oh you know EXACTLY what i'm talking about. the weapon that's about as fast as a shortbow using longranged but about as slow as slitting your wrists.

 

they are rubbish! i hate it! whenever i get a dragon task i'm forciblly fed this junk that barely hits and takes forever to throw. it wouldn't be so bad if there was a demand for them, but even for rune, you might as well just throw it down a well.

 

 

 

there's a lot of weapons that have a dragon alternetive but i think we can cool it with javelins.

 

i didn't expect dragon claws to be so popular, or d2h.

 

 

 

the spears. oh bloody hell the spears. if they weren't essential in about 2-3 quests (and a fally diary) i'd like to say that no one uses them. they are the apitamy of bad ideas. all it really is, is a metal tip on a wooden pole. if you heard about this new weapon when it was released i bet your reaction was not: no wai dewd :shock: . now the dragon spear is.... good? i don't know because i don't have one. i've seen.... 3? maybe 4? in my years of playing (august 05) i can't say in an honest fashion that spears have been essential towards people progressing in runescape. it's just something uncomprehendable as too why.... they exist? they were thought of? just.... wow.

 

 

 

 

 

i'd rather get a 3k coin drop than a dragon spear. chances are i'd alch anything with [spear] in it.

The D spear has its uses. Javelins, however, should be removed from the drop tables of all NPCs.

isn't the zamorak spear supposed to be worth it? For monsters like waterfiends.

Rune javs alch for like 380 each ;)

They do, thats true. But bronze javs? and iron javs? These are completely useless items. One the fastest way to train range is knives. And javelins are slow, and weak (compard to c'bows of the same level). Doesnt this make them pretty much useless.

 

 

 

 

 

They're also one of the most expensive 1 shot weapons (compared to knives, arrows, bolts etc.)

So is every melee weapon besides scimitar. You can't have a bunch of weapons that are all the 'best' without totally redoing the combat system.

well i'd go on about sledgehammers, but they have yet to have a dragon update towards them so it's a "wait and see".

 

 

 

the dragon long/rune long and dragon scimitar/rune scimitar are based upon preference and if you wanted to a quest to get it or not.

 

 

 

i found heroes to be easier than monkey madness so if i didn't have that dragon long, i'd honestly say i'd be set back about 4 melee levels.

 

 

 

occasionally you'll find some one that uses a longbow (like the darkbow, or perhaps in fletching), or finds salamanders the most essential item in their arsenal (some quests require different combat types at different times like ranged and mage).

 

 

 

what i'm getting at is, no one uses javelins. they are a members weapon and you were exposed to the shortbow before any other type of ranged weapon (unless the first quest you do changed it) and it is of the best selections to have when using/training ranged.

 

 

 

i would have gone so far as to say the same things about claws (although they aren't in the drop tables of nearly all monsters) but they dragon variety came out and it turned out to be the most expensive and sought after dragon weapon in the game. right now i don't think that even a dragon update could make the javels come to [any] glory at all. they were never in a glorious spotlight and because of that players will just look the other way with them and not even request they be turned into dragon.

isn't the zamorak spear supposed to be worth it? For monsters like waterfiends.

It's useful for a select few monsters, that's true. But Jagex botched it. If it could be poisoned and if they hadn't just recycled the Dragon Spear's special, maybe by giving it one comparable to the saradomin sword, than it would be far more useful. At least that's what I think.

 

the dragon long/rune long and dragon scimitar/rune scimitar are based upon preference and if you wanted to a quest to get it or not.

 

 

 

They aren't preference based. Scimitar beats longsword, period. Non negotiable.

I don't think they should make them powerful but they should make them at least comparable to darts or knives. :|

Well morrigan's javelins I know are pretty deadly for PKing. Otherwise javelins are pretty much a defunct item.

 

Zamorak spear is a very useful weapon, why do you think it comes at a 1,000,000+ GP price task? Arguably the best item to use at waterfiends and corporeal beast, at the speed of a whip.

warhammers, square shields, darts (maybe not dragon), short swords, claws but dragon, long bows, magic staffs ALL SUCK. + med helms.

It's worth picking up javelins because you can sell them to the shop on the Void Knight Outpost for a good price. I think it's ~100gp for rune and ~60gp for addy (not sure of those prices), at it's very lowest. A potential 3k drop from steel or black dragons, easily worth picking up.

i'm not going to go on about longsword or scimitar because that was for sake of example. all i'll say is that the stats are different and the longsword is slightly better but it's slower. the special is also used 4 times comparable to the scimitar of being used once. it's debatable which is faster, but i own a saradomin sword so i just kinda moved on from that discussion.

 

 

 

the zamorak spear is basically a jacked up version of the dragon spear. it has the same special and pales in comparison to the godsword (pretty much everything does though). if i were to make some stunned wouldn't using a snare spell and then moving away work just as well? how about an ice barrage/blitz? all i'm saying is that the special is junk, the stats are not as good as saradomin sword (close but no cigar, hence why it's 6m cheaper) or even the abbysial whip (dirt cheap now). once again, it's a weapon that will probably get buried over time because it's.... junk. i'm starting to sound like a broken record player but the zamorak spear (which i didn't even know existed before i started this thread because it was so unpopular and not used. i researched it don't worry) has no value that is so enormous that it's quintessential that is existing in runescape.

 

 

 

my friend for some reason wanted every dragon piece in the game. so he bought everything except the claws, plate, chain, and the full helmet. he was a little low on cash and he was asking me and a friend (we were in clan chat) on what to get rid of. first thing me and his friend said was: dragon 2h and dragon spear. i've come across multiple people that just sigh to themselves whenever they receive a javelin drop. they're not too worried about spears because they are alchable.

 

 

 

come on now. how many of you used your rune kp spear after completing that quest? chances are you alched it or sold it. usually the rune version of items can be salvaged in some way (scimitars, swords, armor) but it's not the case with spears.

 

 

 

why they're members only confuses the hell out of me too. i never once found myself thankful i was a member because then, i wouldn't have myself a spear or javelin.

Javelin to shortbow is like scimitar to warhammer.

 

 

 

It just dosent work.

You don't have to pick them up. But they do stack, so...

 

 

 

I just use my daily 30 alch charges from my Explorers Ring to get rid of them. I don't think they are worth using a Nature Rune on myself. You may find this a waste of time. But I thought it might be an idea since it obviously grinds your gears enough to post about it here.

Rune javs alch for like 380 each ;)

 

 

 

394 is the correct answer

 

 

 

better to use them as junk though or unless you need the mage exp alch them for profit

 

 

 

dragon spear-obviously you haven't been to castle wars

too many weps in rs are underpowered. and btw, pureprayer, the mace sucks like sht too. it probably was so lousy that you forgot it.

 

 

 

why doesnt jagex redo the combat system? its an epic fail right now, with too many weps overpowered and even more underpowered and obsolete.

 

 

 

P.S. is it ok to "advertise" my thread here? its about unused rs weps and its called "crushing and stabbing weps never used".

Making the javelins faster, or giving them some special property would probably partially mend the problem.

 

 

 

For example, give the javs an "armor-piercing" effect, like the diamond-tipped bolts. Think about it, a javelin is pretty heavy, it's like a mini-spear. It should be able to, if thrown, pierce most obstacles, including armor.

send all javalins but rune down to f2p and i would buy them...tired of just training on arrows and bolts...want something new

 

the dragon long/rune long and dragon scimitar/rune scimitar are based upon preference and if you wanted to a quest to get it or not.

 

 

 

They aren't preference based. Scimitar beats longsword, period. Non negotiable.

 

Stab.

 

 

 

As for Spears... They are great, Jagex just ... 'balanced' them with subpar stats and near useless specials. Javelins, however, I'd like a word with the programmer of 'em...

as for the programmers of maces,warhammers, shortswords, longswords, etc i would like to...... him

 

 

 

for the scimitars and whip programmers, nerf your stupid weps!!! since when was a heavy sword as fast as a light dagger... what the hell....

 

 

 

If jagex thinks they can make weps like claws useful just by making a dumb wep with a good spec, they're wrong. everyone will just walk around with claws, spec someone, get a scim and finish him off, before he has a chance to eat because of the incredibly fast speed of this two weps.