Buying a new computer.. tell me what you think!

[Quinton595]

AHA! THAT's what I was wondering about, the original person who told me to get the Nvida GEforce 9800 said it it could max out the graphics on Crysis Warhead. Is this true?

 

 

 

By the way, on the first post on the main page, Ive listed, and will continually list the pieces that i KNOW im getting, based on your opinions, and one by one, I'll have a list of what im gonna get!

[Vansing]

I have a 4850 and can play most games with max graphics. The only games I've tried that i can't put the graphics up on are Crysis and GTA IV ;)

 

 

 

GTA IV being that it's pretty damn poorly optimized on a lot of rigs. I'd be interested to know though what your CPU is if you can't max out Crysis (I can max it out on a 9600GT and get 30FPS. Crysis wars can get 45FPS).

 

My CPU is an Intel core 2 duo @ 3.16Ghz, that might be it although i haven't tried Crysis in a few months and have updated my drivers since then :-k

 

I think i had the settings on mid-high and the game lagged at some points, but I can't remember too well.

 

 

 

Edit: Almost forgot, I have Crysis Warhead not the original, not sure if that would make a difference or not as i never tried the first one on my PC.

[Quinton595]

Ok.. Well I'm not even a person who would play Crysis, i was just using it as a stand-point.

 

 

 

Would the 4850 be able to play, with good graphics:

 

 

 

Spore

 

Halo

 

WoW

 

EVE-Online

 

 

 

NOTE: Ok.. i was trying to do SOMETHING myself, and i found this case

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6811208020

 

Its Wicked looking, got tons of drive slots, both internal, and external, 3 fans, and lots of space for the wires and the motherboard. Is it good enough to buy? It's also really cheap, which i need.

[Vansing]

You could play all of those games with graphics on full, no problem :)

[Quinton595]

Ok.. this is the risky part, cause it's again, the part i want the most for my comp.

 

 

 

Could you give me the Name, and the other info for That card, that we were just talking about?

 

 

 

It will be on the front page, 1st post. Btw, what do you think of the case?

[Vansing]

ATI Radeon HD 4850 is the name, what other info is it that you need?

 

I don't know much about cases and which are good ones to pick so I'm not sure about yours ;)

[Quinton595]

Ok.. just one last detail, which companies are, "very generally speaking" good graphic card

 

companies?

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh.. one problem.. i went to newegg, and searched that name.. and i got about 20 different card, from different companies, with different features.. but they were all the Ati 4850 thing.. which to get?

[Vansing]

I'm not sure about the difference between the companies that make the same card, I guess the most expensive would be best. Also, some of them will have more memory, mine has 512mb but I think it goes up to 1GB for this card. Just go with whatever you can afford, generally it's a good card ;)

[Jason321]

Ok.. just one last detail, which companies are, "very generally speaking" good graphic card

 

companies?

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh.. one problem.. i went to newegg, and searched that name.. and i got about 20 different card, from different companies, with different features.. but they were all the Ati 4850 thing.. which to get?

 

 

 

It doesn't really matter which one you get. I personally have an Asus one which has excellent cooling (if you've seen it, it has a massive fan). Personally I'd get one with 512MB of memory as apposed to the 1GB version because there really isn't much difference.

 

 

 

Basically the card differences are that they're overclocked (Higher clock speed), different cooling methods (Dual slot cooling, different fans, etc.) and that's really it. Read the reviews, look at the prices, and just choose one you like.

[Quinton595]

Ok.. just one last detail, which companies are, "very generally speaking" good graphic card

 

companies?

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh.. one problem.. i went to newegg, and searched that name.. and i got about 20 different card, from different companies, with different features.. but they were all the Ati 4850 thing.. which to get?

 

 

 

It doesn't really matter which one you get. I personally have an Asus one which has excellent cooling (if you've seen it, it has a massive fan). Personally I'd get one with 512MB of memory as apposed to the 1GB version because there really isn't much difference.

 

 

 

Basically the card differences are that they're overclocked (Higher clock speed), different cooling methods (Dual slot cooling, different fans, etc.) and that's really it. Read the reviews, look at the prices, and just choose one you like.

 

 

 

I think this one's yours :lol:

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814121272

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the ones I've been looking at:

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814131125

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814102760

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814127370

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814129112

 

And Jason's one as well.

 

 

 

Which would you guys recommend?

 

 

 

Now those are all 512mb.. but in some comments, i noticed them saying something about 4870, and it being much better than the 4850, is this true?

 

EDIT-- I searched the 4970 one.. and the price jumped up as far as $400. So that's out of the question.

 

 

 

Also.. i notice people saying some cards can get quite.. toasty. in excess of 80c is this potentially dangerous to the card? What COULD happen if it overheated? Because the last thing i want to do is spend $200, and have it melt away.. *Quite litterally :lol: *

 

 

 

Jason- how would you rate your card? is it hot? Has it lasted long?

[OldJoe]

Powercolor.

 

 

 

4870 is the next card after 4850, it all depends on how much you're gaming, what resolution and how much eye-candy you want. Read a review or two about the cards.

 

ATI designed the cards to run on low fan noise (the stock fan speed is around 30%) so it doesn't sound like a jumbo-jet. They get hot, yes, but they won't break on full load, you can easily fix this by turning the fan speed up in Catalyst or Rivatuner.

 

If it would die because of you using it properly and you got you warranty period left, you'll get it replaced.

[Quinton595]

Ok, il do some more research into the Catalyst thing just for future reference. how hot should a card be under load? and.. what is considered load?

 

 

 

And one more thing, which, out of the 5 cards i listed, would you say is best?

[Jason321]

Also.. i notice people saying some cards can get quite.. toasty. in excess of 80c is this potentially dangerous to the card? What COULD happen if it overheated? Because the last thing i want to do is spend $200, and have it melt away.. *Quite litterally :lol: *

 

 

 

Jason- how would you rate your card? is it hot? Has it lasted long?

 

 

 

The HD48XX series was designed to cope with the hot temperatures the cards produce so as long as you have decent airflow in your case, you shouldn't have a problem. My card runs just fine and I've only had it for a month so I can't really comment on the reliability or durability of the card.

 

 

 

Sorry if you've already stated this, but what size monitor are you using? 22" or lower a HD4850 512Mb will do you fine. Once you get to 24" and above you might want to get a HD4870 or higher. Anyways, I agree with what Joe said and Powercolor are an excellent brand.

 

 

 

Also, keep in mind the release of AMD's new CPU's - they look very promising. PSU looks good, will run everything fine. If you're looking for some headroom consider something like an Antec NeoPower 550W (Modular) or even a 520HX (Modular) They are both built by Seasonic so they are of excellent quality. Case is excellent as well. Good airflow and cooling, nice choice. I'd personally go with a Western Digital hard drive but that's up to you.

 

 

 

RAM is good, Corsair are a good brand. I prefer Pioneer optical drives - they've always been good to me. Could consider an Asus board but that is an excellent Motherboard. I am a Gigabyte man myself but I'm just trying to keep your options open. And to answer your latest question, I can't really say. All of them are good, reliable brands.

[Quinton595]

Also.. i notice people saying some cards can get quite.. toasty. in excess of 80c is this potentially dangerous to the card? What COULD happen if it overheated? Because the last thing i want to do is spend $200, and have it melt away.. *Quite litterally :lol: *

 

 

 

Jason- how would you rate your card? is it hot? Has it lasted long?

 

 

 

The HD48XX series was designed to cope with the hot temperatures the cards produce so as long as you have decent airflow in your case, you shouldn't have a problem. My card runs just fine and I've only had it for a month so I can't really comment on the reliability or durability of the card.

 

 

 

Sorry if you've already stated this, but what size monitor are you using? 22" or lower a HD4850 512Mb will do you fine. Once you get to 24" and above you might want to get a HD4870 or higher. Anyways, I agree with what Joe said and Powercolor are an excellent brand.

 

 

 

Also, keep in mind the release of AMD's new CPU's - they look very promising. PSU looks good, will run everything fine. If you're looking for some headroom consider something like an Antec NeoPower 550W (Modular) or even a 520HX (Modular) They are both built by Seasonic so they are of excellent quality. Case is excellent as well. Good airflow and cooling, nice choice. I'd personally go with a Western Digital hard drive but that's up to you.

 

 

 

RAM is good, Corsair are a good brand. I prefer Pioneer optical drives - they've always been good to me. Could consider an Asus board but that is an excellent Motherboard. I am a Gigabyte man myself but I'm just trying to keep your options open. And to answer your latest question, I can't really say. All of them are good, reliable brands.

 

 

 

 

 

*whistles*

 

Wow.. i was watching your name at the bottom of the "who's browsing this forum" section, and by how long your name was there.. i knew you were going to type something informative.

 

 

 

I was right :lol:

 

 

 

So.. let me think of all this stuff.

 

 

 

Screen size:22"

 

 

 

Cooling fans in the CASE alone : 3 = well ventillated

 

 

 

Temperature: not a problem

 

 

 

Card to get: 4850

 

 

 

Card company: 1 vote by you on Powercolor

 

 

 

Power Supply: I like the 520HX

 

 

 

Remaining questions: Is it possible to have a power supply that's too strong for the CPU?

[Jason321]

Too powerful for the CPU? You mean too powerful for the whole computer? Well there are cases such as overkill. For example buying a 1000W Power Supply to run a setup like yours when really that Power Supply could handle something far more superior (Tri-SLi for example).

 

 

 

I don't think you can have a Power Supply too powerful for a computer but you might want someone more experienced than me to confirm this. The 520HX is an excellent choice BTW, I don't have it myself but the fact that it's modular and 80%+ efficiency you can tell that it's an awesome Power Supply. It's also one of the most quietest if that effects you.

[Nadril]

No such thing as "too much power". Of course it'd be a waste of money but that's another story all together.

 

 

 

 

 

For video card brands I love ASUS, EVGA and MSI a lot.

[Quinton595]

Ok. So power can not harm the computer.. its just a waste of energy.

 

 

 

Now, you went on newegg.com, so it was American priced, i went to .ca, and it was 20$ more. I hate to be a money-saver here, but i went out looking for cheaper ones.

 

 

 

I found 4 extra ones, on top of the one you showed me, which i might still get anyways.

 

 

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817153028

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817182159

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817226002

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817341012

 

 

 

Me, personally, i like the SIGMA black and blue one. Decent price, and it has a lot of "tech-y" features like fins that protrude to dissipate heat.

 

 

 

And i might still get yours, but out of the 4 here, are any of them as good or better than yours?

 

 

 

I've decided to leave the video cards till the very last post this thread will have, because i have a feeling it will take longer to decide

 

 

 

Starting on the next section : Memory

 

 

 

Now i found this one:

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820145184

 

4gb, the other information i cant understand -.- and it had a whopping 741 reviews, and they were for 5/5.

 

 

 

What do you think?

[OldJoe]

With reliable brands such as Corsair, FSP, Enermax, SeaSonic etc... You can't go wrong. They all differ, but read reviews (once again....).

 

The OCZ one then, dunno if the 600 and 500 differs in quality, but the 600 has gotten good reviews so you should be fine with it. Pretty nice price on it too.

 

There's no point in getting that one with 635w.

 

 

 

I listed the memories because they are good and cheap. As i don't think you'll be overclocking you won't need any faster.

 

I will take my time and list some video cards with price/performance, then i'll get back to cleaning my room.

 

Sub 100$ you have 4670, but i think you want more juice (atleast that's how i've understood).

 

Then for 122 you have.4830, which perform a tiny bit better than 9/8800gt http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814102803

 

For 170$ you have 4850 (HIS and Powercolor, both good) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814161259

 

I'm not trying to push ATI product onto you, but the fact is that on the canadian newegg they are the most priceworthy. If you want Nvidia you'll have to pay more for the same performance.

 

Really, if you don't know what to get: Read reviews!!

[Quinton595]

With reliable brands such as Corsair, FSP, Enermax, SeaSonic etc... You can't go wrong. They all differ, but read reviews (once again....).

 

The OCZ one then, dunno if the 600 and 500 differs in quality, but the 600 has gotten good reviews so you should be fine with it. Pretty nice price on it too.

 

There's no point in getting that one with 635w.

 

 

 

I listed the memories because they are good and cheap. As i don't think you'll be overclocking you won't need any faster.

 

I will take my time and list some video cards with price/performance, then i'll get back to cleaning my room.

 

Sub 100$ you have 4670, but i think you want more juice (atleast that's how i've understood).

 

Then for 122 you have.4830, which perform a tiny bit better than 9/8800gt http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814102803

 

For 170$ you have 4850 (HIS and Powercolor, both good) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814161259

 

I'm not trying to push ATI product onto you, but the fact is that on the canadian newegg they are the most priceworthy. If you want Nvidia you'll have to pay more for the same performance.

 

Really, if you don't know what to get: Read reviews!!

 

 

 

Hehe.. i can always count on joe, nadril, and jason for nice posts.

 

 

 

So, you recommend the OCZ. The nice blue shark is too powerful, and you recommend the

 

powercolor and HIS. (That's 2 votes for powercolor now.)

 

 

 

Power supply: I went back to the stealth, and i looked at all the pictures. There were only about 4 cables, which worries me. The main power cable, and 3 different little ones. Now, if you look at the Thermaltake http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817153028

 

Its the same voltage, but it has more cables, or at least, more of the smaller ones. It also has a higher rating than the stealth. Do you still recommend the stealth?

 

 

 

Video Card: That's--

 

 

 

Powercolor - 2

 

HIS - 1

 

Sapphier - 0

 

MSI - 0

 

Vision Tek - 0

 

Asus - 0

 

 

 

Based on the original 5 that I found.

 

 

 

Il wait a bit longer.. as i would like something like 5 votes on a card; but that can wait.

 

 

 

What do you guys think about that memory? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820145184

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next section - Drives

 

 

 

 

 

Hard Disk : I really didn't know where to go with that.. cause i keep hearing the word SATA, but i don't know what it is.

 

 

 

Optical Drives : This was a bit better, I wanted a DVD and CD burner. And a DVD and CD Reader.

 

(This is assuming that burner's cant read)

 

 

 

Burner (DVD) :

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6827151171 -- Samsung (Good company) 22X read. $30.49

 

 

Reader (DVD & CD)

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6827135176 -- Asus, 18X DVD read, 48X CD read. $24.49

 

 

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6827106261 -- LiteOn 16X DVD read (Less than the Asus aforementioned) 48X CD read (Same as the Asus aforementioned). $21.99

 

 

 

DVD reader and CD Burner (I think)

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6827106100 -- LiteOn 16X DVD read,

 

52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW, 52X CD-ROM, SATA. (<-- ??) $28.49

[OldJoe]

The brand doesn't matter that much. Cooling, oc, warranty etc can differ... But it's cheap and it's a good brand, that's why i recommend it.

 

MSI is probably not a brand i'd buy from, since their capacitors&etc can vary in quality.

 

Really, Asus/Sapphire/Powercolor/HIS etc... All make good stuff.

 

 

 

I said the OCZ one because it got a very good price, the Sigma one is probably good, but it's more expensive and you don't need 635w for your build (if you're wondering why i recommended a Corsair 650w one to jearkdood, it's because it had a very nice price).

 

The OCZ psu don't got 4 cables.

 

"1 x 20+4-pin ATX

 

1 x 4-pin CPU

 

1 x 6-pin PCI-E

 

2 x SATA

 

4 x Peripheral

 

1 x Floppy"

 

More cables doesn't mean more fun! Take a look at my psu in the "computer picture thread" and you'll see more cables isn't always better (ok, i got a bad case but anyways), a big reason to buy a modular psu.

 

I can't say if the OCZ is good or bad, because i haven't owned one, but it's brother, the 600w one has gotten good reviews.

 

SATA is the name of the bus that transfers data between the motherboard - harddrive/optical drive...

 

Here's an optical drive for you... http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6827151179

 

I've already listed a harddrive for you...

 

 

 

I don't really understand why you gotta make so many pages of this, i made a complete computer on the first page. Sure, you can change whatever you want but i don't understand the idea of going piece by piece. If someone mentions another hardware option, you can check out that and compare them in a review and make up your mind which ones the best.

[Quinton595]

The brand doesn't matter that much. Cooling, oc, warranty etc can differ... But it's cheap and it's a good brand, that's why i recommend it.

 

MSI is probably not a brand i'd buy from, since their capacitors&etc can vary in quality.

 

Really, Asus/Sapphire/Powercolor/HIS etc... All make good stuff.

 

 

 

I said the OCZ one because it got a very good price, the Sigma one is probably good, but it's more expensive and you don't need 635w for your build (if you're wondering why i recommended a Corsair 650w one to jearkdood, it's because it had a very nice price).

 

The OCZ psu don't got 4 cables.

 

"1 x 20+4-pin ATX

 

1 x 4-pin CPU

 

1 x 6-pin PCI-E

 

2 x SATA

 

4 x Peripheral

 

1 x Floppy"

 

More cables doesn't mean more fun! Take a look at my psu in the "computer picture thread" and you'll see more cables isn't always better (ok, i got a base case but anyways), a big reason to buy a modular psu.

 

I can't say if the OCZ is good or bad, because i haven't owned one, but it's brother, the 600w one has gotten good reviews.

 

SATA is the name of the bus that transfers data between the motherboard - harddrive/optical drive...

 

Here's an optical drive for you... http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6827151179

 

I've already listed a harddrive for you...

 

 

 

I don't really understand why you gotta make so many pages of this, i made a complete computer on the first page. Sure, you can change whatever you want but i don't understand the idea of going piece by piece. If someone mentions another hardware option, you can check out that and compare them in a review and make up your mind which ones the best.

 

 

 

Ok, the optical drive first, its that one i had on my wishlist, which is good. Can it Brun DVDs, as well as CDs? And does that automatically mean it can read them as well?

 

 

 

The Power supply, i understand about the wires, but what happens if i don't have enough for all the "things" in the computer? Would that even happen? Because im only having one of each thing

 

 

 

Motherboard

 

Hard drive

 

Optical drive

 

Video card ( if that even takes power)

 

The Case Fans

 

and I think that's it.. all the rest just attaches to the motherboard

 

 

 

do you think the stealth would have enough? based on the pictures of the cables?

 

 

 

And for that last little bit.. I have a tendency to review things hundreds of times before i make my decision. By doing one part at a time, i can make sure im getting the right one. If i pick one, and someone suggests something else, id have to then compare them again, and it would keep happening till a found a "godly" one.

 

 

 

Hope you don't mind about the huge thread :

[OldJoe]

There's something called "specs" next to customer reviews where it states what you get. Yes, it can read and burn, dvd and cd.

 

It has enough things for a gaming computer. If you need more sata or pci-e connectors you have some molex to play around with.

 

If you want something that you don't need adapters for - get another psu. As i said, because of it's price it's pretty sweet.

 

Here you have another psu if you don't want that OCZ http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817104034

 

This and the Corsair one i mentioned earlier have more options than the OCZ, but they are a bit more expensiver.

[Quinton595]

There's something called "specs" next to customer reviews where it states what you get. Yes, it can read and burn, dvd and cd.

 

It has enough things for a gaming computer. If you need more sata or pci-e connectors you have some molex to play around with.

 

If you want something that you don't need adapters for - get another psu. As i said, because of it's price it's pretty sweet.

 

Here you have another psu if you don't want that OCZ http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817104034

 

This and the Corsair one i mentioned earlier have more options than the OCZ, but they are a bit more expensiver.

 

 

 

 

 

Yay, I can add the optical drive to the front page post, now that I know that I'm getting it.

 

 

 

PSU - That Blue Storm one is pretty nice.. but here's where i really need your help. Do you know which cables i would need for:

 

 

 

1 Motherboard

 

1 Optical drive

 

1 Hard drive

 

The case fans (3 of em)

 

1 graphic card (if that even takes power)

 

 

 

Because the stealth might already have enough. and it looks like a more reliable buy than the Blue Storm.

[OldJoe]

Motherboard (depends on the mobo) uses the mainconnector 20 or 24 pin.

 

Optical drive uses one sata, harddrive another sata.

 

The case fans usually goes into the motherboard, but (if i remember right) if they draw more than 3w each you should connect them to the psu instead. But 80 and slower 120mm are just to plug into the mobo.

 

The graphic cards, depends on which you choose. If you choose the 4850 it will use one 6pin pci-e connector.

 

 

 

You should never judge on how it looks. FSP is a really good brand, they build quality stuff. On the OCZ psu you had 4 molex connectors if my memory serves me right, which can be used to connect to a bigger graphics card (such a 4870) or more hd's.

[Quinton595]

Motherboard (depends on the mobo) uses the mainconnector 20 or 24 pin.

 

Optical drive uses one sata, harddrive another sata.

 

The case fans usually goes into the motherboard, but (if i remember right) if they draw more than 3w each you should connect them to the psu instead. But 80 and slower 120mm are just to plug into the mobo.

 

The graphic cards, depends on which you choose. If you choose the 4850 it will use one 6pin pci-e connector.

 

 

 

You should never judge on how it looks. FSP is a really good brand, they build quality stuff. On the OCZ psu you had 4 molex connectors if my memory serves me right, which can be used to connect to a bigger graphics card (such a 4870) or more hd's.

 

 

 

Ahh, that's what i needed

 

 

 

so:

 

20-24 pin X1

 

Sata connectors X2

 

6 pin pic-e connector X1

 

If i upgrade my card i'd need a Molex connector.

 

 

 

So as long as it has the first 3 types, im good.

 

 

 

So looking at the stealth

 

It has everything i need, except the molex, and it has 4 peripherals.

 

After all that, I think im going to get the Xclio 500W. but what are the perip-s plugs for?

 

Imma chose the Xcilo over the stealth because the reviews are better, and it comes with additional cables that are in a separate bag.

 

 

 

One last comment i would like on it, has anyone heard anything good about Xcilo? Cause from all the reviews, it seems like a good buy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next Section.

 

 

 

Thankfully, i am approaching the end, as i am adding more and more pieces to the front page list.

 

 

 

Only a couple of things remain. First:

 

 

 

RAM. I would like 4gb, and good quality. Thankfully, i found just that. Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) -$67.29 The reason i choose this is because it has 741 reviews, and they mostly all good. (Overall rating is 5/5) And It's also the one that most people bought. However, i don't know the speed, because i cant understand what the numbers represent.

 

 

 

Anyone think it's a good buy?

 

 

 

And the other thing i want to start, leaving the last 3 till the end (Megaboard, Graph- Card, Hard disk) is the processor. You guys have already convinced me to go Quad, but now for the actual piece. I would like 2.6 Ghz Minimum.

 

 

 

Now, Just by looking at the quads, i can tell its going to be an expensive piece. Here are the only two that i would even consider buying.

 

 

 

At 2.66Ghz, and for 329dollars, with a 6mb cache,

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115131

 

 

 

And the upgraded version, 2.83Ghz, and for 390 dollars, with a 12mb cache, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115131

 

 

 

Now i am willing to pay the extra little bit for the 2.83 one, but there are couple things that confuse me.

 

 

 

Cache: I see it all the time, but i don't know what it does, and what its for.

 

 

 

The other numbers in the names of the processors:

 

 

 

2.83Ghz one:

 

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor

 

 

 

2.66Ghz one:

 

Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor

 

 

 

Anyone able to help?