Skillers are they the future?

[doomy]

No, Runescape is, pretty much about the combat, almost all the skills are there for combat.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure thats the way it was originally meant to be.

 

 

 

Also I hate it when people think achieving somnething at level 3 or on f2p makes it better!

[Shadow_Clawe]

Eternal Dad is level 4, he raised a combat skill so I guess is no longer a "pure skiller."

 

 

 

And dooms, why do you hate it when people think achieving something at level 3 or f2p is bettter?

 

What is better to you - A fletching or slayer skillcape? Probably the slayer, because it took harder work to achieve or not as many people have it. Not much difference with level 3s or f2pers. Seeing a Level 3 with something like a mining cape would seem impressive to alot of players as not many level 3s have done it, or it was alot harder to work for it in that state.

[RuneyLew]

If i see a level 3 with 99 mining and a level 100 with 99 mining i think the same tbh as its just as easy as it is hard with a level 3 and a level 100 :?

[Shadow_Clawe]

If i see a level 3 with 99 mining and a level 100 with 99 mining i think the same tbh as its just as easy as it is hard with a level 3 and a level 100 :?

 

Granite mining in alkharid is best mining exp in the game, even better than iron. Level 3 cant do this because they cant get enchanted water tiara from Dealing with scabaras. So they usually have ro stick with iron all the way to 99, which means in most cases they have to work harder than combat players. And then of course, they also cant complete combat quests which give mining exp to cut down the training.

 

 

 

Okay fine runey, want a better example? Agility. With 1 defense and 10 hp is ten times harder, trust me. Also cant do ape atoll.

[RuneyLew]

 

Granite mining in alkharid is best mining exp in the game, even better than iron. Level 3 cant do this because they cant get enchanted water tiara from Dealing with scabaras. So they usually have ro stick with iron all the way to 99, which means in most cases they have to work harder than combat players. And then of course, they also cant complete combat quests which give mining exp to cut down the training.

 

 

 

Okay fine runey, want a better example? Agility. With 1 defense and 10 hp is ten times harder, trust me. Also cant do ape atoll.

 

 

 

Granite mining isn't that effected by enchanted water tiara because all you need to do is wear white items and around 5 water vials and a glory ammy, 5 water vial will last a hour maybe then all you need 2 do is tele 2 alkarid go bank stock up carpet back and run... takes 3mins i timed it.

 

 

 

Ape toll yes..

 

 

 

However your hp and defence doesn't effect it if you fail because the ammount of damage done is how much hp you have thats y most high levels hav the hp at 4+ because the damage is minimum :thumbsup:

[Shadow_Clawe]

 

Granite mining in alkharid is best mining exp in the game, even better than iron. Level 3 cant do this because they cant get enchanted water tiara from Dealing with scabaras. So they usually have ro stick with iron all the way to 99, which means in most cases they have to work harder than combat players. And then of course, they also cant complete combat quests which give mining exp to cut down the training.

 

 

 

Okay fine runey, want a better example? Agility. With 1 defense and 10 hp is ten times harder, trust me. Also cant do ape atoll.

 

 

 

Granite mining isn't that effected by enchanted water tiara because all you need to do is wear white items and around 5 water vials and a glory ammy, 5 water vial will last a hour maybe then all you need 2 do is tele 2 alkarid go bank stock up carpet back and run... takes 3mins i timed it.

 

 

 

Ape toll yes..

 

 

 

However your hp and defence doesn't effect it if you fail because the ammount of damage done is how much hp you have thats y most high levels hav the hp at 4+ because the damage is minimum :thumbsup:

 

In wildy course, best a level 3 can go to, there are level 24 skeletons which can deal up to 4 on you and revenants which can easily hit 10 on you. Which basically means you have to be constantly eating every time you fail an obstacle or run past the skeletons.

 

Unless you expect Level 3s to use brimhaven, which is almost twice as slow. Even the damage dealt there is greater for level 3s. Failing an obstacle there would usually hit around 3, except until you get around 4 hp left then you get hit 2. Which basically means you can die by 4 fails.

 

So at 10 hp, youll be hit a 3. At 99 hp, you wont be hit a 29! As far as ive seen it would probably be around 10, meaning you could make about 15 fails before dying. So imo, I dont see how def/hp would have zero effect on agility.

[RuneyLew]

some one with 99 hp wud hit around 17 thats y they get there hp to around 10 so it hits lower

 

 

 

10/99 hp hits the same as 10/10

[Shadow_Clawe]

Thats not what Im saying, there is a MUCH larger chance of death at 10hp than at 99, especially at wildy.

 

 

 

I find it pretty clear that agility is harder at level 3 than at 100. It confuses me that others dont :S

[RuneyLew]

Yes it is harder but not at like brim agility arena.

 

 

 

Ape Toll obv you cant go

 

Wildy best not to.

 

 

 

Agility arena is quick if you good and gloves -.-

[Shadow_Clawe]

Yes it is harder but not at like brim agility arena.

 

 

 

Ape Toll obv you cant go

 

Wildy best not to.

 

 

 

Agility arena is quick if you good and gloves -.-

 

Level 3 cant get Karamja gloves 2 or 3, which give the exp bonus, because they cant get to Crandor to complete the medium tasks. They can only get Gloves 1, which dont affect anything.

 

 

 

No matter how "good" they are, they can only get 1 ticket per minute, and assuming they collect 1k tickets, that would be 320k exp, which means around 19k exp for 60 tickets (an hours worth), plus 5k exp for the obstacles (being generous). Which would translate into around 24-25k exp per hour, assuming they get every single ticket and dont miss a pillar. Thats not much compared to the easy 60k per hour which can be made at ape atoll.

[Terraaer]

Yes but still why just have skils -.- if they love mining and smithing why just mine and smith ect why not get your combat up a bit do a few quests 2 unlock area's and skill there?????

 

 

 

all leads down to why no combat?

 

 

 

Because they may not like combat. They may find quests and combat un-enjoyable. If you don't like something, why do it?

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying they need to be level 138 with 277 quest points all they have to do is do a simple quest which requires to kill a level like 10 -.- then they could unlock hundreds more ways to train...

 

 

 

its obvious the reason they are so low isn't due to dont like to train the skills or do the quests because it takes 10mins to do quest and like a month to get wc or somut

 

 

 

Exactly.

 

 

 

Dont say you dont like combat. Even someone absolutely detests combat wouldent mind putting in a few minutes to get 10 att, str, def, pray for quests that offer better places to train. Your dont hate combat, you just want to be another super cool :? skiller with no experience in combat.

[Shadow_Clawe]

Okay..its not completely based on the fact they dont enjoy combat..even though most dont.

 

 

 

The whole point of skilling is to be really good at some skill or many skills while staying 3 combat. Thats what skilling is. This shoudnt be that hard to understnand, I shouldnt see any questions about it.

 

 

 

Now I can understand why you ask why they want to stay level 3? Trust me, I wish I could kill a few monsters and get my defense up for more effective training. Well, its a little hard to explain, but Ill try. When youre level 3, and you achieve something aready impressive, it feels like you conquered the world, because youve done it through all the obstacles, without any combat... It may not seem impressive to you but it does to alot of players, tbh when I see a level 3 with a smithing cape or so Im very impressed.

 

 

 

So anyways I hope this answers your question, I know youll abuse my response but I thought Id post it here anyways.

[Yomyth105]

the only reason i can see is that they want 99s at level three but that is just :roll:

 

 

 

i dont understand why not just skill on their mains?

 

 

 

and skillers are not taking over the world. pures are!

[RuneyLew]

Okay..its not completely based on the fact they dont enjoy combat..even though most dont.

 

 

 

The whole point of skilling is to be really good at some skill or many skills while staying 3 combat. Thats what skilling is. This shoudnt be that hard to understnand, I shouldnt see any questions about it.

 

 

 

Now I can understand why you ask why they want to stay level 3? Trust me, I wish I could kill a few monsters and get my defense up for more effective training. Well, its a little hard to explain, but Ill try. When youre level 3, and you achieve something aready impressive, it feels like you conquered the world, because youve done it through all the obstacles, without any combat... It may not seem impressive to you but it does to alot of players, tbh when I see a level 3 with a smithing cape or so Im very impressed.

 

 

 

So anyways I hope this answers your question, I know youll abuse my response but I thought Id post it here anyways.

 

 

 

I aint abusing u at all -.- ...

 

 

 

and tbh i'd proberly be more impressed with a level 50 with 99 smithing than a level 3 with 99 smithing, this proberly started off because people thought been level 3 makes people think there noob but then they show cape and they jelous but now they so common no 1 cares but a level 50 still has the fun because no many people are that level with 99 skills -.-

[Shadow_Clawe]

Okay..its not completely based on the fact they dont enjoy combat..even though most dont.

 

 

 

The whole point of skilling is to be really good at some skill or many skills while staying 3 combat. Thats what skilling is. This shoudnt be that hard to understnand, I shouldnt see any questions about it.

 

 

 

Now I can understand why you ask why they want to stay level 3? Trust me, I wish I could kill a few monsters and get my defense up for more effective training. Well, its a little hard to explain, but Ill try. When youre level 3, and you achieve something aready impressive, it feels like you conquered the world, because youve done it through all the obstacles, without any combat... It may not seem impressive to you but it does to alot of players, tbh when I see a level 3 with a smithing cape or so Im very impressed.

 

 

 

So anyways I hope this answers your question, I know youll abuse my response but I thought Id post it here anyways.

 

 

 

I aint abusing u at all -.- ...

 

 

 

and tbh i'd proberly be more impressed with a level 50 with 99 smithing than a level 3 with 99 smithing, this proberly started off because people thought been level 3 makes people think there noob but then they show cape and they jelous but now they so common no 1 cares but a level 50 still has the fun because no many people are that level with 99 skills -.-

 

*Sigh* youou cant even answer the whole big picture, so you take my example, a smithing cape, and make a whole post about that.. :-/

 

 

 

I didnt even get that whole post, it made no sense but there are always combat advantages for every skill, probably even firemaking and the other "buyables". Not necessarily the training, as firemaking is generally as easy training without combat, but Level 3s have so limited methods of earning money to buy all the supplies as combat players do. They can't kill for money or do other things like abyss nature crafting (Dont abuse this example..).

 

Tbh I really dont care if a Level 50 with a smithing cape is more "rare" than a Level 3 with one, I'm overall more impressed with which took more work. Level 50s have more options of money making to get the ores/bars than Level 3s do, thats why it's impressive to see a Level 3 with something like a santa hat, because it's alot harder to earn money at level 3 than with combat.

[RuneyLew]

Okay..its not completely based on the fact they dont enjoy combat..even though most dont.

 

 

 

The whole point of skilling is to be really good at some skill or many skills while staying 3 combat. Thats what skilling is. This shoudnt be that hard to understnand, I shouldnt see any questions about it.

 

 

 

Now I can understand why you ask why they want to stay level 3? Trust me, I wish I could kill a few monsters and get my defense up for more effective training. Well, its a little hard to explain, but Ill try. When youre level 3, and you achieve something aready impressive, it feels like you conquered the world, because youve done it through all the obstacles, without any combat... It may not seem impressive to you but it does to alot of players, tbh when I see a level 3 with a smithing cape or so Im very impressed.

 

 

 

So anyways I hope this answers your question, I know youll abuse my response but I thought Id post it here anyways.

 

 

 

I aint abusing u at all -.- ...

 

 

 

and tbh i'd proberly be more impressed with a level 50 with 99 smithing than a level 3 with 99 smithing, this proberly started off because people thought been level 3 makes people think there noob but then they show cape and they jelous but now they so common no 1 cares but a level 50 still has the fun because no many people are that level with 99 skills -.-

 

God how old are you? Ten?

 

 

 

And I knew you would do this, you cant even answer the whole big picture, so you take my example, a smithing cape, and make a whole post about that.

 

 

 

I didnt even get that whole post, it made no sense but there are always combat advantages for every skill, probably even firemaking and the other "buyables". Not necessarily the training, as firemaking is generally as easy training without combat, but Level 3s have so limited methods of earning money to buy all the supplies as combat players do. They can't kill for money or do other things like abyss nature crafting (Dont abuse this example..).

 

Tbh I really dont care if a Level 50 with a smithing cape is more "rare" than a Level 3 with one, I'm overall more impressed with which took more work. Level 50s have more options of money making to get the ores/bars than Level 3s do, thats why it's impressive to see a Level 3 with something like a santa hat, because it's alot harder to earn money at level 3 than with combat.

 

 

 

 

 

LOL making money by killing monsters for santa...combat money making died ages ago... (apart from like gw and tormented demons, which only realy high levels can do tbh). merching and skilling is the only good way to make money now days tbh (dont bloody say then thats y they skill because even with millions all they can do is buy a rare maybe and either skill more or stand around doing nothing -.-)

[Shadow_Clawe]

Yes this is partially true, but there are other good moneymakig ways than skilling or merching. Thats why the higher levels (Level 120s to 130s) generally have more money than Level 50s... #-o

 

 

 

Yes skilling does provide money but combat opens or eases up alot more options through skilling, like abyss runecrafting, rune wilderness mining, and slayer, just to name a few.

 

 

 

And your sentence - gwd which only high levels can do...

 

For one, your contradicting your argument, as you started it by saying something like:

 

"I wouldnt be any more impressed seeing a skillcape on a level 3 than a level 100.. It didnt take any more work"

 

 

 

And yes, alot of people do make money off killing, so dont say that doesnt give combat players any advantage.

 

 

 

Off subject:

 

By the way, didnt you say "Runescape was based on combat, so level 3s cant do anything but watch"?? Yes, you definately did. Now your saying they can make money jusf as well as combat players.

 

 

 

I definately belive Jagex made combat advantages, but they also made it so everyone can play the game and enjoy it, not just combat players.

[RuneyLew]

Off subject:

 

By the way, didnt you say "Runescape was based on combat, so level 3s cant do anything but watch"?? Yes, you definately did. Now your saying they can make money jusf as well as combat players.

 

 

 

I definately belive Jagex made combat advantages, but they also made it so everyone can play the game and enjoy it, not just combat players.

 

 

 

I know but our complete debate was off subject. my question was why do people make lvl 3 skillers because idc what fun they can get out after getting there 99s. what activities can they do and what can they spend there money on apart from rares... :|

 

 

 

Also lvl 120+ normal have more money than level 50s because they are experienced.

 

 

 

guarentied if you made them swap accounts the level 50 owner on lvl 120+ wud lose money becausse he wud buy stuff which isn't needed and proberly die yet the level 120+ owning on the level 50 wud make tons of money proberly because he knows what to do.

[Shadow_Clawe]

Off subject:

 

By the way, didnt you say "Runescape was based on combat, so level 3s cant do anything but watch"?? Yes, you definately did. Now your saying they can make money jusf as well as combat players.

 

 

 

I definately belive Jagex made combat advantages, but they also made it so everyone can play the game and enjoy it, not just combat players.

 

 

 

I know but our complete debate was off subject. my question was why do people make lvl 3 skillers because idc what fun they can get out after getting there 99s. what activities can they do and what can they spend there money on apart from rares... :|

 

 

 

Also lvl 120+ normal have more money than level 50s because they are experienced.

 

 

 

guarentied if you made them swap accounts the level 50 owner on lvl 120+ wud lose money becausse he wud buy stuff which isn't needed and proberly die yet the level 120+ owning on the level 50 wud make tons of money proberly because he knows what to do.

 

Okay, you asked what level 3s can do to enjoy rs and I thought I answered pretty well already, they can do every skill without combat which is like 15 skills? "After they get all their 99s..."

 

 

 

Wow its really going to take such a "short" time to get 99s for all noncombat skills, at level 3 no less. The only people who are even close are the ones who have been playing for several years.

 

 

 

Also your making completely no sense with all this, even the rares... :?

 

 

 

So level 3s have access to alot of things besides skills, like minigames and quests - Level 3 can get up to like 90 something quest pts... thats alot of quests. Also - minigames... vinesweeper, stealing creation, great orb project, just to name a few. If you think all the noncombat minigames "suck", then so be it. Thats your opinion, but you dont speak for the entirity of runescape, I must say I definately enjoy these minigames myself.

 

 

 

So Level 3s get all this, yet you say - "what more can they do or spend their money on besides rares after they got all their 99s..."

 

 

 

Hilarious. If your obviously excludimg minigames and quests (not to mention achievement diaries) from this blind question, why not just ask it to the whole combat runescape aswell? If your ignorantly saying all level 3s have are skills, then you could pretty much say that about everyone else.

 

 

 

Amd the "What do they spend their money on apart from rares." Well could you answer this question on behalf of combat players? If you have 99 everything already, you would probably not have much to spend on, but what would you (yes runeylew, you) spend all your money on if you maxed out? Whatever you say the level 3 answer would probably be similar: some way to show off your wealth or experience.

 

 

 

And no to the second part of your post, completely huge fat no.

 

 

 

WOW. Again, your contradicting a post you just made earlier today, saying something like "The only good money making ways are skills and merchanting, meaning its no harder for a Level 3 to make 100m than it is for a level 100..."

 

Yet you say, The level 120 is richer than the level 50, and if they swapped accounts the Level 120 would become rich on the low account, and the level 50 would become poor and die because he would waste the 120s money.. something of that sort, did you not?

 

And you said the Level 120 would make all the money on his acc and the "noob" acc because he was more experienced...

 

 

 

If your assuming someome, whos played this game for a while, can go onto a "new" account, or one with no skills or no money (as indicated by you, the level 50 who dies and wastes any money he does have) and just spontaneously start making "tons of money" just because he's "experienced", your dead wrong.

 

 

 

Just because you "know how" to make money doesnt give you the ability to. You still need high skills which you may not have, or if your talking about merching, you can know how to merch but not be able to effectively do it, because you need merching money to make merching money which you may not have.

[RuneyLew]

Rofl 6 year old you must just have a IQ of like 10 and don't look at things from several views [wagon]...

 

 

 

One.. you make money from your noobing rs xp not skills... skill money is petty money... probably make tops 50 mil a year from skills when a experienced player who knows where the money is could start off say making a few 100k at level 3 in the first day and 10mil in a week (don't say "lmao no one can make that money" cuz u can easy make that money), i just started a pure a few days ago, already made 4mil in around 7 days with 148 total -.-. so your probably just a wanna be rich skiller tbh who knows nothing about rs what so ever... "level 3s can get around 90qp... woopy do... that will last a grand total of a week?... i have a quest cape i know all about quests... level 3 can probably get 130+ qp tbh and there all the super easy ones which mostly dont require skills any way because almost all quests either require combat, combat and skills and a few with just skills... and for the mini games... they suck in my opinion obv but they are like 5 which are non combat and you could play them over and over for your rs life... wow fun.

 

 

 

bulls**t... if your in primary English lessons(which you probably are) you might of heard of exaggeration in me talking about all combat stats this was just a noobin metaphor suggesting the level 3s with there 99 skills... (if your dumb and don't understand that... then you really are super dumb...)

 

 

 

So don't answer to this... unless you want to prove that your immature and purposely starting a boring debate in my thread which i didn't ask for i simply wanted a answer then you to p**s off...

 

 

 

Go Die Slowly

 

 

 

Runey_Lew

[Shadow_Clawe]

Okay Im ending this very unfair :o argument right here.

 

 

 

skillers are they the future?

 

Yes they are the future. If you ask them they'd probably (not proberly) take my side of that dumb debate. They're almost everywhere, becoming more popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S.

 

Go Die Slowly

 

Okay now who's the one being immature...

[Everyonedies]

lvl 3 skillers exist simply because in their minds they think because its harder to level skills at level 3 combat it makes them "cooler, better then those with combat, feel good about themselves, gets their name noticed, brings them attention, lets them get E pone, lets them sleep at night, enjoy themselves, or bust a nut over a 99 when they get it at lvl 3." That in nutshell is why they do it.

[AgentEarl]

Even though I'm not a low level skiller and stuff I do like the non combat skills a lot better. I wish I would have just been a skilled to be honest. Once I hit 90 combat lvl I'll prob stop combat for a really long time to focus on just skills. It's a lot more fun to me.

 

 

 

Oh and btw, I agree with shadow clawe :)

[Euqh]

lvl 3 skillers exist simply because in their minds they think because its harder to level skills at level 3 combat it makes them "cooler, better then those with combat, feel good about themselves, gets their name noticed, brings them attention, lets them get E pone, lets them sleep at night, enjoy themselves, or bust a nut over a 99 when they get it at lvl 3." That in nutshell is why they do it.

 

 

 

That was completely wrong, Not all skillers are like that. I've seen alot of skillers that are very relaxed/calm and interesting people to talk to. I for one made an account Recently (Euqh) which is developing into a skiller, and the reason for me trying this is because it brings a new challenge that i haven't faced before and my Main is getting boring (done all types of monster hunting and its extremely boring afterawhile, also achieving 1852 Castle wars tickets isnt so exciting either).

 

I've made many types of other accounts. I have had i think a total of 20+ Pures made, 3 Skillers, 2 Tanks.

 

 

 

Also to those other people who hate skillers and think there conceited, they really arent dont judge a book by its cover. jeez >_>

[RosettaStoned]

My original plan was to be a skiller...then I got bored and decided killing stuff is pretty fun.

 

Now my combat is a puny 24, but my skills are decent, I'd say.