Ryan Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Alright, go to every prison and tell the 5,000 people there what they did was wrong. They aren't going to agree with you. Good logic :roll: Have you or have not sold a sig containing a copyrighted image for runescape gp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivi_Pk Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 no.. thats dumb.. i dont need gp rofl plus the i just looked on some companies websites and the screen shots i looked at had no copyrighted anywheres on the image.. so the only things they put it on would be the wallpaper which only contains the name of the game/movie/whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Tons of people murder/rape/steal every day. Is it right? no. and please , before you learn a thing about the program stop trying to make lame jokes on how easy it is. Like I said before, yours are just the crap of the crap in terragen. The program is more complicated and has a hell of a lot more to do than just "pressing random buttons". and EDIT: you don't know this, but you don't need to have a big copyright sign on something to say it's copyrighted. To an extent even little sigs such as I or other's do are copyrighted by the author. If you look at a lot of art sites, people don't "copyright" their stuff, because it is already known that it is. The final point of the matter is this: - Will you get in trouble with the law for doing this? no, not for sigs. No one gets in trouble for it. However, Like many things are, it's simply a courtasy to not take one's artwork without asking for permission first. It still is "against the law" however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quer_Skulll Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 care for me to interrupt here.. well let me warn you first; my comments might sound a bit harsh and sometimes over the edge however it is in what ever way you interpret it. vivi you can not deny that it is wrong whatever excuse you make pointing your finger and "they do it to" isnt going to make it any better. for "thousands" of so called "gfx sites" who do it to really big things start small not to mention go to the GOOD art sites.. you dont see anyone doing what you do, check cgtalk, DA and concept art i believe. if one is not good enough to fill that space where the image is with there own art and creativity then i ask you this, why even bother making "art" if you can't do it without the help of others, if your not willing to stand above that and go solo? why? why? as for the terragen, Nadril makes his own.. so do you.. whats the point? to get at the level Nadril is with terragens is a good achievement (you still have your flaws tho) and your not quite close yet.. so what are you trying to get at here? if it looks plain without a stolen image on it.. stand above that, improve, fill up your space with your own blood, sweat and tears dont rape those 3D artists up the arse "thank you for your hard work on that 3D model ill just steal it from you now so i wont have to work!" if it came out harse i cant really say im actually sorry because im not.. but im sorry even if i dont mean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 care for me to interrupt here.. well let me warn you first; my comments might sound a bit harsh and sometimes over the edge however it is in what ever way you interpret it. vivi you can not deny that it is wrong whatever excuse you make pointing your finger and "they do it to" isnt going to make it any better. for "thousands" of so called "gfx sites" who do it to really big things start small not to mention go to the GOOD art sites.. you dont see anyone doing what you do, check cgtalk, DA and concept art i believe. if one is not good enough to fill that space where the image is with there own art and creativity then i ask you this, why even bother making "art" if you can't do it without the help of others, if your not willing to stand above that and go solo? why? why? as for the terragen, Nadril makes his own.. so do you.. whats the point? to get at the level Nadril is with terragens is a good achievement (you still have your flaws tho) and your not quite close yet.. so what are you trying to get at here? if it looks plain without a stolen image on it.. stand above that, improve, fill up your space with your own blood, sweat and tears dont * those 3D artists up the arse "thank you for your hard work on that 3D model ill just steal it from you now so i wont have to work!" if it came out harse i cant really say im actually sorry because im not.. but im sorry even if i dont mean it. Incredibly well said man, incredibly well said. Kind of what I wanted to say and have been trying to tell people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD77 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Mods should made an sticky saying no stolen render lol and mods plz lock cause every1 know Nad is right lol he fights here 24/7 for the stolen renders lol. mods plz make a sticky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfp221 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 also. its like a walking advertisment for them anyways, so why would they want to do anything to stop it? But if your advertisement sucks then it doesn't help the company, it hurts them. I would put an advertisement in the movie Motorcross (it got a 2% on rottentomatoe) because someone might see it and think, "Wow if this is the best place that company could get their product advertised it must be a bad product." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NACHO Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Alright, go to every prison and tell the 5,000 people there what they did was wrong. They aren't going to agree with you. Good logic :roll: i don't agree with arguing over renders, but damn. you just got owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NACHO Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Mods should made an sticky saying no stolen render lol and mods plz lock cause every1 know Nad is right lol he fights here 24/7 for the stolen renders lol. mods plz make a sticky. no, i don't think he is right. I'm a bit different than the other people who disagree with him, because i don't try to shoot down anyones opinions or make myself look like an [wagon]. People seem unable to express their opinion without flaming, and that's what results in topics like this. But for me, i'm not going to argue either way. Nothing good will become of it so I will just keep to myself after this post/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quer_Skulll Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 care for me to interrupt here.. well let me warn you first; my comments might sound a bit harsh and sometimes over the edge however it is in what ever way you interpret it. vivi you can not deny that it is wrong whatever excuse you make pointing your finger and "they do it to" isnt going to make it any better. for "thousands" of so called "gfx sites" who do it to really big things start small not to mention go to the GOOD art sites.. you dont see anyone doing what you do, check cgtalk, DA and concept art i believe. if one is not good enough to fill that space where the image is with there own art and creativity then i ask you this, why even bother making "art" if you can't do it without the help of others, if your not willing to stand above that and go solo? why? why? as for the terragen, Nadril makes his own.. so do you.. whats the point? to get at the level Nadril is with terragens is a good achievement (you still have your flaws tho) and your not quite close yet.. so what are you trying to get at here? if it looks plain without a stolen image on it.. stand above that, improve, fill up your space with your own blood, sweat and tears dont * those 3D artists up the arse "thank you for your hard work on that 3D model ill just steal it from you now so i wont have to work!" if it came out harse i cant really say im actually sorry because im not.. but im sorry even if i dont mean it. Incredibly well said man, incredibly well said. Kind of what I wanted to say and have been trying to tell people. thank you :oops: you did quite a good job at discussing to :D and for four pages :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 First, I'm going to try and clear up some these terms. Stolen: To take without right or permission. Similar terms (in this context) would be "Ripped" or "Plagiarised". I'm guessing you havn't earned yourself permission to use these graphics in your own work. Plagiarism: To use and pass off (the ideas or writings of another) as one's own. Even if an image is not copyrighted and you "rip" it, you would have still stolen it. This is illegal nearly world-wide, and you could be fined/arrested if the original author decided to take actions against you. I: This is, generally, the term we use to refer to ones self. For example, if I was to say, "I've made these sigs," it would be insinuating that I made the sigs. Another handy tip; "I" is always capitalized. :wink: So simply put, you have stolen somebody elses artwork and claimed it as your own. If you havn't already come to the same conclusion I have; you've just plagiarized. -- these are game renders provided by the company for us to use. Alright, secondly, this is very rarely true. Stock photography (or graphics) are free to use, and are not copyrighted. These "renders" you have chosen, much like those of Master Chief or Mario, have been copyrighted, meaning they are not intended for anyone but those who have the rights to them. -- And lastly, you should also note that using renders is considered a shameful thing to do to most artists (well, that is to say those artists more advanced than sigs). Plagiarism laws are not often enforced, especially by the more common render-artwork, but you should have enough respect (and skill, hopefully) to make art by yourself, instead of having to resort to somebody elses artwork. The least you could do though, if you included renders, is to make backgrounds more than just abstract 'grunge'. These, especially with pre-made grunge brushes, do not take much skill and very rarely look professional. :| Good-day to you, I hope to see more artwork from you in the future and less 'render-sigs'. :) I'm also sorry if I came off a bit harsh, I think we're all just trying to illustrate the fact that doing this is bad, and won't get you very far in the world of digital art (or sigmaking, for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terley Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 geez, im neva gettin on your bad side venomai :lol: .. well explained, and very much straight to the point. You see as you posted that everyone stopped posting random points of view and pointless arguements, that funneh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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