Dear Readers,

 

 

 

It's been a while since my latest rant but here is another one, and once again it is about revernants. I am seriously fed up by the fact that revernants are still overpowered, they do not resemble pk-ers (as they should according to Jagex) and somehow they always seem to track me for 5 or 6 worlds, I can't log into a world normally to mine any rune ore without getting a swooshh *hit* ohhh another 30 hp off, thank you...

 

 

 

Anyways here below I would like to take you into a journey of the blasphemous revernants, the most hated creatures in rs ( I am sure of that.... well maybe... no I can;t say that here).

 

 

 

First of all I would like to state that ever since revernants came (after the wildy update, which in fact was good), My Death toll has been increasing tremendously. Usually while mining rune I might have died 1/100 times I encountered pk-ers, and mostly I got killed when they hunted in groups. As of today a single reverant can take me down in 3 hits, even though i got maxed meelee, 99 hp as well as a nice prayer. They have the power to hit through a prayer with an uncanning force, which normal pk-ers never had! Further more you could predict that there was a pk-er because pk-ers had white dots, they where not NPC. I have stated before, why don't give revernants their own coloured dots??? maybe orange??? They wanted them to resemble pk-ers, but they do not. And by the way, did you ever saw an f2p-er hit constant 20+, or saw them do a teleport block, or freeze someone into a block of ice (= ice barrage)?

 

 

 

As you might know the only things wildy is being used in f2p is mostly for mining of ores, especially runite ore which is very valuable and can only be found in wildy in f2p. I know it is dangerous to do so, but if you walk back with a full bag of ore worth about 550k gp you are watching out for yourself, but still these revernants always come (really last 7 worlds i just visted, 6 of them had revernant ork (lvl 105 cb) and 1 a rev ork as well as a revernant knight (lvl 126). Why does Jagex want to give us a hard time?

 

 

 

Also I see many low combat rune miners atm (in early days you barely ever saw a low combat rune miner), there is nothing wrong with them, but they can mine ore happily since they never get attaked by the abundance of revernants that seem to hit me every freaking world i visit.

 

 

 

What can i do about this? Nothing! I am not a member hence i got no right to whine blah blah blah... All I can do is post a topic here about how much I (and many other people) hate revernants and hope some lazy scumbag there in their Jagex office watches it and finally starts doing their job: making runescape a happy place for everyone!

 

 

 

[hide=I won't do this]I feel like throwing bricks through Jagex office for every time a rev kills me[/hide]

 

 

 

Conclusion: I am aware death comes with f2p rune mining, but Jagex has to see they have overpowered creatures running amok in their f2p worlds making the world around there actually not a nice place to be

 

 

 

Thank you for your attention (if you even made it to here),

 

 

 

Mauranius

oh yeh before i forget, 4 days ago i got attacked my 2 revernants at the same time in a single combat zone, not multi, i wanna know how they do that?

Revenants are no challenge whatsoever even from combat level 90 and above. The mindset that many of the supporters here have is "omg overpowered no point in fighting"

 

 

 

This is very wrong, I suggest trying to fight a revenant and tell me how easy it actually is. If you think it was hard, then you weren't prepared. They will have a big advantage on you if you run away. If you stand up and fight, they are horribly weak.

 

 

 

Everyone treats the idea of Revenants as them being NPCs. If they were supposed to be NPCs, then they would be too strong. But they are supposed to replace the original danger of the wilderness: player killers. They do a terrible job of this, with a weak max hit of 30-35, and only 5 sec freezing time. Plus, their teleport block isn't even successful all the time.

 

 

 

People argue that "omg they switch attack styles instantly omg overpowered". Who cares. They do so little damage anyways that you can just eat a shark and completely recover. At level 100, I killed a Revenant Knight easily with a few sharks.

 

 

 

We have several advantages over Revenants that we didn't have with pkers. We can use the Salve Amulet (e). 20% attack and strength bonus versus the undead. Still think they are overpowered and too hard to kill? I have many more things to point out.

 

 

 

-They can be trapped on walls, and then you can log out.

 

-They can't run, and are thus easy to escape.

 

-They have a *chance* to freeze you for a meaningless 5 seconds.

 

-We can use protect prayers which provide 100% protection versus their attacks rather than the 40% versus players.

 

 

 

Jagex made Revenants too easy. We simply have too many advantages to count. The old pkers have the strength and ability of maybe two knights combined, probably more. The only problem I can think of with Revenants is that they have no mercy. Put a percent symbol inside brackets to show you read at least part of this. Meaning, they will attack everyone, and not spare a person training at the agility arena, which pkers could have spared.

 

 

 

This is insignificant to be honest with you, mainly because you can just climb down that ladder and they'll never bother you again.

 

 

 

Not to stereotype, but , but I am pretty confident that many of your supporters have not actually tried Revenant hunting. They are a joke. Period.

 

 

 

A real example: I was killing the Chaos Elemental. Halfway through the fight, I was ambushed by a team of seven Revenants (3 Knights and 4 Orcs). So, I was being hit 20+ by the Chaos Ele, and being hit almost three times at once by Revenants. I killed 1 revenant before they finally brought me down. If you ask me, they should be updated so they can hit 50+, I should have been k0ed on the spot if it was any real group of pkers.

 

 

 

My Revenant Survival Gear:

 

Black D Hide/Karils + Range Prayer

 

You have maybe 15% chance of getting hit any damage at all, even by a knight.

 

 

 

My Revenant Hunting Gear:

 

Full Barrows/Melee Armor + Magic Prayer, Smite for DDS Specs

 

You will use 4-5 Sharks when killing a knight with 80 defense.

 

 

 

Thank you for reading.

 

 

Revenants are woefully underpowered in PTP, and easy to defeat in FTP. Run and hide behind a tree, then world hop! Protect from range = they can no longer freeze you. In welfare (black d hide) gear, I can usually get hit ~1 time escaping from a Revenant knight with protect from range to run behind the nearest tree and log. They are PATHETIC.

Dear Readers,

 

 

 

It's been a while since my latest rant

 

I stopped right there, maybe this should go here?

 

Also Revnants go to any spots where; 1. Your standing still for a long time, ot 2. There is alot of people in 1 area.

I really hate that too. All it takes is ONE revenant VAMPIRE and my whole trip could be messed up! Might I mention I'm nearly 40 levels higher than it and I still don't stand a chance against it. It's almost as if they have level 99 in all of the combat stats which is weird for a a level 68. It's no wonder why runite ore costs more these days...

I really hate that too. All it takes is ONE revenant VAMPIRE and my whole trip could be messed up! Might I mention I'm nearly 40 levels higher than it and I still don't stand a chance against it. It's almost as if they have level 99 in all of the combat stats which is weird for a a level 68. It's no wonder why runite ore costs more these days...

 

Then you should submit a bug report 'cause you've met a glitched one. Those level 126 knights virtually never hit and are pathetically easy to outwit by hiding behind a tree, despite being higher combat level then me.

Maybe I should have pointed this out sooner, but quite a few rune miners don't aim to kill revenants so they don't bring much in the way of armour or weapons - it would weigh them down (I have tried armour a few times and they still made minced meat of me :x ). Nor can they bring much food because they need space for rune ore. Sure it does sound like we bring trouble on ourselves. But it is much easier to survive a player than a rev from my experience.

oh yeh before i forget, 4 days ago i got attacked my 2 revernants at the same time in a single combat zone, not multi, i wanna know how they do that?

 

Ok, that made me laugh. That is messed up, because real Pker's could do that [/sarcasm]

 

I hear you man, it stinks. Because of them, I have to resort to killin Green Drag's in the Chaos Tunnels.

Maybe I should have pointed this out sooner, but quite a few rune miners don't aim to kill revenants so they don't bring much in the way of armour or weapons - it would weigh them down (I have tried armour a few times and they still made minced meat of me :x ). Nor can they bring much food because they need space for rune ore. Sure it does sound like we bring trouble on ourselves. But it is much easier to survive a player than a rev from my experience.

 

So your saying it was easier to avoid an intelligent PKer with any armor or food then a monster you can simply pray from (100% damage protect), run behind a tree, and log? Pray protect from range and head for the nearest tree, you'd have to be stupid to die. What's the problem?

hey i mine rune ore to... yes they do need to cut the revs powers down in f2p... yea nman and ill join u in hurting andrew and paul gower.... well drown them together in a small puddle.. they might learn em/

 

give us rsc back u swines

 

 

 

 

 

theyve let the game go to [cabbage]

Revenants are woefully underpowered in PTP, and easy to defeat in FTP.

 

Revenants do not represent F2P Pkers. No F2Per ever hit 30+ at a distance, or even consistently hit above 20. No F2Per ever had teleblock, or a freeze for longer than 5 seconds. Any PKer would be stopped by the aggressive spiders in a single way combat. Revenants are not.

 

In welfare (black d hide) gear, I can usually get hit ~1 time escaping from a Revenant knight with protect from range to run behind the nearest tree and log. They are PATHETIC.

 

Stay with us compfreak - this is f2p. No black d'hide. Just green.

 

 

 

Most a F2Per ever hit with range was 18 - mage was 16 - and melee was a rare 33. Revenants are overpowered in F2P.

Another factor about pk-ers was that you could predict them, there was a higher risk of meeting them in a more crowded world, you could see them targeting in on you by watching their white dot coming closer. Also they didn't fire attacks as fast as revernants do atm.

 

 

 

So why Jagex say they resemble pk-ers in f2p, whilst they clearly have way more power than any pk-er ever had in f2p? And why don't they do anything about the predictability of an attack? Research in animals has shown us in the past that if there is a factor of fear somewhere and they can either predict it or control it, stress is reduced. And stressful events, even on a computer game, can set people like me on fire (short tempered ftw). So yeh Jagex thanks for making me angry once again.

 

 

 

Compfreak I know where you're aiming at, but since you are p2p I am happy to explain why this not always works for f2p. I am aware of the trick of the tree and it works, but not always. Also if you are in the need of run you still have your agility, which non-members usually don't have. Further more we only have green dhide in f2p as sees all stated, so a lack of protection against magic attacks. Furthermore these creatures are somehow able to hit 4 times in a row 20+ right through my prayer. Then if we die the best gravestone we can buy survives for 2 minutes, which is not enough for an f2p-er without any teleports into the wildy it is undable to race up from lumbridge castle, grab a teleport to either varrock or barbarian village (skull sceptre) and then run up to where you died..... this can not be done! Plus I always want to get the ore if i see it in a rock, maybe it's my bad.. but mostly i survive that, and then meet a rev on the way to the bank.....

Revenants are woefully underpowered in PTP, and easy to defeat in FTP.

 

Revenants do not represent F2P Pkers. No F2Per ever hit 30+ at a distance, or even consistently hit above 20. No F2Per ever had teleblock, or a freeze for longer than 5 seconds. Any PKer would be stopped by the aggressive spiders in a single way combat. Revenants are not.

 

In welfare (black d hide) gear, I can usually get hit ~1 time escaping from a Revenant knight with protect from range to run behind the nearest tree and log. They are PATHETIC.

 

Stay with us compfreak - this is f2p. No black d'hide. Just green.

 

 

 

Most a F2Per ever hit with range was 18 - mage was 16 - and melee was a rare 33. Revenants are overpowered in F2P.

 

Ok, feel free to argue with my point. FTP or PTP, let me know how 'overpowered' this is:

 

#1, see yellow dot

 

#2, put on range prayer

 

#3, run for a tree

 

#4, possibly get hit once for 1-25

 

#5, world hop

 

 

 

What part about this in FTP is overepowered? They are lucky to get a single hit on you, so unless they start hitting 99s you have no chance whatsoever to die. FTP pkers easily hit 25+, and news flash: Revenants CANNOT freeze you when you have protect from range on. Period.

Ok, feel free to argue with my point. FTP or PTP, let me know how 'overpowered' this is:

 

#1, see yellow dot --> which yellow dots? there are spiders near I see average 10 yellow dots

 

 

#2, put on range prayer --> yeh that would be only wise if you wheren't weilding full rune

 

 

#3, run for a tree --> first i'd like to mine the ore pretty please.... they aren't supposed to hitany hits through my prayer (well a small percentage) that is what prayer is for isn't it?

 

 

 

#4, possibly get hit once for 1-25 --> Make that get hit at least 4 time ranging from 10-30

 

 

 

#5, world hop --> the easy part yes, but now imagine u just blew up all your food, run and most of your rayer since 2 revs where following you, you world hop, you think you are safe and then land into the arms of the next revernant that kills you before you can do anything... Fair isn't it?

 

 

 

What part about this in FTP is overepowered? --> I think I justanswered that, too high hits that go through f2p prayer and which are actually p2p based

 

 

 

They are lucky to get a single hit on you, --> no they hit more on me

 

 

 

so unless they start hitting 99s you have no chance whatsoever to die. --> chances of death 1/15 runs

 

 

 

FTP pkers easily hit 25+ --> they don't if u use the appropiate prayers, watch it, they hit way less and more frequent a 0

 

 

 

and news flash: Revenants CANNOT freeze you when you have protect from range on. Period. --> bad news for you... they can... they can also tp block you with protection from magic on

Very simple. You pray range so that they can't freeze you, as their freezing attack is range based. Tell me, have you ever tried fighitng these? The second you see yourself attacked, you PRAY RANGE AND RUN TO THE TREE, getting hit once. Now your complaining that 'you don't get to mine your rune ore'? Oh yes, these evil monsters are so overpowered compared to PKers! You can't even manage to mine rune ore while your being attacked! I'm sure you could do that in the old wildy!

 

 

 

I shall repeat: Regardless of your armor, range prayer + running for a tree will result in you getting hit MAYBE once. Inconvenient? Perhaps. But rare, as much or more so as old time PKers.

Very simple. You pray range so that they can't freeze you, as their freezing attack is range based. Tell me, have you ever tried fighitng these? The second you see yourself attacked, you PRAY RANGE AND RUN TO THE TREE, getting hit once. Now your complaining that 'you don't get to mine your rune ore'? Oh yes, these evil monsters are so overpowered compared to PKers! You can't even manage to mine rune ore while your being attacked! I'm sure you could do that in the old wildy! Yes I could do that

 

 

 

I shall repeat: Regardless of your armor, range prayer + running for a tree will result in you getting hit MAYBE once. Inconvenient? Perhaps. But rare, as much or more so as old time PKers.

Wait... When an old-style level 126 PKer attacked you, you were able to mine your rune rock like normal? Something's wrong here...

Wait... When an old-style level 126 PKer attacked you, you were able to mine your rune rock like normal? Something's wrong here...

 

 

 

nope, in old pk-ing time even teams of 20 people with 100 cb+ couldn't kill me not even while running through the multi combat (unless they had 2-3 mages or more, which could bind) and while using your prayer you could not be harmed, ince that is what prayer is for... to protect you from attacks. Revernant attacks penetrate about 40% of the time whilst old pk-ers not even 1/10 attacks would harm me.

 

 

 

With 1-2 pk-ers I had plenty of time of mining the ore, run off and log out

Then I'm not sure what game your playing - 2 old style PKers could easily take down a defenseless miner, prayer only protects from 40% of PVP damage but protects 100% from monsters. I'm telling you now - protect from range and run behind the nearest tree means you'll get hit ONCE at most. Try it before you knock it.

 

Ok, feel free to argue with my point. FTP or PTP, let me know how 'overpowered' this is:

 

#1, see yellow dot

 

#2, put on range prayer

 

#3, run for a tree

 

#4, possibly get hit once for 1-25

 

#5, world hop

 

 

I'm not going to argue about what I don't know - if this works in F2P, then it works.

 

This style of fleeing is not the same as it was back versus normal pkers, but whatever.

 

 

 

 

What part about this in FTP is overepowered? They are lucky to get a single hit on you, so unless they start hitting 99s you have no chance whatsoever to die. FTP pkers easily hit 25+, and news flash: Revenants CANNOT freeze you when you have protect from range on. Period.

 

In F2P, there were very few instances in which you had to worry about getting 3 hit... If you wore full rune, then whoever attacked you would splash often - if they maged you, they would only hit 16s. If they ranged you, the would only hit 18s, and would splash often as well. You would not be frozen, either.

 

This is why revs are overpowered in F2P, whatever the context.

 

Ok, feel free to argue with my point. FTP or PTP, let me know how 'overpowered' this is:

 

#1, see yellow dot

 

#2, put on range prayer

 

#3, run for a tree

 

#4, possibly get hit once for 1-25

 

#5, world hop

 

 

I'm not going to argue about what I don't know - if this works in F2P, then it works.

 

This style of fleeing is not the same as it was back versus normal pkers, but whatever.

 

 

 

 

What part about this in FTP is overepowered? They are lucky to get a single hit on you, so unless they start hitting 99s you have no chance whatsoever to die. FTP pkers easily hit 25+, and news flash: Revenants CANNOT freeze you when you have protect from range on. Period.

 

In F2P, there were very few instances in which you had to worry about getting 3 hit... If you wore full rune, then whoever attacked you would splash often - if they maged you, they would only hit 16s. If they ranged you, the would only hit 18s, and would splash often as well. You would not be frozen, either.

 

This is why revs are overpowered in F2P, whatever the context.

 

Yes, and if you stand under an anvil in RL it can crush you in 1 hit. As for these, simply running behind a tree means you'll at most get hit once, and rarely be hit at all. Try a few tactics.

Comp I already tried these tectics, they work, but theyare not satisfying. The fact is not that with tactics you can evade their attacks easier, the fact is that they can hit harder, and in a more nastier way then any other creatures possible and yes these hit THROUGH your prayer, they ice you even with protection from range prayer (I tested it).

I totally agree, I go into the wilderness in f2p, I get murdered by revenants, they're underpowered in PTP but a little unfair in FTP, They only get GREEN d'hide which is about 60 magic defence? Gl defending with that -.-

I too, despise revenants. I raise my cooking at the Bandit Camp in the wild. And all it takes is 1 revenant to ruin the whole experience for me, hitting 10s almost every time and regenerating health every time I miss. It's worse than fighting a boss! D:

 

I wish the HP at least be cut back (in half or by 1/4), and everything remain the same, that way you can actually win against them.

hmm well i never actualyl tried them in f2p, in p2p they're a joke....see a couple good points from either side tho....