. Obviously I know the consequences could be a lot worse than 38 years for hacking into the FBI systems.

 

I would disagree, he attempted to cheat the other kids by doing absolutely no work yet getting into a great college. He deserves to suffer for his crimes, which adds up to 38 years. Now, after the prosecution decides to lessen the load on that it will probably end up being about 15 years, which I think is fair. Merry Christmas,have fun in jail Omar.

 

 

 

As for the people comparing this to the genocide, the UN war crimes...

 

 

 

He was the brother of the president, the UN crimes board isn't really going to push for a decision that might anger the country.

I would disagree, he attempted to cheat the other kids by doing absolutely no work yet getting into a great college. He deserves to suffer for his crimes, which adds up to 38 years. Now, after the prosecution decides to lessen the load on that it will probably end up being about 15 years, which I think is fair. Merry Christmas,have fun in jail Omar.

 

 

 

As for the people comparing this to the genocide, the UN war crimes...

 

 

 

He was the brother of the president, the UN crimes board isn't really going to push for a decision that might anger the country.

 

As I said in my post, I have no sympathy for the kid. I agree with you that he deserves to suffer for his crimes. My point was that 38 years just seems excessive. I was surprised by the number, that's all. I agree with you that he has to pay for what he did.

He should be expelled and maybe face a year or two, but 38 is absolutely ridiculous. It seems to me that the teachers were careless and he took advantage of it. Seems like the school needs to teach their teachers to take better care of their passwords.

 

 

 

People who have hacked NASA have done less time than 38 years.

I screwed with the grades in my school and all I got was a three week suspension

 

 

 

And I didn't even talk to a single cop

pritty much what most said, 38 is a little over the top and thats LITTERALLY destroying his life. by the time he's out, he'll be close if not, in, retirement. wheres his super annuation then? :lol:

He really should move to Estonia. He'd get fined for $100 here, if not even less :P

I thought it was pretty funny.

 

 

 

38 years sounds more like he hacked into the FBI's systems...

 

Lol agreed.

 

 

 

I think it's ridiculous how easily some people throw their lives away. Especially someone that young... I think 38 years is excessive but that doesn't mean I have much sympathy for him..

 

If you hack into the FBI's system they can lock you up forever in solitary confinement, so how the hell is this anything like that?

 

 

 

Haven't seen the movie in question, but you're not looking at reality from an objective viewpoint. Everyone wants to benefit from any given situation with any means necessary.

 

 

 

Putting highly skilled hackers to do nothing but socialize with organised criminals for years in a federal prison will eventually expose them to extortion or coercion, the information and know-how will be passed on to people outside of prison who will hack for purely financial purposes and cause further harm.

 

 

 

It's also not uncommon for companies to hire hackers or ex.convicted hackers for security testing [1] due to their often superior technical knowledge.

 

 

 

The FBI has nothing to gain and everything to lose in the form of further financial and strategical losses by dealing excessive prison terms against highly skilled hackers. They are actually pretty often offered a highly paid job either at an antivirus/firewall laboratory or company, or a government agency.

 

 

 

Few companies hire burglars so they can observe their techniques to make a compound safer... Because even the lowliest common thugs can succesfully steal a TV set. The amount of people who can bypass NASA-level security can be counted in the dozens at most in the entire country & are very hard to find. Their skill can come pretty handy when the FBI has legal authority to make that hacker either work for them, or sit in a cell if he's convicted.

Kid should be given a medal for being so awesome. It's something everyone talks about doing, but only a few is capable of.

I don't see how a punishment other than being expelled from the school would make sense. Jail isn't a place for a 17 year old hacker.

I always get a good laugh out of self proclaimed hackers...

38 Years = :thumbdown:

 

 

 

Expulsion from school system + a year in prison and a fine = :thumbup:

38 Years = :thumbdown:

 

 

 

Expulsion from school system + a year in prison and a fine = :thumbup:

 

 

 

I've always held quite a strict view on law breakers but still, 1 year in jail for a school hacker?

 

 

 

The kid was doing it so he could attend further education and improve his life, not so he could financially gain from it. A strict fine yes, a lot of community care yes, helping his school build a much better anti-hacking system yes, but jail time?

 

 

 

If I was the judge I'd sentence him to resit his exams in a properly controlled room, a lot of community care and help his school build a better security main frame.

 

 

 

We don't know the full story, it seems like the guy had no chance at Uni if he cheated on state exams then had to change his exams result via hacking. Props to the guy that he wanted to attend Uni so much he hacked his school, at least he didn't give up on his goal.

 

The kid was doing it so he could attend further education and improve his life, not so he could financially gain from it. A strict fine yes, a lot of community care yes, helping his school build a much better anti-hacking system yes, but jail time?

 

 

 

 

So someone who worked hard to go to uni may miss out as he takes their place?

38 Years = :thumbdown:

 

 

 

Expulsion from school system + a year in prison and a fine = :thumbup:

 

 

 

I've always held quite a strict view on law breakers but still, 1 year in jail for a school hacker?

 

 

 

The kid was doing it so he could attend further education and improve his life, not so he could financially gain from it. A strict fine yes, a lot of community care yes, helping his school build a much better anti-hacking system yes, but jail time?

 

 

 

If I was the judge I'd sentence him to resit his exams in a properly controlled room, a lot of community care and help his school build a better security main frame.

 

 

 

We don't know the full story, it seems like the guy had no chance at Uni if he cheated on state exams then had to change his exams result via hacking. Props to the guy that he wanted to attend Uni so much he hacked his school, at least he didn't give up on his goal.

 

 

 

Yes. You give him a year in prison. I think you can make him an example by simply showing that there are real consequences for you waiting outside of the scholastic boundaries. 38 years is excessive, but he needs to know what he's done.

 

 

 

@ Dan: You messed up your quotes :P

 

@ Dan: You messed up your quotes :P

 

 

 

Fixed :thumbsup:

For those who keep saying he is 17, I would like to point out that on the 1st line it states he is 18 years old.

He's going to spend 67% of his life in jail...

 

 

 

38 years, he can forget about life as he just ruined his. Guess this teaches us all a lesson to study for tests.

 

The kid was doing it so he could attend further education and improve his life, not so he could financially gain from it. A strict fine yes, a lot of community care yes, helping his school build a much better anti-hacking system yes, but jail time?

 

 

 

 

So someone who worked hard to go to uni may miss out as he takes their place?

 

 

 

Missing an university spot means the offender has to be given a 3x higher prison sentence than a murderer would? On average you get 5 years for aggravated assault, 8 for voluntary manslaughter, 12 for murder... 38 for altering school grades/stealing test results?

 

 

 

Only an immature person would deem it a just punishment... And as the title says, that's the maximum penalty if convicted on all 69 counts (highly unlikely).

 

 

 

Even most war criminals sentenced to prison by the ICC get around 10-20 years on average for extermination, mass murder and genocide of civilian populations... What in comparison is turning a virtual letter from F to A? Unless people suddenly became detached from reality, I might add that the school grades of 1 person mean absolutely squat in the world. Missing an university spot doesn't mean anything in the big picture either. The punishment is ridiculous.

 

Only an immature person would deem it a just punishment... And as the title says, that's the maximum penalty if convicted on all 69 counts (highly unlikely).

 

 

 

I see, anything you disagree with must be immature, how grown up of you. 8-)

 

 

 

Laws are there for a reason, don't break them if you are not prepared to take the punishment.

 

Only an immature person would deem it a just punishment... And as the title says, that's the maximum penalty if convicted on all 69 counts (highly unlikely).

 

 

 

I see, anything you disagree with must be immature, how grown up of you. 8-)

 

 

 

Laws are there for a reason, don't break them if you are not prepared to take the punishment.

 

Don't argue with Blue.

 

Only an immature person would deem it a just punishment... And as the title says, that's the maximum penalty if convicted on all 69 counts (highly unlikely).

 

 

 

I see, anything you disagree with must be immature, how grown up of you. 8-)

 

 

 

Laws are there for a reason, don't break them if you are not prepared to take the punishment.

 

Don't argue with Blue.

 

 

 

Immature was the wrong word, though.

 

 

 

OT: People seem to ignore that 38 years is the MAX that he can possibly serve. The kid was only being made an example of. At the most, I say he gets 3 years.

Laws are there for a reason, don't break them if you are not prepared to take the punishment.

 

That's incredibly messed up. Your saying he should have demanded the teacher change his grades at gunpoint, because it would have netted him 1/4th the jail time, and probably have a less chance of being caught?

 

 

 

Hacking, as related to technology: changing or modifying a computer system in a way different from its intended purpose. I 'hack' when I cobble together a basic script to automate fan control of my graphics card. Hacking isn't a bad thing. Changing your grades through hacking is a bad thing, deserving of a steep fine and community service. Not 70% of the rest of your life spent in jail.