Tanks are over powered.

[OnIIx]

I'll keep it short and sweet.

 

 

 

A Range tank can be 104 Combat 99 Range/99 Defence/44 Prayer.

 

 

 

Invincible to their level range, hit amazingly high and accurate, a maxed Zerker pure would be ripped in 1/2 a secound, like they'd even hit on 99 Defence.

 

 

 

Even higher lvls can't bring them down, Range gives to little combat.

 

And is 400K an hour when rich, 70K an hour when average, 99 Range looks a breeze with Xfering..

 

 

 

And yes, 1 Defense pures get ripped the most (Rune Knifes/Dragon Darts).

 

 

 

Thanks :)

[pureprayer]

STFU :evil:

 

 

 

First Ancient pures are over powered, Then rune pures are over powered, NOW its TANKS that are over powered.

[OnIIx]

Ancient Pures? 1 Def and 94 Magic? Put on Dhide Crossbow and watch em cry.

 

 

 

Rune Pures ARE ANYTHING BUT OVER POWERED.

 

 

 

They sacrifised DEFENCE for OFFENSIVE stats.

 

 

 

Tanks got THE BEST DEFENSE AND OFFENSIVE stats.

 

 

 

Timmy and had 99 Def and 99 Range

 

Paul had 45 Defence, 99 Strength and 85 attack.

 

 

 

Okay, Paul has lower Accuracey, max'es 45ish with a Whip, while TIMMY can max 63 with Dbolts(e), risks LESS (Dhide, C'bow, Bolts), just 80kish, Paul risks.

 

 

 

50K Zereker Helm

 

110K Plate and Legs

 

Barrows RFD 100K or Rune RFD 5K

 

Whip (Protected)

 

DDS (40K)

 

Strength Amulet (2K)

 

Super Set (7K These add up :S).

 

 

 

Also Timmy has basically the best offensive outfit, just under a 20M one (Armydal), with a Verac's/Torag's Helm which, well, Extremely defensive.

[pureprayer]

Ancient Pures? 1 Def and 94 Magic? Put on Dhide Crossbow and watch em cry.

 

Yes but they would only be facing 70- rangers or ranges with no defense.

 

Rune Pures ARE ANYTHING BUT OVER POWERED.

 

Rune pures were once good

 

They sacrifised DEFENCE for OFFENSIVE stats.

 

 

 

Tanks got THE BEST DEFENSE AND OFFENSIVE stats.

 

 

 

Timmy and had 99 Def and 99 Range

 

Paul had 45 Defence, 99 Strength and 85 attack.

 

 

 

Okay, Paul has lower Accuracey, max'es 45ish with a Whip, while TIMMY can max 63 with Dbolts(e), risks LESS (Dhide, C'bow, Bolts), just 80kish, Paul risks.

 

 

 

50K Zereker Helm

 

110K Plate and Legs

 

Barrows RFD 100K or Rune RFD 5K

 

Whip (Protected)

 

DDS (40K)

 

Strength Amulet (2K)

 

Super Set (7K These add up :S).

 

 

 

Also Timmy has basically the best offensive outfit, just under a 20M one (Armydal), with a Verac's/Torag's Helm which, well, Extremely defensive.And paul wears a anti-dragon fire shield

[OnIIx]

Rune Pures were good. Correct. Now all Pures are usless and the Tank overpowers all.

 

 

 

This thread is NOT about Ancient Pures, never fought one, never will fight one.

 

 

 

T A N K S - A R E - O V E R P O W E R E D

 

 

 

Not about ancient Pures (P.S. their HP is so low, a person with 60 Range could 1 hit em')

[pureprayer]

Rune Pures were good. Correct. Now all Pures are usless and the Tank overpowers all.

 

 

 

This thread is NOT about Ancient Pures, never fought one, never will fight one.

 

 

 

T A N K S - A R E - O V E R P O W E R E D

 

 

 

Not about ancient Pures (P.S. their HP is so low, a person with 60 Range could 1 hit em')

 

 

 

R S - P L A Y E R S - A R E - O V E R P O W E R E D

 

 

 

yah thay got da attak nd da str and defens like wut dey have foods alsos.

 

 

 

1st you need 61 not 60 range for a rune cross bow, 2nd dragon fire bolts can be stopped with an anti dragon fire shield. 3rd Tanks = full rune/torags. Mages = Ice Barrage and have same hits/defense of range tanks.

 

 

 

Its an EQUAL BATTLE mages also can far cast one more spot than rangers.

[OnIIx]

Rune Pures were good. Correct. Now all Pures are usless and the Tank overpowers all.

 

 

 

This thread is NOT about Ancient Pures, never fought one, never will fight one.

 

 

 

T A N K S - A R E - O V E R P O W E R E D

 

 

 

Not about ancient Pures (P.S. their HP is so low, a person with 60 Range could 1 hit em')

 

 

 

R S - P L A Y E R S - A R E - O V E R P O W E R E D lol wut?

 

 

 

yah thay got da attak nd da str and defens like wut dey have foods alsos. Nice sarcasm

 

 

 

1st you need 61 not 60 range for a rune cross bow, 2nd dragon fire bolts can be stopped with an anti dragon fire shield Defender VS anti Dragon Shield, hmm, . 3rd Tanks = full rune/torags So they can't use Ava? Let me guess, they got Full 3A range in their Invy with your Logic. Mages = Ice Barrage and have same hits/defense of range tanks. - I'm talking about Maxed out Tanks.

 

 

 

Its an EQUAL BATTLE mages also can far cast one more spot than rangers. Dhide = Mage defence, Ahrims = Melee Defence, seriousally, P.S. The further you Farcast the faster they become unfrozen

[pureprayer]

So they can't use Ava?

 

 

 

Cut out from an earlier argument and I took ava to be arma.

[Omali]

Tanks are powerful, that's because they're designed to be. There are tanks in every rpg available, it's a tactic.

 

 

 

And yes, 1 Defense pures get ripped the most (Rune Knifes/Dragon Darts).

 

 

 

Nobody cares what pures think about combat. That's like asking someone who dodges paying taxes what they think about a tax increase.

[Inuashakent]

Training a tank isn't that fast, considering you can't transfer money between accounts anymore. Well, technically, you never could, but everybody did anyways.

[compfreak847]

Training a tank isn't that fast, considering you can't transfer money between accounts anymore. Well, technically, you never could, but everybody did anyways.

 

Range training is faster and cheaper XP then melee, and you only have to train one skill. A tank is crazily overpowered, I've posted this many times but never thought of a rant. As a maxed melee player, I have lost to a range tank and defeated other maxed players as one. Do you think a 45 defence rune pure could do that? No, they'd lose instantly. A 99 ranger can hit on 45 defence faster then they can eat. They don't stand a chance. And the rangers get cheap armor and weapons with huge bonuses, crazily high hits, and great KOing potential. Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

[pureprayer]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

[compfreak847]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

 

No, it doesn't. Tanks can risk less and deal more damage per minute. Plus they have vengance and high prayer.

[pureprayer]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

 

No, it doesn't. Tanks can risk less and deal more damage per minute. Plus they have vengance and high prayer.

 

Well in BH rangers have no bind/barrage so they get screwed most of the times.

 

 

 

Also OP said rangers would be using arma so thatsa risk.

[compfreak847]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

 

No, it doesn't. Tanks can risk less and deal more damage per minute. Plus they have vengance and high prayer.

 

Well in BH rangers have no bind/barrage so they get screwed most of the times.

 

 

 

Also OP said rangers would be using arma so thatsa risk.

 

err... most meleers can't bind or barrage either? A pure mage doesn't stand a chance against a tank ranger here.

 

 

 

And they aren't going to be wearing arma in BH -.-

[pureprayer]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

 

No, it doesn't. Tanks can risk less and deal more damage per minute. Plus they have vengance and high prayer.

 

Well in BH rangers have no bind/barrage so they get screwed most of the times.

 

 

 

Also OP said rangers would be using arma so thatsa risk.

 

err... most meleers can't bind or barrage either? A pure mage doesn't stand a chance against a tank ranger here.

 

 

 

And they aren't going to be wearing arma in BH -.-

 

That arma statement came from op.

 

 

 

Rangers dont have THAT good of a KO especially when they are tanking so many times they dont get the kill in bh.

[compfreak847]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

 

No, it doesn't. Tanks can risk less and deal more damage per minute. Plus they have vengance and high prayer.

 

Well in BH rangers have no bind/barrage so they get screwed most of the times.

 

 

 

Also OP said rangers would be using arma so thatsa risk.

 

err... most meleers can't bind or barrage either? A pure mage doesn't stand a chance against a tank ranger here.

 

 

 

And they aren't going to be wearing arma in BH -.-

 

That arma statement came from op.

 

 

 

Rangers dont have THAT good of a KO especially when they are tanking so many times they dont get the kill in bh.

 

Err... Show me where the OP said the tank had to wear arma in BH. Rangers can hit 60+, and will hit almost every time on 45 defence, faster then they can eat. Yet they have a huge slash defence, 99 defence, and vengance so a dd++ will virtually never hit on them. They have vastly superior offensive power, including KOs.

[pureprayer]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

 

No, it doesn't. Tanks can risk less and deal more damage per minute. Plus they have vengance and high prayer.

 

Well in BH rangers have no bind/barrage so they get screwed most of the times.

 

 

 

Also OP said rangers would be using arma so thatsa risk.

 

err... most meleers can't bind or barrage either? A pure mage doesn't stand a chance against a tank ranger here.

 

 

 

And they aren't going to be wearing arma in BH -.-

 

That arma statement came from op.

 

 

 

Rangers dont have THAT good of a KO especially when they are tanking so many times they dont get the kill in bh.

 

Err... Show me where the OP said the tank had to wear arma in BH. Rangers can hit 60+, and will hit almost every time on 45 defence, faster then they can eat. Yet they have a huge slash defence, 99 defence, and vengance so a dd++ will virtually never hit on them. They have vastly superior offensive power, including KOs.

 

So they can't use Ava?

 

 

 

Cut out from an earlier argument and I took ava to be arma.

 

 

 

Also I am assuming you are a mage/tank with about the same stats. If you can fit a Veracs skirt and Torag Chest (99 def) with maxed mage bonus elsewhere you have barrage and mismic barrage and depending on what armour they use it could be a close fight(or the mager running out early) :wall:

[compfreak847]

Range tanks are the undisputed champions of 105- PKing.

 

Depends where bh or pvp, and spending limit.

 

No, it doesn't. Tanks can risk less and deal more damage per minute. Plus they have vengance and high prayer.

 

Well in BH rangers have no bind/barrage so they get screwed most of the times.

 

 

 

Also OP said rangers would be using arma so thatsa risk.

 

err... most meleers can't bind or barrage either? A pure mage doesn't stand a chance against a tank ranger here.

 

 

 

And they aren't going to be wearing arma in BH -.-

 

That arma statement came from op.

 

 

 

Rangers dont have THAT good of a KO especially when they are tanking so many times they dont get the kill in bh.

 

Err... Show me where the OP said the tank had to wear arma in BH. Rangers can hit 60+, and will hit almost every time on 45 defence, faster then they can eat. Yet they have a huge slash defence, 99 defence, and vengance so a dd++ will virtually never hit on them. They have vastly superior offensive power, including KOs.

 

So they can't use Ava?

 

 

 

Cut out from an earlier argument and I took ava to be arma.

 

 

 

Also I am assuming you are a mage/tank with about the same stats. If you can fit a Veracs skirt and Torag Chest (99 def) with maxed mage bonus elsewhere you have barrage and mismic barrage and depending on what armour they use it could be a close fight(or the mager running out early) :wall:

 

His magic bonus is going to be far too low to hit on the ranger, and he's risking way too much with a 5m Zuriel staff.

[pureprayer]

What armour is the ranger using?

[compfreak847]

What armour is the ranger using?

 

D hide body, torag\rune helm, torag's platelegs, ava's accumulator, glory ammy, DFS w\ protect item or rune kite if your scared, snakeskin boots, ring of recoil, rune gloves or d hide vambs, 50 diamond\dragonfire bolts (e), venges + a prayer pot in inventory, +15% range, smite and\or defence prayer.

[pureprayer]

What armour is the ranger using?

 

D hide body, torag\rune helm, torag's platelegs, ava's accumulator, glory ammy, DFS w\ protect item or rune kite if your scared, snakeskin boots, ring of recoil, rune gloves or d hide vambs, 50 diamond\dragonfire bolts (e), venges + a prayer pot in inventory, +15% range, smite and\or defence prayer.

 

 

 

[hide=][/hide] 8-)

 

 

 

[hide=][/hide]

 

 

 

You win I give up. As long as the tank is from tif and has an iq of over 150 it will be a good tank.

 

 

 

It was fun but i dont want to dig my self into a deeper hole.

 

 

 

i dont see much use of ranting about it.

[compfreak847]

What armour is the ranger using?

 

D hide body, torag\rune helm, torag's platelegs, ava's accumulator, glory ammy, DFS w\ protect item or rune kite if your scared, snakeskin boots, ring of recoil, rune gloves or d hide vambs, 50 diamond\dragonfire bolts (e), venges + a prayer pot in inventory, +15% range, smite and\or defence prayer.

 

 

 

[hide=][/hide] 8-)

 

 

 

[hide=][/hide]

 

 

 

You win I give up. As long as the tank is from tif and has an iq of over 150 it will be a good tank.

 

 

 

It was fun but i dont want to dig my self into a deeper hole.

 

 

 

i dont see much use of ranting about it.

 

IQ of 150? That's like .0001% of the population. My IQ is below 150. The average IQ is 100, and that's fine for a range tank. What's there to know?

[pureprayer]

What armour is the ranger using?

 

D hide body, torag\rune helm, torag's platelegs, ava's accumulator, glory ammy, DFS w\ protect item or rune kite if your scared, snakeskin boots, ring of recoil, rune gloves or d hide vambs, 50 diamond\dragonfire bolts (e), venges + a prayer pot in inventory, +15% range, smite and\or defence prayer.

 

 

 

[hide=][/hide] 8-)

 

 

 

[hide=][/hide]

 

 

 

You win I give up. As long as the tank is from tif and has an iq of over 150 it will be a good tank.

 

 

 

It was fun but i dont want to dig my self into a deeper hole.

 

 

 

i dont see much use of ranting about it.

 

IQ of 150? That's like .0001% of the population. My IQ is below 150. The average IQ is 100, and that's fine for a range tank. What's there to know?

 

Its nothing its just that EVERYONE at tif is 6ft 1 and has an iq of 150

[Riptide Mage]

Since when is there a difference between a mage/range tank? There is just tanks, since your magic and ranged levels can be even w/o raising combat a single level (just look at the stats in my sig). There is no such thing as being over powered, certain builds beat other build, as it has always been, the triangle is no longer a triangle, but instead an interwoven web of different character builds that can be defeated by other character builds.

 

 

 

The only time you could say tanks were truely overpowered was rs1, when a level 25 could have 40 def and 80+ magic.